AP wrote:note that mastin mostly ignored Yates all game before this.
Note that Mastin had a townread on Yates for some reason (I really can't remember
) and didn't have him on radar, having basically forgotten he was in the game.
...And upon realizing this fact, realized what that implied.
Generally, player dropping off the radar = alarm signs of a scum player.
Basically, he was a strong townread...who I then realized..."wait, why's he town, again?", and when I have that thought, with light of his drop in activity, townread took a nosedive.
He was still on the positive side of null at the time, hence why he wasn't one of my lynch candidates.
And I showed no hesitation to sheeping you on Yates, AP, for the very reasons I have in the post you quoted: you were dropping towntell after towntell. I had zero reason to think you were scum at that point. My read on Yates was actively being changed. I had him under consideration. And you presented him as a lynch candidate. I wasn't fond of the alternatives (if memory serves, anyway), so quite frankly he coulda still been on the town side of null and would've been my preferred lynch still.
And by the way, the votecount is misleading. I was not the first vote on Cheery Dog; the previous voter removed their vote and voted somewhere else. And, yeah, I was willing to mislynch zab, since I had really run out of ideas for who to lynch. All my scumreads were clearly town at that point, so I needed a vote
somewhere
.
AP wrote:Where the fuck did that read come from?
The QT, of course. Nero and I agreed on Khan. Nero didn't want to lynch Yates, and if memory serves, didn't want to lynch zab, either. So no matter how strong those wagons were and whatever my stances on them were, I respect Nero's opinion and wanted to work with him. Hence, the Khan vote.
2. throws a lot of bullshit around about mykonian being scummy for not targeting Acosmist. Despite not actually pushing that lynch. And despite calling Mykonian town all game.
You might recall, this is exactly when my read on myk began to change from town to scum. I gave him a pass on his role and his role alone. That was the sole foundation of my townread on him. But his usage of it strongly made me reconsider him. Again, Nero was against that lynch, hence why I didn't push it harder.
4. Calls Zab scum and wont entertain the thought of a different lynch.
If memory serves, my wording was much like, "okay, sure, zab's scum; that's a done deal, but where do we go from there?" (Which reinforces the below, by the way.) That's not me calling him scum for sure. That's me talking in negotiating terms, addressing stubborn players like MoI and asking for what comes after zabriel--a question I desperately needed to know the answer to.
He actually does move onto Yates later with a shitty explanation.
I'd been considering moving my vote before then, if memory serves. I'm a funny guy like that. When an urge begins to form, it builds and builds and builds up. I resist the urge to act it out at first, but eventually, it collapses over and I say (often in those exact words
), "SCREW IT", and act out the urge. In this case, voting Yates. But I held no hopes of actually getting Yates lynched that day. I felt that zab was a mislynch and that Yates was scum, but I wasn't confident enough to stand a chance against those putting their money in zab being scum (like MoI).
My memory's not too good, but if it's not lying to me, then it says that during that time, I thought zab was town...but I had almost no confidence in it. And part of my Guide to Playing Well (or whatever guide it was) and all subsequent material based off of it is to not push something you don't believe in. (Or in my case, not push strongly something you don't strongly believe in.) Did I think Yates was scum, yes. Did I think zab was town, yes. Did I think zab was town strongly and Yates scum strongly enough to put a real effort into switching their lynches, no, I did not.
