NY 163: Void Mountain of the Nightless Temple (Game Over)

[Voidedmafia]

Votecount 1.2:

Metal Overlord - Bulbazak, BT, Jennifer
TheLurker - ms. marangal
Underachivers - Robocopter, Metal Overlord, Klick, Human Destroyer, Arcangel, keybladewielder
keybladewielder - DrippingGoofball, Antilles, RachMarie, Otterhorse, Titan, TheLurker, Underarchivers (L-2)

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch and to no-lynch.

The Deadline is in (expired on 2013-04-06 22:45:22) or by 9:45 PM on April 6th, 2013.

The Mastin2 head of The Underarchivers is V/LA until at least the end of March. I would appreciate a status update by then, Mastin.

[RachMarie]

@ Mod I know you just posted the VC but could you replace the replaced ones with their replacers? Thanks ♥

[OtterHorse]

Why do you want to waste your vote on PL, i thought you want to lynch Antilies or UA, what happened to that?

Because no matter what KBW is him being alive hurts town win chance. He is that poor of a player.

[Robocopter87]

Why do you want to waste your vote on PL, i thought you want to lynch Antilies or UA, what happened to that?

Because no matter what KBW is him being alive hurts town win chance. He is that poor of a player.

You sad sad little pony

[Metal Overlord]

MS: Placeholder, will post my thoughts after my dinner

[RachMarie]

umm you do know you can't edit your post? so why a placeholder that does not compute?

[Klick]

Hey TUA, why is KBW scum?

[Metal Overlord]

whoa shit LOL

woops >.<

Anyway lets get back to business

TUA's #577:
My agenda was clear for all lol. I was voting the next largest wagon at that point in time to save my sorry ass because Deadline was almost approaching and I wanted to do what I could to prevent a removal of a (in my eyes) definite town. My agenda was not hidden anybody with have a brain could see that.

In fact, your reflex reaction vote back on me was also a form of self preservation, so don't you dare call shit out on me for that pathetic reason. By your logic you would have been scum too.


#593 I lol'd

And there we go, finally a viable policy lynch target. Despite me, I am in favor of policy lynching day 1 and/or 2 to rid the most detrimental-to-town/noob players from the game, on the off chance that we hit scum, and at the very worst remove an obscenely bad player anyway -- not a person we would want in LYLO. Basically a Policy lynch is a town-mutually-agreed upon OMGUS .

VOTE: keybladewielder

#640
bubazak took 123 pages to reply my post ;-; Well you were sick so I forgive you.

Based on my meta of KX I'm not sure if he genuinely read the whole thread or not, he has been known to do that but I certainly wouldn't(lol) I understand that what you're saying is that ISOs are meant to scrutinise a player's posts only and not to read anything else from the thread. Well honestly I don't have too much of a comment on this because I... don't engage in such technobabble, but I believe it is not likely for an experienced mafia player, town or scum, to trip about game mechanics like that, and all the more he should scrutinise his own posts for mistakes before posting if Kx were scum.

also yeah I see where you're coming from with the Titan's post. I don't engage in semantics, too superficial, but if someone wishes to challenge me to a game of one I would kindly accept.



Yeah thats about all from 24-27 I guess. Looking forward to more replies!

[Metal Overlord]

also guys hold your hammers, I accidentally put him at L-1



actually UNVOTE:

Will hammer later, make use of the time

[Jennifer]

Back in civilization, catching up today.

[Zdenek]

Well, I may break my promise. I've managed to read to page 14. Here are my top 5 scum reads in no particular order.

Antilles
MetalOh
Reek
KBW
The Acting Method

[Zdenek]

Mod: could you put the replacements in the first post

Oh, right. Thanks for reminding me.

[TheLurker]

as inaccurate as expected from scum slot

[Ms Marangal]

I see nothing wrong with Zedenek's scum-reads. it could very well be the fact that he's town who doesn't know how to separate Anti-town actions from town actions, and frankly I'm having a bit of trouble doing that this game as well

[RachMarie]

I don't see post 658 coming from scum there Z dude... Why is MO on your list? Sure the two of them have done some oddball things, but overall I get a towny feel from them.

[Ms Marangal]

I'm not fond of the lurker right now. Might be residue from my feelings of TAM, though his opening post rubs me the wrong way.

Why are you getting any feelings from TAM?

Judging from his posts, he was obviously too busy to even play, rendering the whole thing null, maybe a few defenses here and there before he replaced out

. It seems more like an unrelenting tunnel than something you've actually thought about.

You should probably join one of the main two wagons instead of playing obtuse and continuing a rather unbased line of voting.

I'm actually going to keep my vote on Lurker. re-reading, this post here kick's my gut real hard, especially the Bolded, and his latest post doesn't make me feel any better. I realize my vote is Idling on TAM/Lurker though the fact that he had to call that out and tell me to switch to two larger wagons to me, Suggests that he doesn't like having the vote against him.

also, Amish tell anyone?

[TheUnderachivers]

Hey TUA, why is KBW scum?

He's scum for the same reason that anyone is ever scum on this site; he was sent a scum pm by the mod.

But his ISO and the fact the you two knuckleheads are unwilling to lynch him makes me think he's scum. I've never played with Key before, some folks are saying he's always like this so yeah that's nullish I guess but his playstyle is so unhelpful. Lets kill it.

@MS-maybe. Is TAM playing in other games?

[Ms Marangal]

not that I'm aware of Currently, though when I had started to originally suspect him, he was semi-active in the Polygamist game that I had with him. He is modding a game though

[TheLurker]

I'm not fond of the lurker right now. Might be residue from my feelings of TAM, though his opening post rubs me the wrong way.

Why are you getting any feelings from TAM?

Judging from his posts, he was obviously too busy to even play, rendering the whole thing null, maybe a few defenses here and there before he replaced out

. It seems more like an unrelenting tunnel than something you've actually thought about.

You should probably join one of the main two wagons instead of playing obtuse and continuing a rather unbased line of voting.

I'm actually going to keep my vote on Lurker. re-reading, this post here kick's my gut real hard, especially the Bolded, and his latest post doesn't make me feel any better. I realize my vote is Idling on TAM/Lurker though the fact that he had to call that out and tell me to switch to two larger wagons to me, Suggests that he doesn't like having the vote against him.

also, Amish tell anyone?

mm, it's actually a call for you to out some other reads besides tunneling on me

[Ms Marangal]

Why does it matter if I tunnel you? if you are town, you should be able to take the pressure I'm giving you with no problem. I do have other suspects and I have stated them in thread

[Bulbazak]

Page 21:

I like Titan's call to consolidate lynches, and when I'm done with these catch-up walls, I hope to do just that. Until then, I like my vote where it is.

Still like TAM for scum, but he's replacing (replaced?) out, so I'll reserve judgement for his replacement.

Let the alt think what he wants. Anyone with half a brain knows that I'm actually pretty darn good. I mean yeah, I'm pretty disappointed in myself that I'm having a hard time getting into this game. I promised Tammy a post where I'd yell at folks and I fully intend to see that through.

I'm still waiting... ...you can even yell at me if you want (once and gently) just yell and let me believe you're town, please?

but I lubs you Tammy and don't wanna yell at you. I rather yell at BT for his crap selective scumhunting or Key for being nothing more than a fluffy lurk monster or Robo for his crap vote on me or otterhorse for being a grown man that watches kids cartoons.

However, I hear that "grown man" has lady bits. Willingness to sling dirt noted.

Wrong game, sorry.

I'll catch up tonight.

Big words for someone who's not playing.

Finished page 21. On to page 22.

[RachMarie]

I believe the fact his game to mod came up is why he replaced out, Generally speaking asking to be replaced is a null tell MM. You are tunneling a tad here...

[Ms Marangal]

I believe the fact his game to mod came up is why he replaced out, Generally speaking asking to be replaced is a null tell MM. You are tunneling a tad here...

I'm aware of that. My read on TAM was null-scum, but my scum read on Lurker has gotten stronger especially since he's already trying to dodge any attention that I'm giving him.

[Bulbazak]

Page 22:

More scum posting from Antilles.

Nice to see that AA9 is able to distinguish bad play from scum (Well, for the most part.) That being said, I'm still not wild about KBW. If I have to, this would be my consolidation lynch.

Not much more on this page. Moving on...

Page 23:

MO's post #550 is immature. Way to make me want to play with you again guys...

UA's #556 is bad. MO's post has nothing to do with you. The blatant misrep is making UA flare up as real scummy.

MO is probably town based on his extremely obvious desire to not get lynched. I guess he could be trying to get one mislynch through before his death, but it's much more likely that he's town. Other than that, I support this wagon the most by far.

An extreme desire to not get lynched is not a town trait, it's a scum one. While town may not want to get lynched, they view it as an opportunity to catch scum. That means they'll be examining their wagon while they're alive, and if they're about to get lynched, they will try to get their reads out. I'm not saying that town should lie down and take it, but their defense is not going to take the form of "DON'T LYNCH ME!"

And now some notes on DrippingGoofball:

Funny story.

I started to iso the players in the list order and started with Reek and went: "whoa scum!" But I'm replacing Reek and wow, he's town.

You guys should have lynched my player slot on page 3.

I'm not sure what to make of this.

TOWN

DrippingGoofball / Reek (hydra of Channeldelibird and Nexus)
Human destroyer
BT
Bulbazak
Klick
Metal Overlord (hydra of metal sonic and kx)
Arcangel9

LEANING TOWN

Titan (hydra of Ser Arthut Dayne and Tammy
RachMarie
Otterhorse (hydra of zoraster and Rainbowdash)

LEANING SCUM

Serrapaladin
The Underachievers (hydra of Nero Cain and Mastin2)
Robocopter87

SCUM

Antilles
ms. marangal
The Acting Method
Keybladewielder

There's really no reason given for these reads, and I can't help but notice the similarity between the majority of reads list in the town. The obvious exception being MO, who you saw as scum a mere 20 min. before:

Post #550 feels like a scum response to me.

caveat: I have not yet read the game.

Are you saying that in 20 min. you were able to read a 23 page game and adequately develop reads on everybody? And in the same amount of time, switch reads on MO.

why metal overlord is town?

His #384 and #477 are good posting, A lot of firm reads with proper explanations.

And I started with a negative prejudice looking at his ascii fingers reaction. But reading is iso, I think town.

The reasoning for this falls flat here. Posts

#394

and #477 were bad, as I explained when I addressed them both. The reasons given for the reads were weak and were based more off of playstyle than actual scumtells. Essentially, they were thrown together to placate town. Metal Sonic's posting in #477 was essentially an attempt to get me off their back by buddying up to me. Although it was well written, it was just every bit a piece of scumposting as KX's readlist and response was.

I'm reading scumbuddies from these posts. DrippingGoofball is scum, and his readslist is every bit as fake as MO's was. I was really hoping for more here.

Finished page 23. On to page 24.

[Metal Overlord]

MS:
@Bulbazak, 557:

It was unfortunate that the people on the wagon on me at that time were my town reads: BT, You and Jennifer(albeit of a null read at that point). It was not possible to garner information at that point with such little people on my wagon(4 people were on the majority which only 24 hours hours left on the deadline; that's half of the majority needed to lynch!) What was I supposed to do, call you and BT scum? I wanted to delay the lynch as long as possible until most players have read my (painstakingly) written #447, which unfortunately you denounced as "scummy", before judging and making the decision to lynch me afterwards. The fact of the matter was that I believed there was little grounds to my lynch, with only 4/9 voters needed for the majority, and most of my defense had not even been read; what else could I say but "Don't lynch me"?

@Drippinggoofball I'm sure he did a half-assed job. 1 minute per page. lol



Regarding the "reads", although I cannot deny the ones which was posted were manufactured and not really done with the sole intention of helping the town, do note that there are two heads in this hydra, with two different playstyles, and I appeal to you to create a solid read holistically by combining the reads of both heads together, and not just tunneling on a single "scumtell" from one head of what could have been a playstyle quirk.


Question for you, bulbazak. Why would you think that I would want to buddy up to you, of all players in this game? I do not deny the "buddying", and in fact I'm glad you noticed it, but there's no scum motivation if I wanted to buddy you for malicious reasons.


Also, agree with MM's #669