NY 160B - Welcome to Castle Zar - TIME FOR FIREWORKS!

[Tammy]

Mehdi's at l-2.

I know not all white knights are created equal but it makes no sense for you not to be a little suspicious. Do you have a history of being susceptible to white knighting or being buddied as town?

Arhtur - lol...I'm still a little bitter about you getting quicklynched after I was night killed by the way.

[Empire]

L-2 if I'm not mistaken.

Generally speaking those are my recollections of NS.

*checks*

Yeah, you're right.

Vote: Mehdi

L-1 for the folks at home.

Do not quickhammer please.

[Tammy]

He then picked the most townie vote on empire and calls it the scummiest. He then has not listened to why his interpretation is incorrect.

Can you really not see how this is just purely loaded? Since I said his vote was worst maybe I completely with the assertion and whether you think someone's post looks town doesn't mean I will think that. Similar to how I stayed with my idea on it you stayed with your idea on it for most of the time (and still are since you're calling it the best vote).

It's not loaded. You have multiple times demonstrated that you either don't understand or are refusing to understand what threasoning for the vote was. Until you do that we can't have a reasonakbe conversation so you might as well not reply to me about this anymore. Ive explained to you why your reasoning was a misinterpretation and you just refuse to listen. It's like you insisting to farafan that buddying was when two people had votes next teach other when that's not what buddying is.

[Empire]

Only two days left but I feel like I have a decent grasp of this game with my townreads so as soon as everyone else is done with their business I'm fine with an intent to hammer, etc.

[roflcopter]

Town (S to W) -> Empire, Baby,

{

MoI

}

, AA, Tammy, | SAD, snow, rofl,

{

Deas

}

, Joh
Null (most to least town leaning) -

{

King, NS, Kon

}

,
Scum - Vi

lets all thank mehdi for the roadmap to his scumbuddies, which i will wager are all located within the

{ }

s i added to the above

[DeasVail]

lets all thank mehdi for the roadmap to his scumbuddies, which i will wager are all located within the { }s i added to the above

I think you're making too many assumptions.

[Mehdi2277]

Also why is Vi a scumread (might I mention your only)? I mean beyond that one line "explanation" where you voted him.

A. The vig thing
B. Not ever replying to a. why did he vote you while teasing maestro and b. why did he vote me along with how he's pushing this lynch

Mainly it (so the one line is fairly accurate). Partial BoP too in just what he's said so far (such as the amount of time AA being annoying is discussed or not hearing any other scum reads of his).

What do you think about KM's reads?

I think he has the best reason to vote AA even if the vote is dumb and it's better then I want her shot. Emp read is similar to mine and you as well. Joh considering how his meta fits him town when he's annoyed the reason fits (admittingly most people's joh reads are ok since it'd be a scum tell on majority if the reason town reading him was scummy). The way he went through his reads I like most though in how they just came spaced out. His read on me similar to his read on me isn't really different from multiple others with the main added thing was the high activity mention. Overall the primary thing that helps is how the read came.

Why is Deas weak town?

Mainly his questioning on the meta thing felt genuine. Partly I'm used to DV posting like this too.

Why is Snow weak town?

Agree to emp's reasoning on him.

Is your townread of Baby really that strong?

Yes

P-edit: I can't remember myself white knighted much on site. I did have a town read and was correct on it on someone who did in the past though. And again remember how me white knighting piggy wasn't called a scum tell for me? And how you're using it against her now (well at least leaning towards it). I think I can tell when white knighting is a decent idea and when it's just dumb considering I do it a lot.

P-edit 2: Tammy I can the same thing to you and have mentioned that before. I disagree with it and that's likely the best you'll have me say on it.

P-edit 3: You can somehow pin point scum with a range of one on that list (like MoI and DV).

[Mehdi2277]

*...I can say the same...

[roflcopter]

lets all thank mehdi for the roadmap to his scumbuddies, which i will wager are all located within the { }s i added to the above

I think you're making too many assumptions.

i love how every time i point out who mehdi's buddies are said buddies start getting really defensive about it

[Mehdi2277]

Rofl want to answer who's scum if I'm town?

[Mehdi2277]

It takes a minute to do for my supposed scum buddies so what about the reverse?

And tammy before you respond to that let's make this clear: Can you comprehend the idea of disagreeing with something even after hearing the explanation repeatedly? Since somehow I have to understand joh's vote is town when I disagree or I'm ignoring the reasons why it's best.

[roflcopter]

Rofl want to answer who's scum if I'm town?

for a second time already, no. you really ask too many questions that only serve to clutter the thread.

[Mehdi2277]

Why not? It won't kill you to answer a simple question even if your sure I'm scum.

[DeasVail]

Has Mehdi claimed yet?

[Mehdi2277]

No I haven't.

[DeasVail]

Ok, well I'd like a claim if people don't think it's a terrible idea.

[Mehdi2277]

If it's a hammer intent too then sure.

[roflcopter]

(dv just bus him already)

[Tammy]

@Tammy:

What are your thoughts on the players who have posted since your #138 (specifically Arthur, MoI, roflcopter, and DV)?

Arthurs town. He's not doing any of the over aggressive stuff he does when scum (or bad town where I tend to go after him :p ). He seems pretty relaxed and not self conscious. All in all he's fitting his town self pretty well.

MoI - I haven't seen enough to be able to get a read on him, and wanting to see more contribution from him is one reason I didn't want the day to end right now.

Leaning town on rofl - rofl's kind of hard to read because he works on gut, but from what i remember from when we were scum partners in Kanyes game was that he doesn't think he's that good as scum and doesn't necessarily like it. He was really aggressive and pushed weak things then which doesn't fit him here really.

DV - need to see more from DV too. Post 204 looks fairly townish though.

[Tammy]

Oh but rofl's giving a bunch of townreads looks good to me.

[Mehdi2277]

Tammy what's your read on the three nulls I have?

[Zar]

A ghastly apparition of a young woman with red hair has often been seen roaming the rose garden and the greenhouse. The apparition is seen as if tending to the bushes, and then walking straight into the Eastern Gate and down into the Castle Crypts. Prince mykonian's wife was well known to be an adept of gardening.

Day 1, Votecount 10

Mehdi2277 (7): SnowStorm, Vi, Johhog, roflcopter, Ser Arthur Dayne, Konowa, Empire

Vi (3): DeasVail, ArcAngel9, Mehdi2277
ArcAngel9 (1): Kingmaker
Empire (1): MagnaOfIllusion
Johhog (1): Baby Spice
Konowa (1): Nobody Special

Not Voting (1):

Tammy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: Friday, December 21st, 2012 1:00 PM New York Time. (GMT-5) (End of the Mayan Calendar! )

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-12-21 13:00:00)

[Konowa]

This day is boring already. Happy with a Mehdi lynch. Already said why I think NS is scum with him. AA is prob town, agree with the Vig shot here regardless, because of Mehdi's over the top discussion about the Vig shot.

This is me posting without really reading.

[Konowa]

When Mehdi flips scum, Vi needs scrutiny too.

[Mehdi2277]

I'm at least happy that you're pushing Vi. So what is AA read wise? It can't actually be probably town if I'm making her look worse enough to be a good kill.