Mini 1427 - Slenderman Mafia - Game Over

[Mr_Ree]

Agreed. Who do you propose gets investigated first?

[Aj The Epic]

I say investigate SP. Mhork is almost certainly scum anyways, so I don't need a confirmation to tie him up.

[serrapaladin]

Yup, Yates should clear me tonight (I really hope he can survive another night).

[Aj The Epic]

I said those exact words as scum once and the proceeded to cap the cop.

[serrapaladin]

Ok? Except I'm town and actually want Yates to survive.

[Mr_Ree]

???

This game is making my head hurt. My top scum read is asking for a follow the cop no lynch strategy directed at himself.

Do we still think there is two? What if there was one originally with a recruiting ability? SP's support for the strategy is making me uneasy. I still think it sounds good in theory. It would have been so easy had Yates targetted SP. I was being cocky though. I get that way when I think I have it all figured out. I have to admit I'm confused now though. I need a few more people to weigh in. I need to hear from Mhork in particular.

[serrapaladin]

Ree: If you're town, I think you seriously fucked us over by attracting the investigation. I genuinely thought you were scum for trying to beat around the bush with your claim. Now I'm leaning town on you, as your claim sort of makes sense and fits to your earlier play, but if there's another scum besides Mhork, I don't know what to think.

It's also weird that you would ignore the option Aj mentioned, that I'm only advocating the strategy because I know I can kill Yates tonight. It's not true, but it's odd you wouldn't think of it.

[Mr_Ree]

No, I considered it. I also think I drew the NK at least once, if not both times. The other thing is, it's a 50/50 shot now. If Yates were to die, it's still 50/50 and 100% confirmed Yates and Ms. M are town. I trust them for now but being 100% sure is always a bonus. That leaves a pool of 3 unconfirmed, 1 of which is trusted more than the other two, or two depending on your PoE.

@Ms. M: please stop prod dodging and rejoin the game.

[Mr_Ree]

As far as drawing the investigation, I figured Yates would target you and scum would target me. Story seems to suggest that they did.

[serrapaladin]

I still don't buy that you would have been the target over Yates, but we'll find out, I suppose. Targeting Aj or Yates for the first time would have also resulted in a No Kill.

If Yates does get killed, it at least solves that bit of my paranoia, and basically confirms MM.

[Mr_Ree]

Spoiler: last two night stories

It was clear no one could trust

leviathan93

anymore, and the tension in the group continued growing as the day progressed. Sure enough, when night came and no one knew where the guy had went, search parties certainly weren't sent out to find him. I tried to find a funny racist joke about black guys always being the first to die in horror movies, but the group didn't really seem to be in a laughing mood.

Oh, the Slenderman breaks every child he takes
Drags 'em off to purgatory...
After that it gets quite gory...
How's that for your bedtime story?

I was a little saddened in the morning when levi still wasn't there, but the lack of other missing persons lifted my spirits a bit. Though I did have to do the head count twice since some of our members seemed to have bundled up together for safety and protection. Can't say I really blame them.

No one was killed Night 3.

The peaceful night gave me a slight false sense of security, just enough to make me lower my guard for only a moment. I had decided to accompany

Human Destroyer

to get some more fire wood. We had started up a pleasant conversation about various diseases one could acquire from the woods when HD went silent behind me.

When I turned around I was faced with a broad back, lean, but skinny. As my eyes traveled upwards to his glowing, almost translucent white head, my hand automatically reached out and brushed oh-so-gently against the soft black coat. I jerked back in surprise, not actually expecting to feel anything, and with a wave of nausea I fell to the ground. By the time my stomach had finished emptying it's contents and I could move, I was completely alone.

Scared he'd come back to get revenge for touching him, I ran back to the camp and huddled close with everyone else - who were half worried about me, half disgusted by the stench of vomit.

Slender Man, Slender Man,
Blends in well within the trees.
Slender Man, Slender Man,
In the fog he's hard to see.

The morning came with bright sunshine and everyone still alive and well. I was honestly getting suspicious of two of the group members seeing how close they were getting... but hey, if they can find a little bit of love and happiness before they get taken off to their painful, horrid, torturous death, then who am I to stop them?

No one was killed Night 4.

[Mr_Ree]

By the way, I'm the pitcher

[serrapaladin]

Huh?

[Mr_Ree]

EBWOP: You know you wanted it.

If I was targetted the first night, which it sounds like, I probably would have been targetted the second night too, which it also sounds like.

Why waste a nightkill on someone you can't kill? They may have thought I was bullet proof also. After taking the first shot, why not go back and finish the job? Afterall, I was saying that the BP makes sense.

P-edit <3

[Mr_Ree]

If you think about it, it wasn't mentioned at all before those two nights.

[serrapaladin]

Still don't understand...

Flavor is vague about why there was no NK.

My theory assuming Yates is being honest: I assume scum targeted you or Aj N3. Then Yates claimed 1shot BP cop, so scum used their NK on Yates N4 to remove the 1shot BP-ness, so he could be killed tonight.

[Mr_Ree]

The people getting snuggly in the flavor was me hiding behind you. That wasn't mentioned in the flavor when I targetted AJ. I assume since it was included, it was significant. There was a kill when I targetted AJ, it wasn't mentioned. There was no kills the last two nights, when I targetted you. The flavor had us bumming together both nights. Easy to draw a connection.

[Mr_Ree]

*Bunking together

Damn autocorrect lol

[Yates]

Sorry, as usual I'm LA over the weekend.

That said, this post needs to be addressed immediately:

The people getting snuggly in the flavor was me hiding behind you

. That wasn't mentioned in the flavor when I targetted AJ. I assume since it was included, it was significant. There was a kill when I targetted AJ, it wasn't mentioned. There was no kills the last two nights, when I targetted you. The flavor had us bumming together both nights. Easy to draw a connection.

Look, we need to stop this line of thought right now. Mods do NOT hint at night actions in flavor posts. I was in Rocky Horror - WITH PIGGY - where we tried to draw conclusions about who scum might be based on flavor. Roles and Characters were truly random and it didn't end well for the Town. Zar had to go back and add this to each death scene "* BELOW SCENE CONTAINS NO CLUES, JUST FLAVOR *"

The fact that Piggy - THIS game's Mod - was a victim of "flavor death" has me fairly confident she wouldn't drop game clues in her flavor either.

[Lord Mhork]

Hi. I'm back. I'll look over this later.

[serrapaladin]

Yates, explain why you think you got no result on both levi and Ree.

[Mr_Ree]

Well, it did make sense. You may be right about not trusting the flavor though.

Let's talk balance. 1 scum or two?

[serrapaladin]

I want to say two, but that leaves the most plausible conclusion of Mhork and I, which is bad, so I hope just one.

[Yates]

Yates, explain why you think you got no result on both levi and Ree.

2 Options on Levi:
1. Traitor result is inconclusive
2. I was blocked

2 Options on Ree:
1. Ree is a Hider and hid so I got no result
2. I was blocked

The result on MM was very clearly Town so I have that as a baseline.

[Yates]

Let's talk balance. 1 scum or two?

I have been thinking two this whole time. However, the presence of a Traitor could indicate that scum were slightly underpowered in terms of numbers. If the last scum is a GF or a RB type of role I suppose 1 could work for balance. It's weird that there has only been ONE kill unless scum have to decide between a kill and an RB?

One thing that is bugging me is that there are a lot of ways to avoid getting NKed this game if you are both being truthful.
- There was the night we commuted - which takes away both an investigation and a scum kill. So that's weighted in favor of the Town.
- I'm BP. So that's in favor of the Town.
- You claim to be a hider. That's in favor of the Town.
- AJ claims to be BP. That's in favor of the Town.
- The Traitor outed himself. That's in favor of the Town.
- The Traitor outed a scum member. That's in favor of the Town.

We are missing something. Is it possible the last "scum" is an arsonist? I may be ignoring my own advice and reading too far into flavor [library fire] but that would ALSO explain a no kill and would have us in a WAY worse situation than we think we are in...