Mini 1431: The Tenements (Game Over)

Syryana · Post Post #975 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:26 am

In post 972, WT Snacks wrote:I like the part where you threaten to change your read because you're mad. Real strong town play.

I had to laugh that you of all people are taking her to task for anti-town play.

WT Snacks wrote:
Slandaar, havingfitz, CooLDoG, The Rufflig

The chance of this wagon being all townies approaches 0%.

I'd have to agree. I'm gonna go ISO these guys.

4nxi3ty · Post Post #976 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:35 am

MrObvious

(4)

- Slandaar, havingfitz, CooLDoG, The Rufflig
Slandaar (1) - MrObvious
CooLDoG (2) - WT Snacks, Syryana

Not voting (1) - ArcAngel9

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: (expired on 2013-04-25 13:37:58)

havingfitz · Post Post #977 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:25 pm

In post 956, Syryana wrote:
In post 955, havingfitz wrote:
In post 945, 4nxi3ty wrote:
prodding havingfitz

#$%!

Mod...please consider me v/LA on weekends.

Why is CoolDog being run up? Are there legitimate reasons?

Cliff notes:
Obv claimed dayvig,
CD and Obv claim to have items stolen. One is lying. Lynch one to prove alignment on the other.

I missed this part.

UNVOTE:

Will look things over again tomorrow and vote accordingly.

WT Snacks · Post Post #978 (ISO) » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:44 pm

Yeah you stuck your neck out, didn't get the mislynch, and now you need to retreat into your QT to discuss strategy.

Slandaar · Post Post #979 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:17 am

In post 974, MrObvious wrote:
In post 959, Slandaar wrote:Obvious: did you know beforehand that when you kill someone their alignment would be hidden?

Yes.

Why would you ever use it then? you must understand how bad this is if you hit town; the person who you killeds posts are useless you can't look at their interactions or their wagon(s) etc and it makes VCA useless all because we do not KNOW their alignment. It makes the town more uninformed than normal.

And then the question arises from that; Would town ever have such a role?

havingfitz · Post Post #980 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:32 am

Ok...just read pg 37. Lots of good info there. I can't see scum having an added daykill. Not sure how clear WT and MrObv are but I'm convinced MrObv at a minimum isn't mafia...and I know WT didn't target anyone, which with only 2 mafia left.. .presumably...increases odds he isn't mafia. So content/resigned to stay away from both of them. MrObv more so than WT.

VOTE: CoolDog

WT Snacks · Post Post #981 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:27 am

In post 979, Slandaar wrote:
In post 974, MrObvious wrote:
In post 959, Slandaar wrote:Obvious: did you know beforehand that when you kill someone their alignment would be hidden?

Yes.

Why would you ever use it then? you must understand how bad this is if you hit town; the person who you killeds posts are useless you can't look at their interactions or their wagon(s) etc and it makes VCA useless all because we do not KNOW their alignment. It makes the town more uninformed than normal.

And then the question arises from that; Would town ever have such a role?

Slandaar is still trying to push through the MrObv wagon. This is a stupid argument, if we’re going to speculate about game setup what seems more likely, town has a dayvig that doesn’t reveal alignment? Or scum has an added daykill?

Nice try scum, you can't weasel your way out of this one.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Slandaar

Slandaar · Post Post #982 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:59 am

I think hes some kind of an SK actually.

CooLDoG · Post Post #983 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:40 am

In post 946, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 911, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 908, MrObvious wrote:

In post 907, CooLDoG wrote:
TWO PEOPLE GOT SHIT STOLEN???? DOES NOT COMPUTE. YOU STOLE MY MOTHER FUCKING THING.

I didn't steal shit. I salvaged the first night and got metal scraps. Someone stole them last night and I tried to salvage again, but the action failed. I now have no items.

Sure you do. What about that prophetic augmentation??? How did you get that? hm?

^ This right here. Either CoolDog or MrObvious is lying. I will not support any other lynch today.

VOTE: MrObvious]

100% agree. I am 100% willing to take one for the team on this one. My reads are usually wrong and And I'm probably a distraction. Here is the deal though. WHEN I FLIP TENANT YOU MUST KILL OBVIOUS WITH THE FUCKING FLAMES OF HELL TOMORROW. I will stalk your games and policy lynch any dipshits who don't. period.

In post 960, Slandaar wrote:And lets talk hypothetically, lets say you are town, why would you target me for the kill?

he is bullshitting you.

also, wt snaks vote basically is a scum claim at this point. Because there is no reason on earth not to lynch one of me or obvious. Any other vote is 100% unproductive and can not come from town. Unless that town is a genuine dipshit.

Lynch order if I get lynched has to go like this:
obvious->snacks->game over.

havingfitz · Post Post #984 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:34 am

Cooldog. Why would scum have a daykill? And be linked to another player and breadcrumbed? And even if WT were some 3rd party that didn't have a town win-con...why would they be linked to another player and a scum player at that? I could see one of them perhaps being anti-town but not both.

MrObv...having a bullet proof-esque ability doesn't make Slandaar scum...especially in a game with at least 2 killing entities. So why is Slandaar scum?

And Slandaar and Ruffig..are you voting MrObv because you think is is scum (I doubt it) or an SK? If he isn't mafia mafia would be crazy not to eliminate him so why focus on him today? Let that role resolve itself.

MrObv...why did you target Slandaar N1 instead of Ruffig

WT Snacks · Post Post #985 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:15 am

CooLDoG wrote:
In post 946, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 911, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 908, MrObvious wrote:

In post 907, CooLDoG wrote:
TWO PEOPLE GOT SHIT STOLEN???? DOES NOT COMPUTE. YOU STOLE MY MOTHER FUCKING THING.

I didn't steal shit. I salvaged the first night and got metal scraps. Someone stole them last night and I tried to salvage again, but the action failed. I now have no items.

Sure you do. What about that prophetic augmentation??? How did you get that? hm?

^ This right here. Either CoolDog or MrObvious is lying. I will not support any other lynch today.

VOTE: MrObvious]

100% agree. I am 100% willing to take one for the team on this one. My reads are usually wrong and And I'm probably a distraction. Here is the deal though. WHEN I FLIP TENANT YOU MUST KILL OBVIOUS WITH THE FUCKING FLAMES OF HELL TOMORROW. I will stalk your games and policy lynch any dipshits who don't. period.

In post 960, Slandaar wrote:And lets talk hypothetically, lets say you are town, why would you target me for the kill?

he is bullshitting you.

also, wt snaks vote basically is a scum claim at this point. Because there is no reason on earth not to lynch one of me or obvious. Any other vote is 100% unproductive and can not come from town. Unless that town is a genuine dipshit.

Lynch order if I get lynched has to go like this:
obvious->snacks->game over.

This is all setup speculation with nothing to go on. It's certainly possible that two people had items stolen since we have no idea which role(s) have the ability to steal items.

It all seem very weak. You claim that MrObvious has your item, he says he doesn't, therefore we

must

lynch one of them?

If I say you're scum and you say you're town, does that mean we

must

lynch one of us since one of us is lying? Do you have any reason to think its MrObvious that has your item?

WT Snacks · Post Post #986 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:16 am

This far into the game we should be able to build stronger cases than "I think he stole my shit, he says no therefore lets lynch us to find out."

CooLDoG · Post Post #987 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:07 am

Yeah, wt snacks should basically be ignored for the rest of the game. Nothing he says could ever atone for the stupid that was in his vote.

ArcAngel9 · Post Post #988 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:09 am

I am not interested on MrObvious wagon,
I am neutral about Slaandar
As much as i am not the fan of this person, I think WT snacks is town.
Fitz, I am not really sure about him, I know he is capable of bussing his scummate, so i am wondering if his shift from Mr Obvious and CoolDog perhaps to earn some town cred or so.

anyways, for now... my vote is on VOTE: CoolDoG

The Rufflig · Post Post #989 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:15 am

In post 985, WT Snacks wrote:If I say you're scum and you say you're town, does that mean we must lynch one of us since one of us is lying? Do you have any reason to think its MrObvious that has your item?

That's a bit of a distortion. A better analogy would be If I say I am a cop and that you are scum and you say that you are town, does that mean we must lynch one of us since one of us is lying?

Keep in mind, MrObvious claimed what items he had received this game -- CoolDog claims to be able to see and steal other players items. CoolDog claims to have seen an item in MrObvious' possession that MrObvious did not mention. This isn't a mere matter of an opinion that someone is scum. We're dealing with facts now.

WT Snacks · Post Post #990 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:21 am

Where did CD claim this? I missed it.

MrObvious · Post Post #991 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:07 pm

In post 981, WT Snacks wrote:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Slandaar

Get back on Cooldog, we can deal with Slandaar tomorrow. Cooldog is lying scum.

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In post 982, Slandaar wrote:I think hes some kind of an SK actually.

Think again, my role is typed in green.

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In post 984, havingfitz wrote:
MrObv...why did you target Slandaar N1 instead of Ruffig

He was tunneling me.

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In post 990, WT Snacks wrote:Where did CD claim this? I missed it.

He didn't. Rufflig is full of shit. And anyone listening to and believing Cooldog while he talks out of his ass is either scum or the most severe case of VI I've ever witnessed.

CooLDoG · Post Post #992 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:12 pm

In post 990, WT Snacks wrote:Where did CD claim this? I missed it.

he didn't because I think I remember claiming tenatnt/vt.

The Rufflig · Post Post #993 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:45 pm

UNVOTE:

In post 990, WT Snacks wrote:Where did CD claim this? I missed it.

This

In post 911, CooLDoG wrote:Sure you do. What about that prophetic augmentation??? How did you get that? hm?

plus this

In post 911, CooLDoG wrote:PLUS. NOT EVERYTHING IS STOLLEN JUST ONE THING. AND IT DOESN'T STEAL YOUR GODDAMN ITEM THAT YOU JUST GOT TONIGHT. BECAUSE IT IS ONLY ONE ITEM.

Where CoolDog is telling us part of how the steal mechanism works.

How else are you suppose to interpret that?

MrObvious · Post Post #994 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:06 pm

Ruff, are you going to argue with the man himself?

In post 992, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 990, WT Snacks wrote:Where did CD claim this? I missed it.
he didn't because I think I remember claiming tenatnt/vt.

MrObvious · Post Post #995 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:07 pm

In post 993, The Rufflig wrote: How else are you suppose to interpret that?

That is an example of talking out of one's ass.

Syryana · Post Post #996 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:40 pm

More to the point:

In post 992, CooLDoG wrote:
In post 990, WT Snacks wrote:Where did CD claim this? I missed it.
he didn't because I think I remember claiming tenatnt/vt.

In post 993, The Rufflig wrote:This
In post 911, CooLDoG wrote:Sure you do. What about that prophetic augmentation??? How did you get that? hm?
plus this
In post 911, CooLDoG wrote:PLUS. NOT EVERYTHING IS STOLLEN JUST ONE THING. AND IT DOESN'T STEAL YOUR GODDAMN ITEM THAT YOU JUST GOT TONIGHT. BECAUSE IT IS ONLY ONE ITEM.
Where CoolDog is telling us part of how the steal mechanism works.

How else are you suppose to interpret that?

There's this thing, it's called a lie. If he was a VT/Tenant, he wouldn't know how the steal mechanism works nor would he know MrObv has his item.

Slandaar · Post Post #997 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:31 am

If anyone stole an item last night I think they need to claim.

havingfitz · Post Post #998 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:40 am

In post 984, havingfitz wrote:Cooldog. Why would scum have a daykill? And be linked to another player and breadcrumbed? And even if WT were some 3rd party that didn't have a town win-con...why would they be linked to another player and a scum player at that? I could see one of them perhaps being anti-town but not both.

MrObv...having a bullet proof-esque ability doesn't make Slandaar scum...especially in a game with at least 2 killing entities. So why is Slandaar scum?

And Slandaar and Ruffig..are you voting MrObv because you think is is scum (I doubt it) or an SK? If he isn't mafia mafia would be crazy not to eliminate him so why focus on him today? Let that role resolve itself.

^^^^^

havingfitz · Post Post #999 (ISO) » Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:43 am

In post 991, MrObvious wrote:
In post 981, WT Snacks wrote: UNVOTE: VOTE: Slandaar
Get back on Cooldog, we can deal with Slandaar tomorrow. Cooldog is lying scum.

So why aren't you voting him?