A Dance with Dragons Mafia: A New Dawn!

[BBmolla]

I don't understand why you're yelling at me now when I'm actually doing shit.

[Eddard Stark]

Day 7, Votecount 7

Thor665 (4) - kortul, Zdenek, Minimum, BBmolla

kortul (2) - Magua, AurorusVox
Zdenek (1) - Thor665

Not Voting (1):

Pandora

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: 27th November at 14:30pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-11-27 10:30:47)

[Thor665]

That'd be an ass hole move.

"Need replacement for 163 page game"

^That Smurf don't fly all that well.

Save the lecture for post game.

I looked - you've been asking people to let you sheep them since before I replaced in.
You've been claiming no real reads since basically after the Feysal lynch.
Seems like you could have ducked and covered earlier, yeah?

I don't understand why you're yelling at me now when I'm actually doing Smurf.

Like what?

[BBmolla]

Pretty sure Faraday is going to blacklist me after this for prodding me so much.

Here's where I stand at the moment.

I can't read Thor. I can't. His attitude and personality just gets in my way for reading him. I thought Jal was scum, but I haven't seen anything crazy scummy in Thor's play. But then again, it's Thor.

I had a gut scum on Kortul and I can't for the life of me understand why. I just can't.

Everyone else is more or less lurking town.

I'll probably end up switching to Thor in the next few days.

Nah I'll do it now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Thor

For some reason when I wrote this down I realized how silly it was for me to think Thor made the slot townier when I know fully well I can't read him for shit.

I don't do smurfs bro that aint me, thanks though.

[Eddard Stark]

Prodding AurorusVox

[Thor665]

You're basically saying 'everyone is town, i have no read on Thor, so I'll quietly shuffle into the Thor vote'
Earlier when I said Thor made the slot better...I was wrong. ::shrug::

You see that as helpful to town?

[BBmolla]

I see voting someone who I can't read when I thought the predecessor was scummy as pro-town, yes.

[Thor665]

You have likely 3 scum out there and are voting for a slot that you forgot was scummy - that's gakked up.

[Magua]

Thor, I'mma lynch you at deadline, so how about helping me get kortul lynched before that has to happen?

[Thor665]

I think Kortul is likely town and town is less tunneled on him than me - I'm the smarter bet at that point because you're all twits.

[Magua]

I have a problem with you buying that kortul is town.

You say that you liked what Zdenek said about kortul and that made you re-evaluate kortul as town. But while Zdenek goes on about how kortul likely isn't Aegon, his "kortul isn't Stannis" argument is limited to "Stannis wouldn't vote Thor" and that's it. Coming from Zdenek-who-is-your-biggest-scumread, your reversal in response to this is...strange.

Secondly, although I'm a huge fan of looking back to D1 with a whole bunch of flips to see what's what, I've had to abandon that here because that PoE leads to either you being the only Stannis, or you+Zdenek being Stannis, and both of those are lolwtf (BBmolla and AurorusVox seem pretty clear non-Stannis due to role, Minimum, Pandora and kortul all spent the majority of D1 on the DCLXVI choose wagon, leaves you and Zdenek).

So, again, basing kortul-defense on D1 play that PoEs out too many suspects seems...less than useful.

[Thor665]

I have a problem with you buying that kortul is town.

Sure, why not, everyone has a problem with everything I say in this game.

You say that you liked what Zdenek said about kortul and that made you re-evaluate kortul as town. But while Zdenek goes on about how kortul likely isn't Aegon, his "kortul isn't Stannis" argument is limited to "Stannis wouldn't vote Thor" and that's it. Coming from Zdenek-who-is-your-biggest-scumread, your reversal in response to this is...strange.

It's actually about the way he voted me.
Also, all things considered, I think that's actually a pretty good example of how Zednek is scum.
But, yeah, I don't think Stannis would make that move on me like he did. What was the gain to roll in, vote me, and then pop switch to Anx? Anx would have meant nothing to him, and he could have avoided the dance. He didn't.

So, again, basing kortul-defense on D1 play that PoEs out too many suspects seems...less than useful.

Okay...
Of course, it depends on who was doing what and how - you're supposed to make value calls about what does or doesn't look like a bus last I checked.

[AurorusVox]

Thor, I'mma lynch you at deadline, so how about helping me get kortul lynched before that has to happen?

I like this guy.

I am tempted to apathy hammer Thor but will hold off while the possibility of a Kortul lynch is still around.

[kortul]

Anyway, I thought I was on at least page 35 and got disheartened when it was only page 13. But I thought fuck it, I'm satisfied with my reads on Minimum, Tyene and BBM. So instead of reading the start of the game with all those extra players and posts, I decided to focus on ISOing the players who I hadn't read the first time around or was not satisfied with.

That leaves Pandora, Thor and Zdenek to do.

AV

, so who do you think is scum, and who is town, and why? Last time you talked about the reads 3 weeks ago, and even then you said you are satisfied with some of them and promised to work on the rest.

[AurorusVox]

Pandora is probably also scum.
We'll lynch YOU first though.

[Minimum]

How bad at scum are you approximately, AV?

[Zdenek]

Hammer hammer
Bo bammer
Fee fie fo fammer
Hammer

prod-dodge.

[Eddard Stark]

Prodding Pandora

[Pandora]

prod dodge
Actually I remember someone asked me a question but I can't remember who so if someone wants something from me restate plz

[Eddard Stark]

Prodding BBmolla

[Eddard Stark]

Day 7, Votecount 8

Thor665 (4) - kortul, Zdenek, Minimum, BBmolla

kortul (2) - Magua, AurorusVox
Zdenek (1) - Thor665

Not Voting (1):

Pandora

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: 27th November at 14:30pm Ireland time. (GMT+1)

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-11-27 10:30:47)

[Thor665]

For the record, I just want to note the following;

1. There has never been a real case on me.
2. Zdenek needs attention.
3. BBMolla is obv. active lurking and also needs attention.
4. Though I like you all (moreso the ones who are scum and doing this) you are all terrible

Just throwing that out there.

[BBmolla]

Active lurking? Kid I'm on this damned page, look at the top. There is just nothing going on.

[AurorusVox]

Thor vote Kortul. And stop calling BBM scum or

I'll

hammer you.

Minimum I used to be good but I haven't pulled scum in a long time and I think I got lynched last time.

[kortul]

Finished rereading Magua. Based on his play on previous days i still think he is more likely to be town, for the reasons i explained during previous day. But his play today is off and ruins the picture. I can buy two emotional outbursts, after which i became a strong scum read, but have hard time understanding his play afterwards - wagon on a strong scum read is falling apart, and he is content on just sitting, with a weak attempt to pull just one player, who was there already? Still, that means they are unlikely to be partners with Thor.

@Magua

, i also have some questions after reread.

Going to be offline for the next few hours, and still working on the Aegon side of things

Did you finish this research?

At this point, highest person I want to lynch is 4nxiety. Don't like mockingjaye's play from D1; there's jumps, especially around the StefanB wagon at the end of the Day, that don't feel right, especially given mockingjaye having been in previous Eddard Stark games and knowing how they go.

You voted 4nx even before Plum/Nacho presented their reads, and that is good. But the explanation behind this switch is not consistent with your earlier views on mockingjaye's play:

Null

4nxi3ty

- Not seeing mockingjaye hate. ISO is just big huge walls which make my head hurt, but seems to be little actual crunch in them. None of the reads are particularly out there one way or another, which is a little scummy, but meh -- D1 scumread list (Shadow, Minimum, Edd) is terribad, but does get revised going into D2, which makes the whole thing seem more legitimate.

What prompted you to change your opinion?

Also, what is your read of Pandora? You mentioned him as null at the beginning, and gave no indications about the read changes, unlike on other players.

And Magua attack on my request to Minimum is ridiculous. If you are town, you already know the result.

That is

exactly

what makes your question to Minimum fluff and worthless. Right there. In a nutshell.

Again, if you are town, try to look at this from non-Magua point of view. I don't remember mod saying anything about you being an innocent child, so why not check, even if the chances are really small? All it takes is good will and one PM. It doesn't use any resources that are needed elsewhere. Do you see this day full of life and discussions, or do i somehow distract Minimum from anything?