Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[Jal]

Wind-up's big hurrah about the ridiculousness of him

specifically

being blue scum made me rethink that idea.

[Slandaar]

Option 1: Think about things for hours on end, toss and turn in your sleep about the tough decision to be made, read and reread the thread and then vote wrong and realise how much time you wasted.
Option 2: Sheep Slandaar and if he is wrong blame him.

Clearly option 2 is best, what is the hold up here?

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

wind-up (1): Slandaar
Not voting (6): Jal, penguin_alien, wind-up, PeregrineV, ArcAngel9, Allyra

With

7

alive, it takes

4

players to lynch.

Day 6 ends in (expired on 2013-04-06 19:00:00).

[Allyra]

although the fact that wind-up seems to have checked out of this game while being active in his other game is disconcerting, and i'm usually not one to consider that a thing.

still waiting on pv though.

[Jal]

I noticed that, but it might be indicative of scum in general versus blue scum specifically.

[Jal]

I really don't know where to go with Wind-up.

[wind-up]

Yeah, I am just a bit fed up with Majiffy and feel like we're not making much headway. Which is obviously not solved by disappearing. But disappearing does mean less stress! ^-^

[wind-up]

I have come to the conclusion that Peregrine is most likely blue scum. I do not like his formal / semi patronising tone and really he does not scumhunt at all. He defends a lot. And he townhunts.

VOTE: PeregrineV

[wind-up]

Penguin is town

Why is she red not blue again AA?

Is this another super secret tell? Because you are still behind one explanation.

Let's start with Slandaar.

why are you ignoring everything I'm asking you?

And you keep trying to confirm yourself as town.

Since that's not going to happen without proof, walk me through whatever posts you need to prove you are not bluescum. Do it like I'm 6.

Yep, this is good.

[wind-up]

I did not mean to quote #3335 but it is a good example of his patronising tone which really feels like scum trying to be nice and helpful rather than actual PeregrineV

[PeregrineV]

Got 10 minutes right now, so penguin first.

[PeregrineV]

My reads so far will do an ISO tomorrow I hope.

town:

Darthe
Lurker
LLama
Nachomamma

thez

B&B
njsoeph
dumbledore

JAL
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null so far:
AA - will ISO

AJ The epic - will ISO

PM - no opinion yet
nhammen - no opinion yet

PeregrineV - no opinion yet
windup - no opinion yet

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null-leaning scum:

JaCobSavage

Allyra

DeasVail

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leaning scum:
Slandaar - Will ISO.

BUMI - Will ISO better, but either stupied or scum for having his vote on Nacho atm.

Baby spice

Sixx
TML

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scum:

Ztife

So uhhhh. Ztife/jeck are double bussing each other? Discuss? Still 8 pages behind, reading during a meeting. Awww yeeeee.

~Bird.

I have no problem changing my vote to Sixx which is my 2nd pick. if we're able to get a lynch soon, this game is so boring right now.

UNVOTE: Ztife
VOTE: Sixx

Seems like there's not going to be a lynch on Sixx after all, I'll go back to Ztife now and hope that more people come.
I will never lynch nsjoseph when we've so much better alternatives.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: ZTife

Being on autopilot; being behind; general lack of interest; wanting to be replaced; this summarizes the majority of content from our librarian friend. the rest is not notably town either.

Vote: The mini- Librarian

First is first four players (no girth posting):
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

Most interesting note is jeck has scumread on thez buts moves him to town in his series of posts. Also, scumreads list.

[PeregrineV]

VOTE COUNT

ArcAngel9 (1): penguin_alien
DeasVail (1): PeregrineV
Edosurist (1): The Mini-Librarian
Jal (3): Allyra, Darthe, DeasVail
The Mini-Librarian (4): Slandaar, ArcAngel9, Albus Dumbledore, Jal
Not voting (3): Boniface, Edosurist, Lurker

With

13

alive, it takes

7

players to lynch.

Allyra, I wasn't voting ArcAngel9 for defensiveness. My ISO as a recent replacement is pretty short and I think explains my reasoning pretty clearly, but the short version is that her jump onto Albus Dumbledore was really bad when considering her purported scum reads at the time and the hammer on JacobSavage was abysmal. Her refusal to acknowledge this, particularly the last point, is shady to me, but a lot of people seem willing to hand-wave it away as bad play. I'm not.

Having said that, the case on The Mini-Librarian is pretty bad if it really was expected that TML would be protecting B&B the night blue scum opted to kill B&B. Even if red had a roleblocker, why would they block TML and then not go after B&B themselves? Given that the other cases being put forward are the one on Jal, which stems from an erroneous assumption about blue scum kill knowledge and connections to Baby Spice that have yet to be divulged (Darthe, I'm listening), and a push on Edosurist that feels half-assed at best:

VOTE: The Mini-Librarian

Countering this is play by penguin himself. While he mostly seems to have it out for ArcAngel in his Iso, being number 5 on TML wagon does point away from bluescum.

However, the fact TML hammered himself might mean it was planned.

[PeregrineV]

Reading everything recent later.

[ArcAngel9]

the deadline is near.. Can we hurry up?

[Jal]

I'm voting by tomorrow if nothing else comes out of this thread.

[ArcAngel9]

Who?

[Jal]

I'm big time leaning PV here and this big delay of everything isn't making me feel any better. I've seen him do this as scum twice before. I think he loses steam towards the end.

[Allyra]

Option 1: Think about things for hours on end, toss and turn in your sleep about the tough decision to be made, read and reread the thread and then vote wrong and realise how much time you wasted.
Option 2: Sheep Slandaar and if he is wrong blame him.

Clearly option 2 is best, what is the hold up here?

Not at all why I play mafia.

Also leaning on voting PV.

[penguin_alien]

PV still seems luke the most likely blue scum. That's where I plan to vote.

[ArcAngel9]

PV still seems luke the most likely blue scum. That's where I plan to vote.

but you're the red mafia, right!!!

[penguin_alien]

Spin me a theory to support this and we can discuss it. Because I'm pretty sure you and wind-up are the red scum, so I am fascinated to know what you have to back this up.

And who do you think is blue scum?

[Slandaar]

OK I am going to make this really simple

Sorry it took a while. Lunch + listening to Colbert's interview on NPR cut up my reading. I.E., life.

Here are my reads I feel I should point out, ordered in the strength I believe in them:

Sixx - I'm just going to nod and say yes. Yes.

SCUM

PM - I don't feel like scum PM would do IIoA. Too blatant.

TOWN

Dumbledore - Opportune votes, especially his vote on thez. His interaction with thez feels scummy.

LEANS SCUM

thez - If Dumbledore is scum, thez is scum. Otherwise, I was getting a slight town read because of the recklessness at the start of the game. Scum wouldn't be that reckless.

LEANS TOWN

TML - He's a lot less inquisitive than he was in a game I recently played with him in which he was a mason. In that game, he seemed overly careful at times, which I'm not seeing now. Assuming he'd play similar as scum, he's likely town.

LEANS TOWN

JS - Credit goes to my gut for now. It's been good in the past, I feel inclined to trust it now.

LEANS SCUM

Jal - Mainly, we share similar reads. Town will work for now.

WEAK TOWN

NJ - He's not being very pro-town.

WEAK SCUM

Arc - I don't particularly agree with the wagon, but she's not town to me.

NULL

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With that said and done,
VOTE: Sixx

Sixx: Bus
Thez: waffle waffle if dumbledore (town) is scum thez scum otherwise town (set up dumbledore their interaction reads scummy only dumbledore takes the scum credit; this whole section makes no sense)
TML: waffle waffle playing different to how he was as a mason

He has all 3 known blue scum in this list of NINE people; that is kinda coincidental; And one is a yes yes scum (no reasoning - the only read with none) and the other 2 are the waffles in the post.

[Slandaar]

PV reads town because he challenged me too much

Scum don't do that like ever once I take over the town because they don't want to encourage me to lynch them they want to leave me on my path.

Lynch Windup.

[Allyra]

How does that differ from windup challenging you?

And how does edosurists reads list differ from Jecks Post 582?