Marketplace Mafia II - Game Over

[greygnarl]

Don't we get Oracle in advertising already as long as scum doesn't put more money on it?

[callforjudgement]

@greygnarl: Yes, we do. If we want to be sure of getting it, we should top it up by a random unknown amount after the second update so that scum have to guess how much to advertise to beat us out. Otherwise, we can advertise Watcher for $1 less to set up tomorrow's advertisement.

[greygnarl]

I say Doctor>Watcher.

[callforjudgement]

@greygnarl: Doctor, if you correctly predict the nightkill, means you save one townie.
Watcher, if you correctly predict the nightkill, means you

catch one scum

.

I think pretty much everyone (except the scum) prefers the second result. Townies should always be willing to 1-for-1 trade with the scum, barring very unusual circumstances. So Watcher is pretty much strictly better, unless Doctor is needed to prevent a loss after a mislynch in lylo or something like that. (In which case, scum would just kill the Doctor to make sure.)

[callforjudgement]

EBWOP: I meant a mislynch in mylo.

[Voidedmafia]

Oh, FFS.

I am not reading over nearly 10 PAGES that you managed to eke out in 4 GODDAMN HOURS.

Smoeone just give me cliff notes, please.

[SlumberPartyBois]

"we like to post" - vengaboys

[Malakittens]

Alright if he's going to actually kill me then here are my notes: (Just updated for today)

GreyICE claims insane knowledge of the setup. Everyone thinks he is scum Seems like he is town I guess doesn’t read thread closely

Gentlemen have devised a huge amount of strategy. Likely town More town. Thinks GreyICE null

slumberbois are making some good points but are acting kind of weird. It seems like they are trying to play up a bunch of angles. They pressured BB but then said he was just a troll. Really weird. Are saying to kill MoI becaause he’s hard to lynch? trying to sow some paranoia about. Wants to keep double vote in play? TOWN Matt suspects me pretty much because he got me last game

Sala Obv town vote switching doesn’t give a fuck, had a really bad plan, got butthurt, still town

MoI just fucking slipped big time. If he confirmed then he would have to have that thing there

Pitty is town based on Piggy’s meta from JK9 of course I don’t know her scum meta so I’m not reallty sure

molla looks town for trying to draw the NK if scum has it Actually made the kill. Maybe is a suvivor/sk cuz he’s hard buddying SPB by agreeing to shoot me

Defender derps hardcore doing same thing as MoI lynchable for other scumtells too.

Peregrine pressuring Pitty for what again? Really confused/scum Claims Oracle really late. Was making it really hard to understand but when I gave the clarification idea he latched on immdeditaely

guille does nothing not sure, really giving nothing to work with

Tammy is the most logical player in the game probs town but maybe biased because hse is agreeing with me

Mehdi keeps on top of all the abilities+obvtown

phil becomes so much more protown when pressured. Possible scum possible doesn’t give a fuck about hte game possible not enough free time

I'd like to lynch Sean and then shoot Peregrine. Or Phil. Or Pitty.

I'd love to know how the hell you went from calling us town in that post based on Pitty's meta to saying that you will be okay with shooting us in the start of Day 3.

What changed your read?

I'm aware that I wasn't really posting at all during Day 1. I got hit by the hurricane and Piggy took control of the posts and now that my life is back to normal again I'm more active and have time to reread what I missed.

[Mehdi2277]

Deas didn't target me, current lynch interests lean towards sean (although primarily just for guille confirmation right now), PV, deas somewhat, philla, and tazaro (although this is more of a good cop target list, but it works lynch wise too). Plan went well besides deas's blunder and all powers went where desired (ex: grey has the nk, and tammy is the new neighborizer). Grey's nk will be directed by town reads but no one else (although they can talk if desired though) Sean investigated cfj (the guy with the GF ability) and got innocent. Personal lean says PV works best lynch wise today.

More set up discussion now on what to advertise, the fact that 3rd parties aren't caught by cops makes molla unlikely 3rd party.

That about covers it.

[PeregrineV]

I won market watcher n1. As of the end of last night, excluding transferred or invested, and after all of the money actions have taken place, there is $2222 in the game.

Whoever made up the day2 list, listed me twice, so I sent half to Voided and have to N/Sala. They should receive the same amounts.

I received money from Voided last night. It probably matches whatever he claimed, but I'll have to go look again.

DV replaced Eidelon, so anyone calling him scum now when he was town before is probably scum.

[Mehdi2277]

Or new actions affected things (such as neighborizer use).

[PeregrineV]

He never said, but was $187 received.

[PeregrineV]

Or new actions affected things (such as neighborizer use).

So the fact he neighborized Seanald means he's scum now?

[DeasVail]

So the fact he neighborized Seanald means he's scum now?

Apparently...

[PeregrineV]

@Seanald- I'd like to hear more about the "why" you investigated CFJ. Detail your thought processes as it moved from Elmo to CFJ, especially in relation to his play after replacing in, and why all the other players who did NOT have "investigation Immune" were not better choices.

[PeregrineV]

So the fact he neighborized Seanald means he's scum now?

Apparently...

Since you're here, please claim, since your slot already has.

[Seanald]

read my iso dude, already explained it

[N]

Okay, I have read (most of) the thread, but I'm an idiot. I knew I was supposed to bid on oracle, and originally tried to bid all my money on it. But then I though, "wait, I might want to invest some of this" and cancelled my bid to ask Magua a question. Magua wasn't online before I went to bed and I slept in today and my money's all sitting there not being used at all. This does mean that at least two other people bid on oracle, because I never did and it went for $4. (Sorry!)

Also, I received some money transferred, but I don't know who from.

Stupid? or saved a whole day not wasting on connections between CFJ and Elmo?

Of course there are connections between Elmo and cfj; they're the same slot.

[Magua]

Vote Count 3.1

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Seanald (1): Tazaro

Not Voting (15): BBmolla, callforjudgement, Guille2015, VoidedMafia, SlumberPartyBois, Pitty, StefanB, DeasVail, PeregrineV, greygnarl, Seanald, Phillammon, Tammy, N, Mehdi2277

Deadline is December 3rd, at 5:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2012-12-03 17:00:00)

Qt was made november 19th 2012
4:18 pm ET.

This post strays too close for my comfort to the "don't quote mod communication" rules. Kindly paraphrase more in the future.

Finally, if everyone could take a moment before you post to make sure you are not alt-posting/posting outside of the hydra when relevant, it would be vastly appreciated.

[Voidedmafia]

Deas didn't target me, current lynch interests lean towards sean (although primarily just for guille confirmation right now), PV, deas somewhat, philla, and tazaro (although this is more of a good cop target list, but it works lynch wise too). Plan went well besides deas's blunder and all powers went where desired (ex: grey has the nk, and tammy is the new neighborizer). Grey's nk will be directed by town reads but no one else (although they can talk if desired though) Sean investigated cfj (the guy with the GF ability) and got innocent. Personal lean says PV works best lynch wise today.

More set up discussion now on what to advertise, the fact that 3rd parties aren't caught by cops makes molla unlikely 3rd party.

That about covers it.

Thank you, Mehdi. (SLUMBER, STOP POSTING SO GODDAMN MUCH!)

As for advertising, why not advertise watcher next?

In regards to Sean, we have 2 conftowns until proven otherwise? Okay. Really wish he went for someone like Tazaro or something instead of CFJ, but confirmation of the town feelings I had on him is always nice.

PV: I was supposed to send $196, and that's what I sent. $187 does sound correct since it rounds down.

Not exactly feeling a PV lynch today. If we don't lynch Seanald, I think I'd rather go for DV (already wanted Eid dead, so) or Tazaro (feels more iffy to me than PV does, his wrongful spat with Mehdi notwithstanding).

N: ...why...?

[PeregrineV]

to clear up the elmo thing, considering he was the leading wagon for a good while an investigate on him would stop a myslynch or tell us we were on the right track.

Yeah, but I'm making the assumption you had more thought put into it. Was there?

[Mehdi2277]

Actually cfj isn't confirmed town. Cfj is the guy with investigation immunity and that's why it was such a stupid move.

How is cancelling bids possible? That and I thought it was advertise oracle.

[N]

Actually cfj isn't confirmed town. Cfj is the guy with investigation immunity and that's why it was such a stupid move.

How is cancelling bids possible? That and I thought it was advertise oracle.

I edited my PM to Magua and crossed it out before he'd read it.

[N]

Also, you're right; it was accountant I was supposed to bit on.

[N]

Everything else I said is still okay; I just got the terms 'accountant' and 'oracle' mixed up; not sure why.