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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:33 am

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In post 222, Majiffy wrote:
In post 220, borkjerfkin wrote:
Majiffy wrote:"Ok maybe this may look _____ but" followed by doing EXACTLY what was just prescribed by another player as to "you would look town if" is a massive scumtell I used constantly on EM. I haven't seen it pop up much here.


Eh, fine. I wasn't looking at it with regard to my post.
Still, why did you NOT jump off it?

Because Xegarus hasn't posted enough content under pressure to get an accurate read yet. And Mothrax would have to be the dumbest of all scums to hammer so early on when there is clearly more to be discussed.

Ergo threat of hammer by Mothrax is akin to North Korea trying to threaten the US with a nuclear strike.

But it's not about the hammer itself. I was afraid that Xegarus would claim prematurely and that cannot be good for town.
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:36 am

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In post 223, Pala wrote:
Eh, if that makes me look like scum so be it. I didn't do it to look like town but because I wanted to save town from making a mistake.

How do you know town would be making a mistake?

Who would be making a mistake, those of us voting for Xeg already, or Mothrax for hammering?

If it is a mistake, why do you call Xeg scummy and still voice support to vote him at a later time?
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:37 am

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Anyway, moving on,
In post 183, mothrax wrote:Eroll: do you think xerg is scum?

If xerg is scummy for lurking (I know it's not the only point against him) what are people's opinions on CE?

I'm not happy with how she's not even making an attempt to participate, but I'll need more from her before I can attempt to read her. Actually, since I'm not voting anyone right now, and don't have any scumreads aside from Xeg, might as well do this

VOTE: CityElectric

Pedit: Majiffy - see my post #225
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:40 am

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Why would you consider someone you think is scum being forced to claim town making a mistake?
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:45 am

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;)
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:51 am

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Because I'm not 100% sure that he is scum and I want to avoid what little chance there is of a premature claim happening.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:52 am

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I don't understand why you're putting so much weight on this "claiming = woe is town" thing. This is not where I thought your head was.
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:54 am

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Isn't claiming early a bad thing for town though? Where else did you think my head was? I don't expect anyone to hammer in a hurry here. Town would know better and it would be a dead giveaway from scum to do so.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:57 am

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I mean at it's most primal level, the only real "mistake" you should be worried about is getting town lynched; withholding support on a wagon because of underdeveloped interactions that could lead to a better idea of who might be scum is perfectly reasonable.

You're emphasizing claiming rather than emphasizing what his alignment might be when he does flip. That is weird to me.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:02 am

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Well, this happened in the first (and only) game I've played where someone pretty much every one thought was scum was forced to claim within a few RL days and he turned out to be a PR. So I would rather not have a repeat of that here if we can avoid it. Besides, there's no real harm done in unvoting at this point to give us time to get a better look at other players.
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:04 am

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Meh. I think I believe you.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:06 am

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VOTE: Pala
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:12 am

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@bork

Good, because I'm not lying.

What is your read on Mr. E? Elvis brought up an interesting point against his over cautiousness about the Xeg wagon when it wasn't really much of a wagon a few pages back. And I don't think he's posted since. Yup, just checked the activity log and he's about due for a prod.
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:15 am

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Pretty much don't have a read on Mr. E
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:20 am

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Alright. Why have you not voted Xeg, despite saying that you support his wagon? I see your vote is still on Wisdom. Do you find him scummier than Xeg? And are your reasons for this still the same?
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:25 am

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1) I addressed this -- I really don't want to end the day at all right now; Xegarus read is there but interactions with everyone are lacking. Pretty much no one is commenting on things NOT Xegarus (except Majiffy -- good on him for that)

2) Wisdom looked scummy early and hasn't really done anything to change that. Do I find him scummier than Xeg at this point? I don't know -- I think I need to reread for that. Majiffy says I'm misreading Wisdom's meta and I'd actually like him to elaborate on that.

Pala wrote:And are your reasons for this still the same?

Work in progress. Reasons are added as I go.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:30 am

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You said he was being obtuse. He's always obtuse.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:33 am

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Aight.

The situation here needs to simmer for a bit.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:39 am

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Well then take the lid off, turn the heat down to medium, and give it a few good stirs.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:40 am

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Also the situation doesn't really seem like it needs simmering. Seems very calm, actually.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:44 am

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Yeah maybe that was the wrong word to use.

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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:20 pm

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"We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."
― Walt Disney

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Xegarus
(2) Wisdom, elvis_knits <
Majiffy
(2) Xegarus, CityElectric
Pala
(1) Majiffy
CityElectric
(1) Pala
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Not Voting (1) mothrax

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With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2013-04-15 06:29:02).

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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:24 pm

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I am drunk right now

I have not read the thread

WOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:25 pm

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Wait how does xegarus only have two votes wtf
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:30 pm

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How does that make you feel?

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