Micro 151: Mafia in New-Newbie Land (Game over!)

[Xegarus]

Anyone else find it out that moth posted this but didnt say shit about anything else that was happening at the time?

Xeg, I told you, I'm counting the lurking and the coming in and playing defensively as two separate things.

As for me saying I responded to something when I didn't, I thought I had, but apparently drunk me typed out a post the. Deleted it. That was the night I didn't sleep an ant to work at 3am...

[borkjerfkin]

Majiffy is more likely to be scum than most others, at least imo.

Then why the shit are you saying after all this that you have a null read on him?

@chk -- why do you not want to hammer Wisdom if he's in your most likely scum group?

[borkjerfkin]

Anyone else find it out that moth posted this but didnt say shit about anything else that was happening at the time?

Yeah, Moth has been hovering in this forum all day.

[Xegarus]

Anyone else find it out that moth posted this but didnt say shit about anything else that was happening at the time?

Yeah, Moth has been hovering in this forum all day.

......i said thay....not moth

[Xegarus]

that*

[chkflip]

Xegarus' play here matches what he's done in this game to a T.

Elvis, on the other hand, started off null (and has several connections to you) but has come off as more and more town what with the hunting and the good points.

Why is it ridiculously unlikely? There's nine of us here. There's only like an 11% chance either of them is scum, statistically speaking.

PEDIT: Wisdom, I certainly did, but I like that you're trying ever hard to discredit what little I've given up. Their early game with one another reads like distancing but, since, they've both become strong townreads to me. Doesn't change what I thought of that particular play.

PEDIT2: borkmcgork, I just don't want to hammer him

yet

. I still don't feel confident with the other two names in that group and would like to stretch my time in D1 as long as possible to help give me a better D2 to work off of.

[borkjerfkin]

borkmcgork, I just don't want to hammer him yet.

Ok -- I didn't get that impression since to "avoid a no-lynch" is something I inferred as "no better option available". That's fine.

@Xeg -- yeah I fucked that up, sorry.

[borkjerfkin]

Also I think it's weird that all your teams are people who have interacted heavily with each other.

[Wisdom]

Then why the shit are you saying after all this that you have a null read on him?

bork, you asked for my reads, did you read them..?

[Wisdom]

Why is it ridiculously unlikely? There's nine of us here. There's only like an 11% chance either of them is scum, statistically speaking.

PEDIT: Wisdom, I certainly did, but I like that you're trying ever hard to discredit what little I've given up. Their early game with one another reads like distancing but, since, they've both become strong townreads to me. Doesn't change what I thought of that particular play.

What do you think about their exchange and their cross voting then? Town on town? Any signs that tell you so?

[borkjerfkin]

Oh you had him as null but most people as town. My bad.

[Wisdom]

Yeah, you've said "my bad" at least 2 times now, but you still want to lynch me and you don't think anything's getting you to switch your vote.

[borkjerfkin]

Just because I'm mistaken on a single point does not mean that you're suddenly town.

[Wisdom]

Okay, so what more do you want? Are we clear on the Majiffy thing? Have I made clear who I think is scum and who I want lynched?

[borkjerfkin]

Well, if you're town, I want you to actually start making cogent points on people so I can see your thought process and realize you're town.

If you're scum, well, I want you to die.

[Wisdom]

I don't find it likely that Xegarus and elvis share the same alignment. Their exchange does not look like town on town to me, and I find them being both scum also unlikely because of the extreme distancing. I made a little case on elvis after Mac's request however it was not anything special, and I have made better cases in the past that were proven wrong. However I don't like Xegarus' recent posts at all, not liking his continued tunneling on elvis even at this point, and I particularly dislike the "let's go for the partner" comment, which implies he also considers me scum but doesn't want to hammer, and I really cannot see any town motivation behind that. It's unwise to search for a partner with the other scum alive (because of WIFOM), and it's crazy to risk lynching town when you have "confscum", as Xegarus thinks. So after that, I'm certain I want to lynch Xegarus.

How's that?

[borkjerfkin]

It's a start. I'd like to see what Xeg has to say about it since he's been kinda avoiding talking about you all game.

[Majiffy]

NULL - bork, Wisdom, Jake

MOST LIKELY SCUM - Wisdom, bork, Jake

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Jiff, I assume you're saying I'm Wisdom's scum partner? And regardless of Wisdom's flip, I'm scum and should be lynched tomorrow, right?

If you keep the behavior of the above up, yeah. What the fuck is that, you have 3 players in 2 sections that are clearly contradictory.

[Xegarus]

"let's go for the partner" comment, which implies he also considers me scum but doesn't want to hammer, and I really cannot see any town motivation behind that.

Well, you're wrong here. I was talking under the point that majiffy had you as confirmed scum. Im still not certain about you. Thats why i have not hammered. I also think elvis is scum. Not leaning or anything else. Just scum.

Well this is it for me tonight. On the chance that i dont get the opportunity to post again by the end of the day phase and on the chance that i dont live to day 2.

My reads:

Town
chk
bork

Have no clue about
Maj
Jake

Leaning scum
Wisdom
Moth

Scum
Elvis

[Xegarus]

Anything else youd like to me really quickly ask before i depart?

[Xegarus]

...the fuck did i write.
You know what i mean.

[Wisdom]

That doesn't matter, you still suggested that town should go for the partner instead of lynching who they think is scum. Which is not something town would suggest.

[Wisdom]

Also you didn't include Mac in your reads.

[Xegarus]

That doesn't matter, you still suggested that town should go for the partner instead of lynching who they think is scum. Which is not something town would suggest.

Didnt suggest, i asked. Like literally. I tend to keep the easier tasks till the end as i know i can do them. I have not seen it translated over here at all, mostly due to never being in the correct circumstances. But ok what ever, point against me.


Forgot about mac.....
Town

[Wisdom]

If wisdom is so confirmed scum to you, why not save the easy one for last? Work out the partner first. We have the time to jump onto elvis.

This doesn't seem like asking. You tell him "do that", it's advice/suggestion that this is what you think should happen.