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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:08 pm

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In post 470, Mirhawk wrote:could you explain this in more detail? I don't follow.

when he first came into today, he was pretty damn sure naomi and i were the scumteam
and then after it's a 1v1 between me and naomi, he starts talking about how he was so much surer of me than naomi and how he's not really that sure of lohan, which in turn gives him a boost in the current 2v1 against me so he doesn't have to back up why i'm scummier than naomi in other parts of play
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:09 pm

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also, I will read up tomorrow.
I don't really have anymore time today.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:51 am

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In post 52, Naomi-Tan wrote:VOTE: Unvote

being away still for the next 2 days, I'm not really active enough to keep this vote. I'll put a vote back up after I finished my Holidays-stuff

Naomi has been really conscious about how active that she's been, and this shows that she doesn't do it normally as town. The fact that she felt the need to unvote because she's not active enough to keep up the vote is weird. Why does she need to be a certain amount of active in order to have a vote on someone she thinks is scum? Then, after this, she avoided the thread until January 5th (you can tell by looking at that game I linked) without even a "hey i'm back!" which seems more like scum fear than anything.

In post 140, Naomi-Tan wrote:Eh.... well Nacho I still find kinda scummy,

she literally just got done calling me town

In post 154, RagnarokCometh wrote:What on earth was in the person in my roleslot's head when they thoughtlessly tunneled them. Goodness gracious.

and i missed the amished tell
this is Ragnarok seeing his predecessor as obvscum and his first move is distancing because he doesn't want to mess around with Hume.

In post 154, RagnarokCometh wrote:I'd also like to add that I am not Galadriel and are therefore not entitled to explain any of my roleslot's past actions, I suggest you completely forget the null and heavily ridiculous posts that they've posted up till now.

still concerned about making us forget gala

In post 154, RagnarokCometh wrote:I know this ironic, but yes, my largest townread is the person that my player slot was previously tunnelling.

...and still. I have no idea why he's so transfixed on his predecessor, but it makes more sense for scum than town because town sees that they replaced someone who was doing stupid things and they don't really care at all.

In post 159, RagnarokCometh wrote:I would actually be largely surprised at this point if chkflip were to not flip scum.

Ragnarok getting a scumread on me for talking about looking for Ms. M's partner is strange, considering Ragnarok does things like this.

In post 171, Naomi-Tan wrote:VT is about the only thing scum will claim, I'm feeling okay about this lynch, given the history.

quickhammer. don't forget the quickhammer.

In post 178, Naomi-Tan wrote:I was really impressed by it and don't think scum would be so good, if he is scum then I don't think he will win this.

naomi is in love with ragnarok
what was that about scum buddying up to their partners?

In post 317, RagnarokCometh wrote:(Now for another obvious bid for a towntell...)
Naomi-Tan is now at L-1, this time no one is going to hammer without the lynchee at least claiming, hopefully we'll get a defensive post but with the lynch target I'm not 100% sure.

mmmmmmmm
this feels a whole lot like "claim a power role, please", especially with this:
In post 324, RagnarokCometh wrote:I actually do really want lohanoholic today, oh well, t'was not to be.

the place for rag to go after naomi claims PR is clear
not to mention that he ended up jumping off before waiting for naomi to get back, which is :/

In post 337, RagnarokCometh wrote:Also, Claiming cop as scum on misslynch with a guilty is genuinely retarded, and I don't believe you to be genuinely retarded so I believe you to be cop by default.

Ravenpaw, is that a cop cc? And if so, what is your report?

Also, Ms Mangaral, I'm going to say this one more time, exactly how moronic scum do you think I'd be? Let's see how far you're willing to bet I'm trying to make you townread me.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mirhawk

why is he voting mirhawk when he thinks there's a cop cc
why

In post 343, RagnarokCometh wrote:Ms Mangaral, you're possibly one of the most annoying players that I've played with, exactly what was the point of fishing out the cop? And in the case that you didn't and mirhawk was lynched, and he flipped town, what would you have done then? You would have probably been autolynched. Although, what's mind boggling is why you'd put yourself in that much risk as scum, because it really isn't a smart scum move, which makes me hesitate on voting you.

In post 356, RagnarokCometh wrote:but a lynch on naomi is so much better than a lynch on Ms M.

then the minute i go after ms m:
In post 369, RagnarokCometh wrote:Actually, screw that.

he votes marangal.

In post 380, RagnarokCometh wrote:Although, I don't know why I'm justifying myself to someone who is already dead and likely scum as well.

why indeed
why indeed

In post 380, RagnarokCometh wrote:My reads are up in the air with lohan/naomi not participating and you being frankly unreadable.

and when the hell did he switch his read on me?
he was scumreading naomi pretty hard yesterday, but somehow that post that he clearly didn't initially find suspect put him over the edge?
i mean, even if he townread lohan from her claim, it doesn't really make sense for him to immediately be like "yeah lohan is for sure town" and then go after me instead of naomi. it seems more likely that he didn't want to bus today and figured that lohan's claim looked town as fuck and he would rather go after me instead of put up with me and pretend i am town.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:06 am

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Bonus Tracks:

Spoiler: reads lists
(#154)
Hume
Lohanoholic
Ms Marangal
Ravenpaw
Nacho
Naomi
Mirhawk
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(Post #195)
Naomi-Tan
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(Post #208)
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Nachomamma8
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(Post #230)
Ms Marangal
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(Post #278)
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(Post #282)
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(Post #317)Bonus Tracks:

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(#154)
Hume
Lohanoholic
Ms Marangal
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Nacho
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(Post #195)
Naomi-Tan
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Nacho
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Mirhawk
Ms. Marangal

(Post #208)
Lohanoholic
Nachomamma8
Ravenpaw
Mirhawk
Ms Marangal
Naomi-Tan

(Post #230)
Ms Marangal
Lohanoholic
Nachomamma8
Ravenpaw
Mirhawk
Naomi-Tan

(Post #278)
Mirhawk
Ms Marangal
Nachomamma8
Ravenpaw
Naomi-tan
Lohanoholic

(Post #282)
Ms Mangaral
Nachomamma8
Ravenpaw
Mirhawk
Naomi-Tan
Lohanoholic

(Post #317)
Mirhawk
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Nachomamma8
Ravenpaw
Lohanoholic
Naomi-Tan

(Post #323)
Ravenpaw
Nachomamma8
Mirhawk
Ms Mangaral
Lohanoholic
Naomi-Tan

(Post #324)
Ravenpaw+
Nachomamma8
Ms Mangaral
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Lohanoholic-

(Post #330)
Ravenpaw(+)
Mirhawk(+)
Nachomamma8
Ms Mangaral
Naomi-Tan(-)
Lohanoholic(-)

(Post #343)
Mirhawk(+)
Ravenpaw(+)
Nachomamma8
Ms Mangaral
Naomi-Tan(-)
Lohanoholic(-)

funny thing you might want to notice
i've been chilling at the top of his reads lists for most of the game
naomi has been chilling on the bottom
at late, lohan was his strong scumread (stronger than naomi!)
but then all of his suspicion of her disappears with one claim
and he's willing to go balls-out on me
but not his stronger read
oh i wonder why

Spoiler: excuses
In post 14, Naomi-Tan wrote:I'm still away for holidays :D
be posting more consistently on the 2nd onwards.

In post 52, Naomi-Tan wrote:being away still for the next 2 days, I'm not really active enough to keep this vote. I'll put a vote back up after I finished my Holidays-stuff

In post 137, Naomi-Tan wrote:Fine.. Ill try answer, but I don't like posting when sleepy.. so nothing too big okay.

In post 157, Naomi-Tan wrote:I hate that last post so much... I was forced after 4 hours sleep to go out with my mum shopping, we left at 10am, got back at 5pm and brought; a pair of gardening gloves we picked up in the first shop

so yeah.. Im not thinking straight..

In post 295, Naomi-Tan wrote:I payed for an hour of BT Fon, the internet people say they can't get us online till monday :( So as the night will come up tonight anyway, I thought I'd not ask to be replaced (as that would be only 2 days into D3.) and I'll catch up the best I can then.

I'm sure most of these are true. I think that Naomi constantly throwing them out means that she's self-conscious about her posts and is finding a way to explain them.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:57 am

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yeah that's more or less what I wanted from you.

You make a decent case on Rag, not sure if I want to commit to that right now but since I think Naomi is scum anyways we could always just lynch her today.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:06 pm

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once lohan claims who she is targetting overnight.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:38 pm

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Well, I can't totally claim until it seems relatively certain who will be killed. I mean, if claim Naomi for example and she's lynched, obviously I wouldn't be jailkeeping Naomi.

But probably I'll jailkeep Rag. And if Rag is killed, then Nacho instead.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:44 pm

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Day 3

RagnarokCometh ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

lohanoholic ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

Mirhawk ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

*** Nachomamma8 ( 2 ) ***
RagnarokCometh
Naomi-Tan
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(L - 1 )

Naomi-Tan ( 1 )
Nachomamma8
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(L - 2 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 2 )
Mirhawk lohanoholic

Total Votes ( 5 )

Needed to Lynch [ 3 ]



Deadline: March 1st at Noon EST


Rag has been prodded
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:34 pm

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Yeah that's fine.

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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 11:36 am

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Unvote
Vote: Naomi-tan


No more talking for you guys :P Im gonna stop this whole Iohan plan here HAHA!
Naomi ~ ☠ ♠ ♣ ⦿ ✿ ♡ §
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:28 pm

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Day 3

RagnarokCometh ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

lohanoholic ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

Mirhawk ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

Nachomamma8 ( 1 )
RagnarokCometh
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(L - 2 )

*** Naomi-Tan ( 3 ) ***
Nachomamma8
Mirhawk
Naomi-Tan
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(L - 0 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 1 )
lohanoholic

Total Votes ( 5 )

Needed to Lynch [ 3 ]



Deadline: March 1st at Noon EST


Naomi-Tan the Mafia Goon was lynched


Night deadline is Wednesday at 20:00 EST
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Tue Feb 26, 2013 4:55 am

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Replacing Rag. He has not picked up the prod I sent him Saturday
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:32 am

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Rag PMed me back saying he had had some RL stuff. Letting him stay in the game
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:24 am

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No one died last night


Day 4

RagnarokCometh ( 0 )
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lohanoholic ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

Mirhawk ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

Nachomamma8 ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

Naomi-Tan ( 0 )
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(L - 3 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 4 )
Nachomamma8 Mirhawk lohanoholic RagnarokCometh

Total Votes ( 4 )

Needed to Lynch [ 3 ]



Deadline: March 21st at Noon EST
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:06 pm

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Pretty much what I expected. Does anyone have any incredible revelations to share?
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:33 pm

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Mirhawk, don’t we automatically win basically?
If A) we kill the other mafia member, automatic win.
If B) we kill a townsperson, then during the night I’ll just jailkeep the Mafioso still alive, so they can’t do anything, then the next day we’ll kill him.

I think someone needs 3 votes on him, so if we go after the actual Mafioso, the townsperson should have no reason to not jump on the bandwagon and end the game.
If we go after the townsperson, the Mafioso could refuse to vote to delay the game annoyingly. In which case I think the townsperson can sacrifice himself to end the game more quickly. Since then we’d be in night and I’d jailkeep to prevent a kill, then we’d lynch the Mafioso.
If the townsperson tediously refuses to sacrifice himself, I suppose we could twiddle our thumbs for an extra month and do nothing, then the next day switch to trying to kill the other person. Or I guess not wait and switch earlier, hoping that the original person we tried to kill hops to the hammer vote.

So I would rather kill Rag today. But unless I'm making some mistake above, I REALLY don't think it makes a difference and there's not much gameplay left needed.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:39 pm

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Okay, I thought of two exceptions, both of which I think would be absurd:
You and the other townsperson decide that I lied about being jailkeeper and lynch me.
The other townsperson and I decide that Ravenpaw lied about you being town and lynch you.
Or you don't actually think I lied but you just want the game to end really quickly so you convince the other townsperson that I lied so you can move on to another game, since then the mafioso would be free to kill either one of you and auto-win.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:41 pm

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In post 490, lohanoholic wrote:Mirhawk, don’t we automatically win basically?
If A) we kill the other mafia member, automatic win.
If B) we kill a townsperson, then during the night I’ll just jailkeep the Mafioso still alive, so they can’t do anything, then the next day we’ll kill him.

I think someone needs 3 votes on him, so if we go after the actual Mafioso, the townsperson should have no reason to not jump on the bandwagon and end the game.
If we go after the townsperson, the Mafioso could refuse to vote to delay the game annoyingly. In which case I think the townsperson can sacrifice himself to end the game more quickly. Since then we’d be in night and I’d jailkeep to prevent a kill, then we’d lynch the Mafioso.
If the townsperson tediously refuses to sacrifice himself, I suppose we could twiddle our thumbs for an extra month and do nothing, then the next day switch to trying to kill the other person. Or I guess not wait and switch earlier, hoping that the original person we tried to kill hops to the hammer vote.

So I would rather kill Rag today. But unless I'm making some mistake above, I REALLY don't think it makes a difference and there's not much gameplay left needed.


That's what I was writing in a post of mine that the site just ate.

You can lynch me if you
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want to but by this point you should freaking know how everythings going to turn out. Did you even read me/naomi interactions?

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If you jail mafia during the night do they get to kill?

P-EDIT: The first scenario isn't possible lohan, considering that you could have hammered nacho if you were actually scum, and neither is the second because mirhawk could have done the same thing. (As Nacho would be town in that scenario.)

This is pretty much gg.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:54 pm

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Looking at the general rules: A Jailkeeper (or Jailer)'s Night Action is one that protects its target from kills, but also Roleblocks its target.
Roleblockers are intended to try to stop the Night-kill.

I'll wait for zoraster just in case there are some tricky alternate rules which would be weird for a Newbie Game, but yeah, I'll be happy for this game to end like today.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:37 pm

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@lohan
Yeah I think we're pretty much home free as long as you aren't scum, and as Rag pointed out we would have lost the game by now if you were.

Nacho's better then Rag. I'm pretty sure Rag's not scum and Nacho's been pretty flaky all game.

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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:47 pm

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Besides It's impossible for scum to win at this point, why would Rag bother dragging it out for another day.

I suppose you could wait for confirmation from Zoraster if you want though.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:49 pm

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VOTE: NACHO


And just to clarify why I didn't hammer Naomi...I didn't log in between Mir voting for her and her hammering herself. In my defense, that was less than a day.

And I'll just say again, if as it seems it is that Naomi/Nacho are the scum...it's like the most absent scum team ever. That's largely why I felt like they couldn't be a team, because they both spent so much time not being around that it was absurd.
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:30 pm

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Day 4

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lohanoholic ( 0 )
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Mirhawk ( 0 )
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*** Nachomamma8 ( 3 ) ***
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Naomi-Tan ( 0 )
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No Lynch ( 0 )

Not Voting ( 1 )
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Total Votes ( 4 )

Needed to Lynch [ 3 ]



Deadline: March 21st at Noon EST



Nachomamma8 the Mafia Rolecop was lynched



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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:38 pm

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thanks for playing everyone. please take a moment and join one of our other games. they're a lot of fun, and offer a plethora of styles, some faster than the newbie games.
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:41 pm

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Sorry for being a cunt in this game. Good job town.
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