Mini 1430 - Pokémon uPick Mafia (Game Over!)

[Baby Spice]

We should probably ask for results now.

[Glork]

Really, I'd lynch either of Baby/Wisdom. Commuter with this much soft-information roles screams scum, and my opinion of Wisdom is well documented.

There are 5 claimed/dead info roles. At least one (and probably two) are scum. And a least one of te commuter/ascetic is definitely scum.

From where I'm sitting, it's probably Baby, Wisdom, and either of Serra/Seanald. Thankfully, we have one lych to give, so the game is pretty elementary at this point.

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy and Hyp, don't claim your Pokemon abilities until Wisdom clarifies his role as claims his results.

I already did.

[Glork]

Oh right, I missed that post. Welp.

What are your thoughts at this point, fuzzy?

[fuzzybutternut]

My thoughts? Hmm.
I agree with you on the commuter. I'd like to hear Wisdom's results, though.

I'm inclined to believe your claim, because, in my first Upick (which was a quote Upick) I chose a quote from MewTwo, which should've been a badass role, and I got VT. I guess it's just something mods do.

[Wisdom]

Seriously Glork? Can't you think of a reason why I wanted to claim after certain people?

[serrapaladin]

Wisdom, there is no reason for you to want everyone's abilities though. There would have been clever ways to cross-confirm results...

[Wisdom]

Anyway, I used it only on N2, on Limo. He indeed has Mean Look.

I wanted Limo to claim first because if he claimed anything that wasn't in Gastly or Zubat evolution lines he would be lying.
I wanted fuzzy and Glork to claim before me to ensure none of them have Mean Look and my investigation was redirected to them.

I think I made it too obvious however, so any chance of him claiming a different Poke/ability was lost.

Besides, Limo wanting me to claim before him told me that he probably knew I investigated him and had some kind of result on him.

[serrapaladin]

But wanting EVERYONE to claim abilities destroys any chance of confirming your role. Which is bullshit.

[Wisdom]

Oh, I forgot to mention it was 1-shot, which is why I didn't use it on N1.
It's not like I would have a chance to confirm it anyway.

[serrapaladin]

That's not what I got from 1157.

[serrapaladin]

Anyway, I used it only on N2

This didn't really sound like it's 1-shot.

[Wisdom]

Well, it is.

[Aj The Epic]

serrapaladin - Voltorb - Explosion (Ascetic Townie)

Hyperion - Arcanine -

???

(Tracker)

Seanald - Alakazam - 1x Future Sight (Watcher) / 1x Psybeam (Redirect) / 1 x Disable (Roleblock) [Even Night JOAT]
Baby Spice - Charmander - x Smokescreen (Commuter)
Glork - Geodude- 1x Magnitude (Neighborizer)

(how the hell does that work?)

Aj the Epic - Hypno - Psychic (Messenger)

Limo - Gengar - Mean Look (Non consecutive Watcher)

Wisdom - Eevee - Focus Energy (Ability Cop)

fuzzybutternut - Moltres -Endure (Vengeful Townie)

See, it's odd that babyspice would claim so early if she was scum, though. And so easily at that. Most likely, scum is in Wisdom/Limo/BS...

[Aj The Epic]

And not sure how Limo got labeled green... I was supposed to label Glork green.

[Glork]

Seriously Glork? Can't you think of a reason why I wanted to claim after certain people?

Even as scum, what would cause someone to want/need to lie about their Pokemon ability?

The sudden 1-shot-ness claim after my/fuzzy's analysis really sounds like a ploy to make the role sound more believable and protown. If you were really 1-shot, there was no reason to demand my/fuzzy/Hyp's abilities AFTER LIMO HAD ALREADY CLAIMED MEAN LOOK.

Then your target claimed his ability.
Then you claimed WITHOUT THE ONE-SHOT MODIFIER.
Then you demanded ability claims from three OTHER people.
Then fuzzy and I discussed the claims.
Then you were suddenly 1-shot and used it on he guy who fully claimed before you had claimed or demanded abilities from everyone else.

Nope. You're almost certainly lying somewhere in here.

[Wisdom]

Well what's certain is that scum probably have some PRs too. The watcher being a scum watcher makes sense, there was one in the last Pokemon Upick I played too. That's if Mean Look is actually watcher, because tbh I was speculating that it's Strongman or something.
Other things that make it weird is
- There's already a watcher (Seanald's 1shot)
- The tracker isn't non consecutive (he gave results from both nights), so why would the watcher be?

And also I believe that at one out of the Messenger and the Neighborizer should be scum, and I'm leaning Glork.

[Wisdom]

Even as scum, what would cause someone to want/need to lie about their Pokemon ability?

In the last Pokemon Upick I played, scum had prepared fake claims to use, which included different Pokemon than the ones they had.

The sudden 1-shot-ness claim after my/fuzzy's analysis really sounds like a ploy to make the role sound more believable and protown. If you were really 1-shot, there was no reason to demand my/fuzzy/Hyp's abilities AFTER LIMO HAD ALREADY CLAIMED MEAN LOOK.

I "demanded" the abilities to complete the table, not for my own usage. All I cared about was Limo's claim.

[serrapaladin]

Well yeah, one of Seanald and Limo is almost certainly scum.

Seanald, care to claim your night action?

I don't really like Wisdom's claim. No breadcrumb for Mean Look, either...

fuzzy and hyp are town.

[Wisdom]

Well you had plenty of breadcrumbs yesterday though. You even asked me why I care about abilities so much.

[serrapaladin]

But that could just as well mean you have a well-thought-out fakeclaim. None of the other roles mention the flavor and given that some of the moves have little relation to the ability, I'm doubtful.

[Wisdom]

Other than Magnitude (which may as well be fake), all other abilities fit their role more or less.

[Wisdom]

Also, why would I breadcrumb Mean Look when I wanted to catch Limo lying about it?

[serrapaladin]

To confirm yourself.

[Wisdom]

I didn't feel any need to confirm myself. Catching Limo was more important.