NY 160B - Welcome to Castle Zar - TIME FOR FIREWORKS!

[Mehdi2277]

Point being? It's part BoP like I said before.

[Mehdi2277]

I'd also argue his scum reads are pretty much the easiest people to fos currently so effort wise I don't see as much I'd expect from Vi.

[Zar]

The victims of Prince mykonian's wife inevitably always appear at the bottom of the well with a frightened look and a rose clutched on their left hand.

Day 1, Votecount 12

Mehdi2277 (7): SnowStorm, Vi, Johhog, roflcopter, Ser Arthur Dayne, Konowa, Empire

Vi (3): DeasVail, ArcAngel9, Mehdi2277
ArcAngel9 (1): Kingmaker
Empire (1): MagnaOfIllusion
Johhog (1): Baby Spice
Konowa (1): Nobody Special

Not Voting (1):

Tammy

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline

: Friday, December 21st, 2012 1:00 PM New York Time. (GMT-5) (End of the Mayan Calendar! )

Countdown to deadline

: (expired on 2012-12-21 13:00:00)

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Meh, I'm tired of this dance.

Vote 2: Mehdi

[DeasVail]

Ugh.

[Mehdi2277]

Claim wise I don't need to claim since if that's a hammer I'm dead and if not then back to wanting an actual hammer intent. If I am dead main thing is spice is still town and the idea of her white knighting me when it just isn't worth doing nor is it worth continuing the argument with joh makes her town. Tammy I know I've white knighted, but still the way she did it just wasn't scum motivated since the benefit wasn't likely to occur if she disagrees on other things too.

Vi really needs to be pressured more. The meta on Vi I don't know, but what I do know is a. she's pushing the vig thing strangely, b. she never answered me or SAD really on her vote on me, and c. hasn't shown much effort really when it comes to pushing people.

rofl I have a feeling you'll use that list of scum anyway when I flip town if I do right now. Don't. It's a dumb idea and I'm also fairly sure DV and MoI are town (the nulls are fine lynches though except kingmaker being null is partly he hasn't said enough nice but what he has said is fine).

[Mehdi2277]

That mostly covers what I want to say if I'm dead beyond while I don't expect that reads list to be fully accurate, I do want to say not to lynch the top 5 town reads + DV without more reasoning beyond something like maybe he was white knighting me or maybe he's using too many words when that's his meta.

[Nobody Special]

I am here, reading at top of page 18. Please don't end the day until I post; I need less than half an hour.

[Nobody Special]

town


vi -- pretty sure



tammy?

roflcopter -- strong

scum


arcangel -- but maybe just dense newb


empire -- mainly for calling me and Vi scum



mehdi/johhog is very prob town-on-town (but looking @ mehdi individually he is so scum his scum smells of scum)



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Hi, please accept my apologies: I got a metric assload of work dumped on me in the last two days, and the sudden rain we had caused other time-mangling cimplications. Back now, all is under control.

unvote

Tammy: No, and my list of reads is (mostly) in this post.



See, my problem with the johhog/Mehdi interaction is that the argument as a whole looks town-on-town, but looking at Mehdi

in toto

without regard to the Johhog thing, Mehdi looks scummier than scum on a scum-filled pond with pondscum.



This is why Mehdi's scum and needs rope.

Oh, look, here's more reason to grab the rope. Only one scumread? Really?

Really??

Breaking news: [url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 552865this[/url] post from Empire just makes my teeth itch. Something's not right. Edit: Mostly, it was the "two days" thing -- I see that we have 2.5 days, so meh. But still. Feels overly confident.


And now in post 431 we have Arthur agreeing with my (old) read of scumKonowa. I'd honestly have to go back to page 1 or 2 to see why I thought that.


Vi, 338:
This is probably the first time I've ever found Tammy boring.

See what Vi's read on Tammy is.



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Posting all this from my unedited notepad file, because I don't know if day is really over and I want this posted before threadlock.

[Nobody Special]

@Nobody Special

– is Empire still a scum read for you?

Yes; see above for more detail.

[Mehdi2277]

A. So Vi has given one scum read (two if you think AA counts) and isn't considered very scummy for that?
B. I've had one scum read before more then once on day 1. Having a ton of weak scum reads isn't really better then having one strong scum read.

[Nobody Special]

Vi's whole attitude this game is his townself. It just is.

[Mehdi2277]

I love how pure meta is the argument. So he's always really lazy as town to not ever explain an fos (mine isn't explained and AA not really)?

[Nobody Special]

The whole thing on AA with the vigshot was just Vi torturing a newb. I swear, how everyone took it seriously is beyond me.

[Mehdi2277]

K back to he's given so reasons for an fos and while it's ok for him to have only one scum read I have to have multiple?

[Nobody Special]

No.

However, your entire game has been scummy, whereas his has not. The number of scumreads is just one grain of sand in the entire Sahara. Your desert is scummy, his is pristine.

[Mehdi2277]

So the rest of me scummy is? Questioning to hear things is something I already responded to as an fos that simply is something I like to do as both alignments.

[Mehdi2277]

And really your defense of Vi is just he currently fits his town meta. I still find the idea of needing multiple scum reads as dumb if it means just make them up.

[Nobody Special]

You aren't listening (reading) what I'm saying. Also, I pointed out several scummy things you did in my recent long catch-up post.

Stop being dense.

If you're still alive after a votecount, I'm quite ready and willing to hammer.

[Mehdi2277]

I always read. The two things you said for me needing rope are a. One scum read and b. Saying I was asking a question without using it to read someone. Both I responded to. You can also throw in I reek scum and the response is I could care less for a vague attack.

[Empire]

Before I forget, writing this out in case the thread closes while I'm asleep:

{

Mehdi, MoI, DV, Baby Spice, Kingmaker

} <---- Scum team is in here. NS's recent posting makes me feel better about him, particularly his reaction to Mehdi though that's not at all conditional on Mehdi's flip. Going to do some meta work on Konowa since he's my weakest townread at the moment.

[Mehdi2277]

Yeah I feel pretty happy that two of my strong town reads are in your pool of death and I continue not to get a good reason for Vi town.

[Empire]

I'm glad you are.

[Kingmaker]

Picking the easy target now, aren't we? And is she really the right vote if you considered her null until now? You get a place on my suspect list.

Easy target? I could have hammered Mehdi there and move the game to a date that is more comfortable for me(after my exam, that is), but I didn't?

Voting a null for pressure and etc. is not so rare thing and often useful? It's not like I can't move my vote or something.

[Kingmaker]

Johhog is town too. His interaction with Mehdi and general content tells me so.

What about his interactions makes you think he's town?

His attack against Mehdi was solid and didn't feel fake, so I think he is town.

Archangel is null at best. I don't like #186 but that is something I did as a town before so I can't say it is a accurate mafia read. Though while reading her I got the feeling that she is feeding over other people's reads rather than scumhunting herself but meh.

You didn't made as many as posts i did. so what are you? A minus.?
And in what way your post is looking like you doing any better scum hunting? You don't even have a proper opinion as yourself. So get yourself into game and talk about others. I didn't mean to get rude but you haven't been in game much and you complaining already that you don't like my posts..

._.

My scumminess/lazyness/low activity/whatever you call it, doesn't change your overall scumminess/townieness though? I mean, if you are not taking my posts serious just because I missed early game, what is the point of me playing? ._.

I can complain about whoever I want, as long as I find their posts scummy?

Actually, I think I will

vote: ArchAngel

. Your "I have more posts than you, so actually you don't have the right to criticize me" behaviour just made me move you to scummy list from null list, congrats!

This tells me how amateur is your play style. this is no logic to call me Scum.
And you didn't had any right to call me "Null" either so we are even... If you wish to continue to call me scum, Go ahead!!
If you're scum, Town will see your lamest attack. If you're townie. It will be the diaster for town!!

Chill down champs, it is only one vote. ._.