I thought the episode was awesome. I loved the sword fight between Brienne and Jaime. And of course Grandma Tyrell was great.
For the first time though I feel like they crammed a Tyrion scene in just to have him in there. Yes, I get that Shae is reporting to him and all, but it seems like a pretty long and involved way to do this. But a very minor quibble given a high quality episode.
In post 1627, zoraster wrote:I thought the episode was awesome. I loved the sword fight between Brienne and Jaime. And of course Grandma Tyrell was great.
For the first time though I feel like they crammed a Tyrion scene in just to have him in there. Yes, I get that Shae is reporting to him and all, but it seems like a pretty long and involved way to do this. But a very minor quibble given a high quality episode.
Spoiler: A Storm of Swords
Gotta set up Shae's motive for betraying Tyrion, if that's how they're going to portray it in the show.
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In post 1627, zoraster wrote:For the first time though I feel like they crammed a Tyrion scene in just to have him in there. Yes, I get that Shae is reporting to him and all, but it seems like a pretty long and involved way to do this. But a very minor quibble given a high quality episode.
I really disliked that scene.
Also didn't like Catelyn's monologue about it "all being her fault".
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In post 1627, zoraster wrote:For the first time though I feel like they crammed a Tyrion scene in just to have him in there. Yes, I get that Shae is reporting to him and all, but it seems like a pretty long and involved way to do this. But a very minor quibble given a high quality episode.
I really disliked that scene.
Also didn't like Catelyn's monologue about it "all being her fault".
In post 1618, Seacore wrote:Re: Littlefinger. He's my favourite character in the books. Not that I like him as a person mind you, but he's under everybody's radar except Varys's and is playing the long game.
If I tell anybody who hasn't read the books that he's my favourite character they don't understand and I can't blame them. It's nothing wrong with the actor at all, it's the way he's been written, including the awful scene with Cersei and actively managing a brothel.
He actively managed MANY brothels in the books. At least that's the impression I got.
In post 1618, Seacore wrote:Re: Littlefinger. He's my favourite character in the books. Not that I like him as a person mind you, but he's under everybody's radar except Varys's and is playing the long game.
If I tell anybody who hasn't read the books that he's my favourite character they don't understand and I can't blame them. It's nothing wrong with the actor at all, it's the way he's been written, including the awful scene with Cersei and actively managing a brothel.
He actively managed MANY brothels in the books. At least that's the impression I got.
Well then I think you got the wrong impression. I believe he invested in many brothels because whore's rarely sink (unlike ships). I doubt very much that he ran them, I think he just got a percentage of the money.
I agree with most things people said except that I didn't dislike the Tyrion/Shae scene, I think she behaved more like book Shae there than she has in a while and that gave me hope for things to come.
I completely concur with the Catelyn scene, it was awful. I also don't like how Karstark just declared that he lost the war by marrying not-Jeyne when we haven't actually experienced the consequences of that, unlike the immediate consequences in the book.
I adored Lady Olenna already, but I grow even more in love now that I have seen Dame Diana Rigg playing her. Wow, that is a phenomenal scene with Margaery and Sansa.
Tyrion seems to be shoehorned in every week just to keep the illusion that this show has a lead actor.
That being said, this week's episode ruled. The Brienne/Jaime stuff with the Grandma Tyrell stuff was fun as hell, and Margery is slowly becoming one of the more intriguing characters on the show.
In post 1639, Seacore wrote:I agree with most things people said except that I didn't dislike the Tyrion/Shae scene, I think she behaved more like book Shae there than she has in a while and that gave me hope for things to come.
I completely concur with the Catelyn scene, it was awful. I also don't like how Karstark just declared that he lost the war by marrying not-Jeyne when we haven't actually experienced the consequences of that, unlike the immediate consequences in the book.
I liked the Catelyn scene
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Why? What was the purpose? Were we supposed to sympathise with the character? And ignore the fact it's clearly a delusional train of thought? That really she has no obgliation to "love" the bastard as per the westeros society and how they're usually treated? I don't understand what it was supposed to achieve. I mean the whole "I wished death and it was wrong" thing is fine I just didn't really understand the purpose of the scene and how it helps catelyn's character or her get closer to Robb's wife...or yeah.
Edit: It can't be Hoat as he's a member of the Brave Companions who don't seem to be in the show. He's a Bolton man - called Locke.
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In post 1627, zoraster wrote:For the first time though I feel like they crammed a Tyrion scene in just to have him in there. Yes, I get that Shae is reporting to him and all, but it seems like a pretty long and involved way to do this. But a very minor quibble given a high quality episode.
I really disliked that scene.
Also didn't like Catelyn's monologue about it "all being her fault".
The Catelyn scene was pretty bad. I thought there was an interaction between Jeyne and Cat in the books that they could have used and it would have felt better.
Spoiler: All Books
My two cents: they are definitely changing how Cat's character evolves (ie. she's going crazy pre-RW) so that Lady Stoneheart makes more sense to the viewers. I'm not sure I would have included some bit about her praying for Jon Snow. I think it would have been more appropriate if she had just said that she had made the dreamcatcher thing so her other children wouldn't get the pox, and prayed that Jon Snow would die.
Overall the writing in that scene was pretty sub-par.
As to the scene with the Queen of Thorns, I thought that the pacing and editing were really off, the direction was bland, and the whole scene was underacted. The lines were all there, but I didn't feel Sansa's terror the same way I did in the books. If there had been more pauses in the dialogue and less stale camera work, I think that scene would have come off superb. As it is, I thought it was one of the two weakest points in the episode (along with the Catelyn scene).
In post 1646, Faraday wrote:Margaery is awesome btw I really can't stress that enough.
For real.
And yeah that queen of thorns scene is one of the best in the book imo, wasn't nearly as good.
Joff's wedding doesn't happen till next season, and they had some band write a song called bear and maiden fair, so I think we might get another similar scene later on.
