ArcAngel wrote: i know, like said i haven't crossed my ways with all the players yet. we have this day phase going until the Friday. so i am not rushing in voting yet.
Here’s a bit of site meta for you to consider – MS in general regards withholding of votes til deadline to be at best anti-Town and with a scum-tell with enough players that it will get you heat regardless of whether it is your natural playstyle or not.
Also – when addressing Vi it is best to NOT capitalize the i. VI (both in caps) is shorthand for Village Idiot here on MS.
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Mehdi wrote: Add the word a between Vi and vig. And yes I think the fact he's pushing on it is bad since so far it just seems like complaining about someone annoying (if it was someone really scummy then why is Vi not voting her).
Disagree that saying AA is a good Vig shot doesn’t make sense. This is a Large game (yeah, on the smallish side but a Large). The more players in a game the more it makes sense Night 1 for any potential Vig to not go “Hero Mode” and instead Policy shoot. And the roster as it stands is very, very light on good Policy shots outside of AA.
Your next line in this very post (AA’s reads are light on any commitment) support this, actually.
@Mehdi
– given you stance on Empire’s wagon please analyze who you think is most likely scum on your current wagon (6 deep).
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@Ser Arthur
– please link me to your common games with Vi. I need to see evidence that you think Vi’s playstyle (especially Day 1) is to be heavy-handed and rule the Town. Also why do you think Vi asking for the Vig to shoot AA was in any way not serious? It is a logical policy shot coming from Vi who understands that drawing a Vig role has a tendancy to make even the smartest player stupid (see EBHOBANWOOF).
Ser Arthur wrote: Why do I have feeling that AA is a She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named (for the sake of less confusion, BabyBlue) alt?
I now hate you for planting this seed in the back of my head.
I don’t think so … but …
I hate you.
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Rofl wrote: holy overreaction batman. must have struck a nerve. now i know i'm right.
Interesting analysis. Funny, but interesting.
Why is medhi scum? Please articulate your reasons in at least a sentence that isn’t fluffy rhetoric.
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Empire wrote: Erm, thought I explained why in #112 but to elaborate a little more: when reading newer players,
I put more emphasis on tone than I usually do
. This is because, well, they're newbies - they often do dumb things and they often haven't developed their skill at scumhunting so a lot of the stuff about "passivity" is something I tend to see in newer players a lot. Hell, even if you've played elsewhere, you still need to get used to the site culture/meta (I know I spent months casually following ongoing games here before I even made an account).
Aha – now I see why I find you scummy – the bolded. I find tone to be a fluffy non-word that people use to justify reads that can’t otherwise be justified (aka more likely to come from scum than Town).
I also disagree completely with your “new players are passive” theory in that passivity is mostly a function of playstyle (I was damn active the second I joined MS and subsequently got Nightkilled in my first two games N1, meanwhile NS is an inactive lump of terrible-ness despite being on site for so long) and personality than ‘newbiness’.
Empire wrote: - The Vi comment was basically me fucking around since he's a friend and one of the few people I talk to off-site so I just wanted to take a little jab at him. It wasn't meant to be any sort of reaction test which is why I never brought it up again.
Ok, I can see that as long as Vi doesn’t say “Screw that, I don’t know this joker IRL”.
Empire wrote: - Over-explanation is what I do. The running joke is that I basically play like a version of Regfan and it's (embarrassingly) true. Here are some instances of me over-explaining stuff: Micro 34 (here and here, Micro 54 as a replace-in here, and Mini 1373 here and here (on my now discarded main, satire). Furthermore, given that we only have one week deadlines you better bet that I'm going to try and draw as much as I possibly can from each game day.
So if this your normal style I’m back to my original position – that I don’t see the reasons for your ‘Town clearing’ of AA to be logical and reasonable. I think it’s been put well that you are grasping for reasons to say AA is Town. Everything you put forth is either based on premises that are not valid (new players prefer Town and that in general new players all conform to behavior patterns when AA’s own posts refute that she should be considered inexperienced) or based solely on your own personal experiences (which apply to you not necessarily to others).
The only thing I think would be a strong Town tell for AA would be her constant antagonizing of Vi through calling him bad and saying VI instead of Vi. And even that is predicated on knowing it is stupid to do so as Scum which requires her to know Vi which apparently she does not.
Empire wrote: - MoI, I asked you the question because my impression was that you still posted during your V/LAs, only less frequently (sorry for the mistake).
Sometimes I do. It depends on how much free time I have to myself which is very swingy. Currently with my daughter recovering from a broken wrist and holiday activities it is more constrained than usual.
Empire wrote: Honestly, as against the grain as this is going to sound, I'm liking AA9 more for town.
1. How is this against the grain? I don’t recall anyone directly calling AA anything other than Newb Vigbait.
2. How exactly are you liking AA MORE for Town when
Post 112 reads a pretty definitive?
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"
Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.