Mini 1427 - Slenderman Mafia - Game Over

[Human Destroyer]

Apart from me, who do you want lynched? What are your other reads? What are your other thoughts? Why are you semi tunneling me so hard?

Human Destroyer, the case on me is essentially that I'm obv scum for defending levy. Apart from that, there's nothing.

Hiya straw man!

You're scum, not for your defense of levi alone, but because the circumstances under which you 180'ed on levi make

no fucking sense.

You can say "Oh well yeah he was actually a town-aligned traitor" but...what the fuck? How is that at all a plausible claim? It's like me saying I'm a 3-Shot Daycopdoc that can simultaneously investigate someone and protect them from dayvigs during the day. Is it possible? Yeah I guess. Is it plausible? Hell no.

Why haven't you actually tried convincing people of my scumminess instead of throwing your vote down and proclaiming me scum?

I've stated it multiple times.

People just don't know how to open their minds to logic.

The PoE really does make sense, and I agree with Serra that is reeks of pissed off scum.

There's such a huge logic flaw here. Town can and will be pissed about their lynch too. It is not a scum-exclusive trait. 3 people now trying to push that is just what the fuck.

Apart from me, who do you want lynched? What are your other reads? What are your other thoughts? Why are you semi tunneling me so hard?

I don't want anyone else lynched. You're extremely likely to be the last scum, and I'm not letting you out of my sights.

The only person I'd even consider lynching over you is serra from my early scumread on him.

Why shouldn't I tunnel on the likely last scum? I don't have multiple people I want lynched. When you just need one person lynched...y'know, you tend to kinda tunnel! Shock!

P-Edit: There's not enough players to do 4 scum.

[Mr_Ree]

We do have enough players for 3 scum and one recruitable. Especially, if that recruit can reveal scum during RVS if he wanted to.

[Human Destroyer]

No we don't, most

13p

games it's 2 + Traitor, recruitable or not; this is

11p

.

And revealing that scum during RVS would be really dumb and suspicious and bad play, but w/e that's besides the point.

[Mr_Ree]

Two scum with the possible recruit knowing a scum means the game could easily end with the lynch day 2. Hell, it could potentially be done night 1,

[Human Destroyer]

3 + Traitor leads to D2 LYLO if traitor doesn't out his known scum and gets recruited N1.

[Human Destroyer]

Either way...it seems like bad setup design.

Oh well, postgame.

[Mr_Ree]

I just recently (not that recently) played a 13 player game with Yates that had 2 scum teams of 2. (4 scum with 2 nightkills)

[Human Destroyer]

yeah but the scum can't all win together, therefore negating the possibility of early LYLO

[Mr_Ree]

3 + Traitor leads to D2 LYLO if traitor doesn't out his known scum and gets recruited N1.

In this scenario, the traitor would have to play against his wincon. He's town, he wins with town, why would he not out scum?

Hell, if I had Levi's role, I would have full claimed with my first post and told everyone to lynch me day 2.

[Human Destroyer]

Nah, if your plan is to get recruited and take on the mafia wincon, it isn't.

[serrapaladin]

Meh, assuming there's three scum, had I been Levi I would have waited for a D2 mislynch and shouted out "yo scum I'm a traitor, NK me to win" in D2 twilight.

Either is swingy as fuck.

[serrapaladin]

Hey Marangal, wanna comment?

[Aj The Epic]

On the whole, we seem to be skipping cases this game in favour of the information lynches. Problem is, we ran out of information. Almost. Aj seems to know more than he's saying. I don't know what he's got but I don't really want to lose him at night before hearing what he's got.

@AJ, would your information reveal scum or clear a suspected member of town? If you can reveal scum, I would assume you would have done so already. If it's about clearing town, leave it for now unless they start building a decent wagon. I'd suggest a reveal in twilight, in case you don't make it to tomorrow.

If it is in regards to clearing/condemning Yates, as you seemed to imply, that should be dealt with now. I'd rather not find myself being fooled and I have no way to verify it myself.

See... It's not GOOD enough in my eyes, which is why I held it. I'm a one-shot bullet proof VT, and with the kill not going last night, I was wondering if we had Yates claiming BP... which seems really odd. But it also seems really odd that we'd have many BP townies. Let me re-read. I'm home from Florida tomorrow evening.

[Mr_Ree]

So the both of you would have gone for the scum win... wow...just....wow... I don't even...

I'm super glad Levi drew that role then.

You two are just...wow.. It's nice having the choice and everything but... really?

P-edit: I know why you guys are BP. This makes sense. Vote SP or HD, I'll reveal tomorrow

[Lord Mhork]

Well ya see the issue is that I'm not scum, Human Destroyer, so your tunneling isn't making sense to me. If you are actually town, I'd like to know who else I should be looking at.

Also you keep saying my 180 doesn't make sense, but it

did

. Levy's claim bled truth and honesty and it made sense to me. I thought he was telling the truth about safety, and he was, and I believed him about his towniness, which he also was. You say it's straw manning, but that is literally all I can see about your 'case' and it sucks.

[Mr_Ree]

Wait wait... wth? Not doc? That actually explains everything! That's the missing piece!! One of you probably lost your BP status last night or...

@SP, are you bullet proof too?

[Human Destroyer]

Seriously?

"It bled truth and honesty."

I call bullshit. When your

strongest scumread

claims town-aligned traitor, what kind of townie believes that? Really?

Like I seriously cannot believe that Mhork-town would have this thought at all.

[Aj The Epic]

VOTE: Human Destroyer

I may want Mhork tomorrow, but I think that HD is a better lynch right now. Got some flail going.

[Lord Mhork]

Well Mhork-town did. Mhork-scum is much smarter and less abrasive, but whatev's.

Also my giant 'scum' read was just hatred toward levy for being anti town as fuck. He claimed town aligned traitor and said that safety was scum, and he was right. This honesty made me feel as though he was being totally honest about his claim. Why should I doubt? I'm not you, Human Destroyer. I have the capacity to look at roles more than just what I've seen before, so I wasn't about to dig further from levy.

[Human Destroyer]

I think that was the hammer.

Vanilla Townie, Mhork must die, etc etc good luck town bai

[Mr_Ree]

Nononono SP!!! Vote SP!!!

[serrapaladin]

In that case Yates is truthful and scum is Mhork or Ree...

Also, BP negates chance of early scum victory, so 3 + traitor is logical.

[serrapaladin]

Ree, I would have played the traitor role opportunistically, as it should be.

Claim for town if non-Safety scum is lynched, else claim in twilight to get scum win.

You claiming you would have been all goody about it is fake.

Also, what the hell was the thing with your avatar earlier this game? Did you ever explain?

[serrapaladin]

Yates, Marangal, Aj are town. Yates, final thoughts? Aj softclaimed around the time levi was messing about with being a traitor, so he's telling the truth. I can only hope the last NK was taken out on Aj...

Mhork AND Ree must be the remaining scum?

[Mr_Ree]

Yup, that's a lynch. I'm more sure of SP but I guess my second choice works too. This should be enough for tomorrow.

Nope, not fake. I prefer the town win. It's harder to achieve and therefore more gratifying.

For some reason I was getting a broken image as my avatar for a full day. Blame it on bad wifi I guess.

P-edit: lol. Can't wait to reveal and power lynch you SP.