Game of Thrones

[esuriospiritus]

A friend of mine who watches the show and has read all the books has been making foreshadow-y puns at me wrt

Jaime Lannister losing his hand

for a while now. Now I know why.

Spoiler: bad puns

"I gotta hand it to GRRM, reading Jaime's arc around this time was awesome and something I'm really looking forward to watching this season."

and my favorite: "Jaime better count his blessings before he can only count them on one hand."

[zoraster]

if i were just watching the episodes without having read the books, i'd be tempted to sucker punch him every time he thinks he was so clever.

[Venmar]

I'm half way through the first book

Yeah, still slow progress, but it's getting more and more interesting at least.

Small GoT Book Spoiler??????? ( Getting paranoid now )

( Also, interestingly Eddard's leg was shattered by a horse.. not by a spear through the knee )

[nhammen]

Reck is definitely my favourite person to read along with them watching, because of the way he makes predictions.

I agree with this statement, and wanted to post it here to let you know we enjoy your predictions.

[xRECKONERx]

aww u guyz

[Seacore]

Reck is definitely my favourite person to read along with them watching, because of the way he makes predictions.

I agree with this statement, and wanted to post it here to let you know we enjoy your predictions.

Shhh, the first rule of spoiler thread is don't quote spoiler thread.

[Hiraki]

i'm not complaining

but danny has had the same facial expression since the end of season 2

which is basically hulk

[redFF]

good episode,

Spoiler: ep 4

shame they cut mormonts last words though, but show watchers probably don't know him and jorah are related haha

[Faraday]

Didn't they vaguely touch on it this episode, actually?

I thought that was really good - only thing I didn't like was the unneeded convo about Podrick having a huge cock. Which was, uh.

[Faraday]

and DRACARYS

[nhammen]

Some of the additional (non-book) scenes are great. I liked the dialogue between Cersei and Tywin.

"Perhaps you should try stopping him from doing what he wants."
"I will."

I can totally imagine this converstion occuring between the book characters, but since neither Cersei or Tywin are POVs, we don't get it. I can't wait to see more.

PEdit: In the book, his last words were

him forgiving his son

. I also don't like that being cut.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Some of the additional (non-book) scenes are great. I liked the dialogue between Cersei and Tywin.

"Perhaps you should try stopping him from doing what he wants."
"I will."

I can totally imagine this converstion occuring between the book characters, but since neither Cersei or Tywin are POVs, we don't get it. I can't wait to see more.

PEdit: In the book, his last words were

him forgiving his son

. I also don't like that being cut.

Every time Charles Dance appears on screen I get this uncontrollable smile.

[Venmar]

Badass episode, really

sad that Mormont was killed however

, and

Beric looks badass and his voice is amazing

[Ythan]

aww u guyz

The best thing about this show is laughing at your hopes and dreams.

[ChannelDelibird]

Glorious.

[Seacore]

aww u guyz

The best thing about this show is laughing at your hopes and dreams.

Ythan, have you learnt nothing from watching that guy with Theon. You build up the hopes before you dash them.

Keep telling us what you think will happen next Reck.

But seriously, I'm pretty sure you expect to get most things wrong by now, and you continue to post it, which makes me feel you're being a good sport and I genuinely appreciate it.


Best episode so far in my opinion. Great scene for Arya. My wife made a surprised sad sound when the Old Bear went down, so that was nice. She also made an excited cheer when Dany took control, but she had hinted in the last week that she expected that to happen. She figured Theon's buddy was a plant too, she just wasn't sure who he worked for and what he was trying to get out of Theon.

I'm not loving Varys swanning around being the loudest fucking master of whispers I've ever heard of... because I haven't heard of any other masters of whispers, because, I imagine, most of them spend time being subtle.
I know they have to make it obvious for the screen, I know the book Varys still has a penchant for the theatrical, but it feels like it's over the top here.
I did enjoy his man in the box though.

[zoraster]

so upset. My internet went out yesterday, and because I have U-verse, i get my tv through the internet. They're not coming by until "4 to 8" today to fix it, so hopefully they'll rerun the episode on Tuesday or have it available on on demand as I've had trouble getting HBO Go to work

[Iecerint]

GREAT. Dany is particularly great this season.

[xRECKONERx]

Keep telling us what you think will happen next Reck.

But seriously, I'm pretty sure you expect to get most things wrong by now, and you continue to post it, which makes me feel you're being a good sport and I genuinely appreciate it.

Heh, I like speculation! Plus, I understand from your perspective...when I watched all of Lost, then got my friends to watch through, I

loved

hearing their theories and predictions even though they knew they were most likely wrong. It's fun for both parties

Speaking of which... totally fucking called that Olenna Tyrell would try to hook up Sansa with Loras. I didn't expect the Spider to be the one to do it, but I knew it was coming (not sure if I called it here or just IRL). Still not sure how to get a read on Margaery. I still think that the Tyrells as a whole are the most fascinating part of this season, and seeing her get Joffrey to go outside to greet the people against Cersei's wishes was just brilliant. Her whole conversation with Sansa...

I WANT TO BELIEVE

that she's being genuine, but Margaery knows Loras is a cocksmoker, so she's being quite less than genuine.

Jaime is growing on me, quickly. I'm starting to see why everyone who has read the books loves him. His interactions with Brienne are awesome, and I thought I'd just love the day I saw Jaime getting what was coming to him, but now it makes me sad. Touche.

Oh and can I just say

fuck yes Dany

holy shit that scene made me wet myself (ok not really) but holy shitfuck that was badass. Last week all I predicted was "Oh, the dragon will obviously fly back to her" but NOPE it burned bitches alive, that was really awesome. About time we got to see the dragons do their shit. Now, for endless seasons of Dany not getting to Westeros! Huzzah! I really worry that they can find a way to make her feel relevant at all, because it's already getting strained, and I don't see her getting across the sea anytime soon.

In "things I don't give a fuck about" news this week: Fatty McFatFat rescuing incest baby and his pre-teen mother, anything involving the Knight's Watch, Bran having ANOTHER CRAZY DREAM OMFG WUT, Tyrion's squire's massive cock, etc.

In "things that make this the best episode of the season so far" news: Varus gave his backstory and got some pretty badass revenge plan going, Varus was in the episode at all (about to usurp Littlefinger in my heart), the Queen of Thorns being the goddamned Queen of Thorns, Dany's mass murdering dragon fire killing rampage, the whole cave shit with the Hound and Arya (that can only end in badassery), Jaime having a heart, Brienne being Brienne, a scene in which I didn't want to immediately curbstomp Joffrey, and Tywin Lannister: Man of Little Words

this episode ruled

[Iecerint]

I thought Podrick actually DIDN'T have a massive cock, but was just a sex god? Maybe I heard it wrong, since multiple people seem to have heard differently?

I loved the scene where Joffrey told Margaery about the Targaryns women being eaten alive by dragons with fanboy-sadist glee.

[Tierce]

Someone mentioned this on tumblr, and I was glad I wasn't the only one who noticed it on the episode.

Remember when Dany says Valyrian is her mother tongue?

It's not, and I think that line is on purpose; that is, that the producers are not streamlining the Targaryens, but that Dany lied purposefully.

The Targaryens' mother tongue is the Common Tongue. The Targaryens abandoned a lot of traditions from Valyria when they conquered Westeros, and Dany would have been born to the Common Tongue and, most likely, learned Valyrian from Viserys's teachings and/or from the handful of Targaryen loyalists who raised the two siblings. Valyrian is, at best, Dany's second language.

The focus on that scene is not on the exiled uncrowned queen of

Westeros

, but on her

Valyrian

roots. Astapor is an old city: it was a Ghiscari colony that was conquered by Valyria and used as a slave trade nexus. That's why the masters speak Valyrian. Old Ghis was destroyed by dragons of the Valyrian Freehold; the Astapori slave masters know

exactly

how fearful dragons can be, and what the "blood of Valyria" means. In Astapor, and with her Unsullied, Dany does not want to be the little girl from Westeros, but a power in her own right; in Astapor, that means tapping her Valyrian heritage, not her Westerosi-queen one.

Kraznys may well have known she was a Targaryen--I doubt the slave masters do not have spies everywhere--but he thought she had abandoned her cultural heritage. Dany speaking Valyrian and claiming it is her mother language means she wants to conquer not only through fire and blood, but also through history. It's a cunning move, because it gives her an historical precedent: once again, Astapor falls to the hands of "Valyrian" dragons. The other Slaver Cities are also of Ghiscari-Valyrian origin, and this is the might of Valyria come anew to torment them.

[Seacore]

I'm with you Iec, that's how I heard it, but I'm willing to be wrong as I actively didn't care about that scene.

[Faraday]

Oh, yeah, I rewatched it and that was it. he was average sized but a SEX GOD.

[zoraster]

Mother tongue doesn't seem wrong for her. It's not her first tongue but it can still be her mother tongue. Like a second generation polish American might consider polish the mother tongue despite growing up with English first.

[Venmar]

I believe House Targaryen is an old house from the Valyrian Freehold, so technically I do think Valyrian is their "native" or "root" tongue.