Mini 1401 - Game over!

[TheConman17]

I did answer it

[Kthxbye]

Hey conman, if you flipped town do you think it would help us find scum? If so, who would you suspect be the most likely person on your wagon to be scum? Second and third most likely?

Here, since you're too lazy to go back a page to see what you might have missed to spark my asking you to answer it again...

[TheConman17]

They would be likely candidates

[Nobody Special]

WHO? WHO would be likely candidates? (Hint: we're looking for playernames.)

[Kthxbye]

As in top 3, most to least, names, as stated in the original question...

/facepalm

[Kthxbye]

Here, I'll help you even further...

TheConman17 (L - 2): Kthxbye, havingfitz, Slandaar, Nobody Special, theaceofspades

Out of the 5 on your wagon currently, WHO do you think is most likely scum? WHO would be likely scum after that person, and WHO would be the 3rd most likely scum.

So, for example, you'd say, 'I think xxxxxxxx is the scummiest of the 5. Then xxxxxxxxx and xxxxxxxxx as second and third most likely scum in my opinion'....

Is there anything unclear about what I'm asking now? You can even copy and past the above and just fill in the 'xxxxxxxxxxx' with NAMES of PLAYERS on your wagon.

[TheConman17]

Hey conman, if you flipped town do you think it would help us find scum? If so, who would you suspect be the most likely person on your wagon to be scum? Second and third most likely?

second and third

plus the fourth ones are my scum list, I was agreeing with you

[Kthxbye]

Does that mean from most to least scummy you have:
'havingfitz - probably the scum
Slandaar - if havingfitz isn't scum, its this guy
NS - if I was wrong about the other 2, this guy is the 3rd most scummy on my wagon'

Why can't you just be clear about this and list fucking names like in the now 2 examples of what I'm asking you to answer with?!!!

[TheConman17]

Okay that is how it goes yes

[Singer is Nachomamma]

Ok I'm actually going to be semi-V/LA for the next two-three days (more so than I have been lately >_>), since I'm actually in the middle of moving. Tomorrow I'm flying out (WITH A ONE-WAY TICKET), and then Monday/Tuesday are gunna be spent signing all of the papers and moving in. I trust Nacho with whatever since he keeps me posted on his thoughts and I can always tell him how wrong he is.

So you should probably just do the opposite of whatever he tells you to do.

I kid, I kid.

[Huntress]

After taking the recent posts from everyone into unbias consideration, I still say Conman is the best lynch for Day 1. Some of you make good points, and they are worth looking into imo....Day 2, after scum-Conman is dead and buried and being eaten by worms.

Why aren't the points worth looking into until day two after someone who the majority of players don't seem to think is scum has been lynched? Which points do you think are good?

second and third plus the fourth ones are my scum list, I was agreeing with you

Does that mean you no longer suspect Kthxbye? If so, what made you change your mind? And what was the reason for your earlier vote on Qwints?


I was looking back at the voting earlier today; in particular the shift from Kthxbye's wagon to Conman's. Kthxbye seems to have been doing most of the work on starting a counterwagon himself, trying Gorgon and SiN before settling on Conman, but looking at the votes havingfitz, NS and Slandaar are implicated, being the only ones who voted Conman without having previously voted Kthxbye (although I'm currently thinking Slandaar is town). If Kythxbye flips scum it's a good bet one or two of these will too.

If Conman flips scum I'd be looking at Mephisto and absta first.

[Kthxbye]

I think conman is scum. Even if he's not, I think a PL is in order. I asked him the question of scum reads on his wagon for the purpose of him flipping scum. If scum, I doubt he was smart enough to bus his scum buddy(s). We'll see after he dead. I'm also so very board with day 1. 2 votes are needed. Get it done.

[Kthxbye]

Huntress, I believe the points to be better evaluated after conman flips.

[Kthxbye]

Also, explain this counter wagon you speak of. What was the first wagon you believe I tried stearing people away from?

[TheConman17]

Oh ya I will also be gone tomorrow because I have a lacrosse tourney

[Huntress]

Also, explain this counter wagon you speak of. What was the first wagon you believe I tried stearing people away from?

The first wagon was the wagon on you.

I don't agree with a policy lynch on Conman. Maybe a compromise lynch if we get close to deadline but not yet. Just because you're bored isn't a good reason to cut the day short while there's still more we can get out of it. I've still got a few more people to look at and I'm sure others have too.

[Kthxbye]

The wagon on me was bunk from the start. I didn't need a counter wagon because the case was thinner than rice paper. The wagon on conman is because he's scum posting scummy things, not to try and take attention away from myself.

[Singer is Nachomamma]

guess this is the game i play when i am drunk!

I think conman is scum. Even if he's not, I think a PL is in order. I asked him the question of scum reads on his wagon for the purpose of him flipping scum. If scum, I doubt he was smart enough to bus his scum buddy(s). We'll see after he dead. I'm also so very board with day 1. 2 votes are needed. Get it done.

this is a horrible reason to want to lynch someone
you just want to lynch him because he hasn't been that transparent and you think his reads list will be revealing when he flips scum

conman you should help me lynch fitz before singer gets back
he's scum

kthx is being really town lately which is cool
if only he would see the light...

[Slandaar]

@Absta: I will answer when [ongoing] ends.

OK Huntress...

Being a bad towny is just as bad as being a bad scum since if you're town, nobody in their right mind would ignore your scumminess.

This gives me a bad vibe. It's as if he knows he's pushing a mislynch and is making a pre-emptive defence.

Read Kthx's quote in context, she has taken what kthx said completely out of context to paint him scummy (and to defend Conman)

Conman is scum because nothing he says makes any sense, he has no reasoning, he is literally trolling from what I can gather, he can't answer basic questions.

Unvote
Vote: Nobody Special

had he put me ( fake ) L-1 then two people might have paniced or seen that I was done so they might have voted for me, very scummy

Why would people panic seeing you at L-1 thinking you are done and vote?

Does this make sense if hes town? no it doesn't

If scum? yes; BUSSING (in panic).

[Singer is Nachomamma]

Conman is scum because nothing he says makes any sense, he has no reasoning, he is literally trolling from what I can gather, he can't answer basic questions.

just because you don't understand him doesn't mean that he is scum
just because he has no reasoning doesn't mean that he is scum
if he is trolling it has absolutely no fucking weight on his alignment
not answering questions doesn't. make. someone. scum.

[Singer is Nachomamma]

Why would people panic seeing you at L-1 thinking you are done and vote?

Does this make sense if hes town? no it doesn't

If scum? yes; BUSSING (in panic).

this...
is weird and points decently strongly to scum.
hmmm

[Huntress]

Read Kthx's quote in context, she has taken what kthx said completely out of context to paint him scummy (and to defend Conman)

I did take it in context, in that he followed it up by confirming his vote on Conman, although this may be coloured by the fact that what he was calling a scumslip is something that I've found town are just as likely to say as scum.

And SiN has ninja'd me on both points I was about to make re: Slandaar's comments on Conman. The point about being worried about panic bussing is a good one. I may be wrong but I'm thinking Conman is quite young and that this is why his posts are the way they are. I had a look at the site he mentioned and the latest game I could find there was a failed game a few months ago which doesn't back up his claim that roles are not randomly assigned. Although the fact that the mod of that game had to confirm the randomness twice implies that it is not always the case there.

[Singer is Nachomamma]

You inspired me to do a little legwork of my own, and I found this. It's the first game in that forum, and I'm feeling like my first instinct was right. Lynches happen crazy fast (the Day 2 lynch in this game, which I linked to, included a blatant fucking scum quickhammer and the LyLo lynch happened like, instantly) so it makes sense that Conman would say something like that.

sooo he is back to town

[absta101]

@Huntress

My original case was the fuss about scumhunting and his going after people who did seem to me to be hunting (post 41, post 43 and post 48).

So this was your case on Kthx pre #52?
Your suspicion of me (the one you posted in #52) only works if i'm Kthx's partner, and this case is what gave you the confidence to even consider the connection. That's bs.

Also, explain what you "expected" from my response to Slandaar's vote on me.
I'm voting you because I don't believe your accusation of me came from town.

I don't post my personal notes. What I post in the thread is for others to read.

Explain why what you posted about me would be useful to anyone who didn't have Kthx as a conf scum read.

How did this change your opinion of Conman?

It made his self vote look very fake. It showed that he didn't really want out of this game.

[Kthxbye]

The lack of activity in this game makes me sad.

More votes on conman. Kthxbye. Yeah, I just kthxbye'ed you. Now you have to do it.