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Post Post #5150 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:53 pm

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In post 5136, UberNinja wrote:operative words:

"in retrospect"

And you will explicitly see in the Dead QT I said:

"fool me one, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

I think it works fine once. I don't think I'd be tricked again if you pushed so hard on bizarre reads. As the game progressed the wagons you pushed didn't seem to have much thought behind them but simultaneously you were so positive about them, which you of course do as town but the reads I'd consider "good" ones.

I don't think I would fall for that again, should you play that card again. We'll see
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Post Post #5151 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:53 pm

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In post 5144, ActionDan wrote:MattP is actually good though.

Also I question how people thought Rev was anything but obv-town


Probably his avatar. ANyone with a black and white avatar is probably scum.
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Post Post #5152 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:54 pm

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Good game to my team. And thanks for not wasting a kill on me. :)

I knew the scum team and their roles. I knew they couldn't kill me, so unless there was a vig/SK, I was safe at night. To make sure I was safe during the day, I planted a cop crumb. Figured if there was a cop, I'd take him down with me, if not, I'd hide behind Nom/AA9's roleblock. Which really screwed things up for me when right after I claim, an AA9 wagon takes off and bam, dead JK...

N2, I went back and thought Hero was the cop, both based on the force replace and him not believing me. So I was going to start off D3 by claiming scum right away on Hero. But his death changed that, so I figured I try to go with plan b, saying I investigated hero but he flipped dead town.

D4 was my favorite. Paybacks to matt. Highlight of the game right there for me, even more than the surprising mislynch of Dan (and sorry Dan, you were the easiest target to mislynch D5 despite your belief you weren't....)

Other favorite part was when Matt apologized for outting the cop. I laughed so hard at you feeling bad, though it only lasted like 1/2 a day.

Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

And mollie, I heart you. I really do think we think alot alike as players. You are one of the people in this game that I would most like to play with again.

Oh and Nero, thank goodness you died D1. You always nail me when I am scum.... :)
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Post Post #5153 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:55 pm

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Wasn't Nacho in this game also
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Post Post #5154 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:55 pm

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In post 5148, Vifam wrote:The setup itself seemed pretty townsided though

I agree.

I was like WTF there's THREE masons, AND an innocent child?
and we only have 1 PR, and one of us is a TRAITOR?

what the actual fuck, maestro

In post 5149, TheReverend wrote:
In post 5144, ActionDan wrote:MattP is actually good though.

Also I question how people thought Rev was anything but obv-town


I'm very erratic, it's easy to point the finger at me.

you pissed away all your cred early on by pointing fingers at anyone who made a legit case against you

i.e. vifam on D1 and AP on day 3
(?)


and then forgetting about them as soon as they stopped attacking you

that, more than anything else, made it easy to ignore any perceived legitimacy you thought you had
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Post Post #5155 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:55 pm

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In post 4262, I Am Innocent wrote:Yeah I hear you. I don't expect anyone to necessarily believe me, but this is the honest truth. I am a 30 something yr old married man who never had a cell phone before last November (my wife had a 60 min per month phone for emergencies). We went straight to smart phones. One of the benefits to having this is I can check my mafia games at work, which blocks the site. So it is easy to go to the top of my webpage on my phone, and hit the swirly arrow to refresh, and the box at the top that indicates a new page has been started.

Posting on it for a guy who has never texted or anything, not so fun. Which is why most of my posts are in the mornings, lunch time, or evenings. It is why as AP likes to point out, it took 17 mins to get on, respond to matt about being the cop. The other day, I was reading on my phone at work, and saw dan's vote and push on myself so I started responding. I didn't see your post until it showed up in the preview box afterI submitted my response to Dan. Honest truth. Coincidental in hindsight, yeah I could see that. But a 4 minute coincidence none-the-less.


And for the record Mollie and all, this post was 100% true.
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Post Post #5156 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:55 pm

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In post 5153, Vifam wrote:Wasn't Nacho in this game also

yeah but we fucked him up on N2 ;)
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Post Post #5157 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 pm

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Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #5158 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 pm

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Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.
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Post Post #5159 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:56 pm

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Yeah, but Nero Cain + Mastin hydra was so easy to take out
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Post Post #5160 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:57 pm

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In post 5152, I Am Innocent wrote:Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith
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Post Post #5161 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:57 pm

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In post 5150, MattP wrote:
In post 5136, UberNinja wrote:operative words:

"in retrospect"

And you will explicitly see in the Dead QT I said:

"fool me one, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

I think it works fine once. I don't think I'd be tricked again if you pushed so hard on bizarre reads. As the game progressed the wagons you pushed didn't seem to have much thought behind them but simultaneously you were so positive about them, which you of course do as town but the reads I'd consider "good" ones.

I don't think I would fall for that again, should you play that card again. We'll see

that's why i dont play the same cards twice very often

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Post Post #5162 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:58 pm

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In post 5151, mozamis wrote:
In post 5144, ActionDan wrote:MattP is actually good though.

Also I question how people thought Rev was anything but obv-town


Probably his avatar. ANyone with a black and white avatar is probably scum.

false! you're not scum, rev's not scum, i am innocent's not....

HEY WAIT A MINUTE
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Post Post #5163 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:58 pm

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In post 5148, Vifam wrote:The setup itself seemed pretty townsided though


I assume you guys were all goons?

Setup wasn't too townsided imo.

You have 5 scum in 21p which traitor or not, is strong for scum.

town PRs are 3 masons, 1 IC, 1 BG, 1 vig. basically 5 confirmables + 1 guy who'll die anyway. vig goes against the masons and the IC. Scum JK shuts down vig if he claims. Scum NK shuts down masons + IC if they claim. If none claim there is at least some chance vig will shoot masons / IC.

It's pretty managable.
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Post Post #5164 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:58 pm

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In post 5153, Vifam wrote:Wasn't Nacho in this game also


DAMN HIM TO HELL LOL
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Post Post #5165 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:59 pm

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In post 5159, Vifam wrote:Yeah, but Nero Cain + Mastin hydra was so easy to take out

I'm a pretty easy lynch and you better be glad.
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Post Post #5166 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 pm

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In post 5157, Nero Cain wrote:Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic
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Post Post #5167 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 pm

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In post 5160, MattP wrote:
In post 5152, I Am Innocent wrote:Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith


Luck had nothing to do with it... :cool:
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Post Post #5168 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:00 pm

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In post 5155, I Am Innocent wrote:
In post 4262, I Am Innocent wrote:Yeah I hear you. I don't expect anyone to necessarily believe me, but this is the honest truth. I am a 30 something yr old married man who never had a cell phone before last November (my wife had a 60 min per month phone for emergencies). We went straight to smart phones. One of the benefits to having this is I can check my mafia games at work, which blocks the site. So it is easy to go to the top of my webpage on my phone, and hit the swirly arrow to refresh, and the box at the top that indicates a new page has been started.

Posting on it for a guy who has never texted or anything, not so fun. Which is why most of my posts are in the mornings, lunch time, or evenings. It is why as AP likes to point out, it took 17 mins to get on, respond to matt about being the cop. The other day, I was reading on my phone at work, and saw dan's vote and push on myself so I started responding. I didn't see your post until it showed up in the preview box afterI submitted my response to Dan. Honest truth. Coincidental in hindsight, yeah I could see that. But a 4 minute coincidence none-the-less.


And for the record Mollie and all, this post was 100% true.


I didn't attack it :3. I knew it was true. It was almost puposefully alignment neutral though
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Post Post #5169 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:01 pm

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In post 5160, MattP wrote:
In post 5152, I Am Innocent wrote:Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith

yeah there was luck involved with that for sure, but he took advantage of the preparation he had already laid

and then he got both you and AD lynched with a ridiculous amount of swagger

therefore he is the scum MVP in my eyes

hiding in plain sight.... you clever mother fucker, IAI
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Post Post #5170 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:01 pm

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In post 5166, UberNinja wrote:
In post 5157, Nero Cain wrote:Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.
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Post Post #5171 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:02 pm

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In post 5167, I Am Innocent wrote:
In post 5160, MattP wrote:
In post 5152, I Am Innocent wrote:Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith


Luck had nothing to do with it... :cool:

^ 100% baller :cool:
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Post Post #5172 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:03 pm

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and ya IaI, I did know I was the easiest. I tried my best to argue that.

Seriously though I had you dead to rights.
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Post Post #5173 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:03 pm

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In post 5170, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 5166, UberNinja wrote:
In post 5157, Nero Cain wrote:Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes
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Post Post #5174 (ISO) » Thu Mar 07, 2013 1:04 pm

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AP didn't know a thing about balance. It was unfortunate.
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