In post 108, Otolia wrote:
Another post that I don't like even thought I'm agreeing with the opinion overall (on the noob part, on the fact that Day1 focus are tougher to read further in the game) however I don't see why any townie would agree so easily to lynch someone. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to lynch someone you vote for him or you openly express your intentions. Being clear and limpid to read is paramount to good VT play : going with the flow (agreeing but remaining rather passive) is a good disguise.
I wasn't too much happy about the first bandwagon but after seeing the aforementioned by Meowmix, I consider it's worth a shot. After the next vote-count mine will be on Meowmix.
I'm not quite sure what you don't like about it. My opinion on MM, as I stated, is that I don't have a concrete read on him, but would be willing to lynch him if nothing better comes up. If I wanted to go with the flow, I would have voted for MM. The BW on him was already going strong, and the people on it weren't being questioned too much. If anything, I daresay the fact that I'm still on the fence about someone who would be an "easy lynch" (for scum trying to drive a lynch onto town) is a towntell.
In post 114, havingfitz wrote:
@auspicious...what about my vote on MeowMix do you find suspect? And how are you differentiating suspicions or not wrt the USC and Super votes on MeowMix?
As I believe I've said already, Syr/USC's votes on MM seemed reasonable, thought out, and town. Super's and yours - not so much. The difference between my read on you and my lack of a read on Super is gut.
I agree with goodmorning that auspicious' post 84 deserved comment. I don't like it. For one...he's OK with a lynch on the person he suspects me for suspecting.
There's a certain amount of realism that needs to be present in this game; the optimal lynch today, in my opinion, is you. However, I realize that the amount of people willing to vote with me might not be enough for a lynch. I would be willing to settle for MM today, as there
is
a chance that he's scum/SK. If people think that's a scumtell, then fine, they can think that.
Plus, like I said before, no real team reads yet, etc.
@auspicious...is the part of your scum read on me that isn't gut/intuition solely based on my suspicions/vote on MeowMix?
Yes.
So VOTE: auspicious
Hemming and hawing around suspecting me, not willing to commit to a vote (on me or anyone else ftm), and his post 84. His reasons for rationalizing his tacit support to a MM lynch are just one big cop out.
I almost hate to admit it, but this is actually making you look more town to me. Lmfao. I feel like you'd take a more pacifistic route if you were scum.
Yes, I do realize how bad that sounds, considering that I'm taking the pacifistic route right now.
Yeah, while I of course am able to see my actions as towntells because of my perspective, I suppose I understand your reasons for voting me.
I really don't know what to say in regards to a "defense". This is my playstyle; I settle for lynches and poke around based on gut. You can even check Jungle Republic for confirmation of that (at least the first part).
In post 115, Syryana wrote:
This is the most self-deprecating post I've seen in quite some time. This posts boils down to "I'm not sure, I'm not that good, I'm not sure, my reads are purely based on gut." Seems like a pretty easy way to slide by without having to justify your reads. You, sir, now have my attention.
I'm not sure what's so self-deprecating about it. I realize that I'm new to MS and am still learning the meta of it/peoples opinions on several things (one of those being gut), so that shows in my posts.
Another thing: I'm rarely able to justify my reads; especially as town. This comes from playing a lot of EM, where justification takes thought, and there isn't much time to give thought to a game.
The scumteam is MeowMix and Manfred. Auspicious is the serial killer. Manfred and Auspicious are interchangeable, but I prefer Aus as the SK simply due to his "I'd rather lynch scum today" and pointing out that there is a serial killer in the game.
I'm not sure how you get "auspicious is the serial killer" from my pointing out that we can't get real team reads yet.
In post 126, Superdeclan wrote:
In post 66, auspicious wrote:However, Super's and havingfitz's votes on Meow don't look good at all.
doesn't feel right. Why are me and havingfitz votes on mm wose then USC or Syryana?
Like I said, USC and Syr largely justified their votes, and obviously thought them out (especially Syr). You did too, to an extent, and havingfitz did little to none.
In post 81, auspicious wrote:I actually read DCLXVI's vote as town, and I'm thinking roughly the same thing as he is in regards to who's scum (havingfitz). I don't necessarily see it for the same reasons he does, but I think he's town all the same.
so you just think 666 is town because he voted the same person as you?
You're putting words in my mouth. I think the fact that he dares to put out a vote at this time for a legitimate reason makes him town. It helps that he's voting the same person as I was going to, but it doesn't make much of a difference.
then why weren't you voting him if you think he's a good lynch? Worried you'll lose your scumbuddy?
He's not a
good
lynch, he's an
adequate
lynch. There's a difference.
The way you take my (at least I think) harmless actions and try to demonize me with them seriously concerns me.
VOTE: Superdeclan
I don't think a townie would make such hasty assumptions.
The bolded say that you KNOW mm is town. I see this as a scumslip
The slip at the end really warrants a vote. I now belive that Auspicious is scum and he might be wifoming about mm
UNVOTE: MM
VOTE: Auspicious
The idea of slips in this context is completely ridiculous; always has been, always will be. It's something I fought over at EM too, and for good reason.
While the other votes on me were ~understandable~ to an extent, yours is actually a bit frustrating. If you are town, you apparently can't read and have no grasp whatsoever on logic.
In any case, you seem to have gotten a rise out of me. Good job!!!
