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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:21 pm

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In post 998, borkjerfkin wrote:@elvis: I don't like Majiffy, but no that is not a scumslip; I don't put much stock in those freudian tells.

And no, I'm not interested in a case. This was talked to death in twilight yesterday while you didn't care about anything but Xeg.
Tbh I didn't read all that in twilight. I'm not such a fan on speculating before a flip. I was still hoping on xegarus scum although it did look unlikely. :oops:

I was trying to give some more content to help others judge my alignment since I wasn't really that helpful yesterday. The sheer number of pages and xegarus walls caused the game to get away from me.

I will try to come up with more that may be helpful.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:22 pm

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I feel pretty good about mothrax, Jake and bork
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:53 pm

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mothrax, Jake and bork are town.
As much as I liked Mac's unvote because I thought he understood I am not scum, it was a bad thing to do because he didn't vote Xegarus or anyone else and then he disappeared. For that he falls back to null.
Majiffy's play was terrible near the end of the day but the chkflip nightkill maybe means he isn't scum as he would want to push him for a lynch. Or it might be WIFOM.
elvis has a good likelihood of being scum due to her tunneling/exchanges with Xegarus, which did not really look like town on town to me.

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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:55 pm

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Also whoever still has elvis as null, try to read her instead of continuously stating you have her as null.
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:43 am

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So your entire case on me is that I thought xegarus was scum.

Because town can't be wrong?

Also... you were voting and pushing for xegarus lynch too. Have you forgotten that?
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:52 am

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What part of elvis/Xeg did not look like townvtown Wisdom?

I unvoted Wisdom yesterday during a break at work intending to look at all the stuff I'd missed; by the time I came back, nothing I could say would change what had happened. I wasn't actually sure where my vote was going to go and needed a look back at the pages I'd missed during work, but I ended up just going to bed after the hammer.

elvis, who are the scum now?
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:15 am

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I'm definitely going to re-read but not tonight. It's my wedding anniversary and doubt my wife would appreciate that lol
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:19 am

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In post 1004, elvis_knits wrote:So your entire case on me is that I thought xegarus was scum.
Nope, it's also the things I said in , and PoE.

Who is scum, elvis? Your scumread died.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:43 am

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In post 1005, Mac wrote:elvis, who are the scum now?
Mac, who are the scum now? Why do you ask elvis when you didn't provide your reads either?
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:54 am

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In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:Also whoever still has elvis as null, try to read her instead of continuously stating you have her as null.
(Since you're at least partially talking about me here) I'm not sure where you get from "I don't currently have a good read on elvis" to "I'm not trying to get a read on elvis". I'm not going to force or fabricate a read I don't have.
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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:55 am

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In post 1008, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1005, Mac wrote:elvis, who are the scum now?
Mac, who are the scum now? Why do you ask elvis when you didn't provide your reads either?
Because I didn't lock into a single scumread yesterday and push it until it flipped town.
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 1:56 am

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I can't divine much meaningful from the chkflip kill --

on one hand, he was one of Majiffy's targets so it makes less sense for Majiffy to have done it
on the other, Majiffy was one of his targets so it makes more sense for Majiffy to have done it

I'm not sure what else to do with that info =\.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:00 am

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yeah the nk is hard to figure out cause you have to ask yourself

would majiffy scum kill chk and paint himself into a corner or did scum kill chck trying to set up majiffy.

majiffy's switch makes him look bad, but he is an erratic player sometimes. I'm not ruling out Majiffy scum but I honestly don't think he would kill chck. Majiffy likes to argue and he could have easily left chck alive and argued with him all day creating a distraction if he was scum.
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:05 am

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In post 1009, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:Also whoever still has elvis as null, try to read her instead of continuously stating you have her as null.
(Since you're at least partially talking about me here) I'm not sure where you get from "I don't currently have a good read on elvis" to "I'm not trying to get a read on elvis". I'm not going to force or fabricate a read I don't have.
That's fine, but you've said that elvis is null for you quite a few times now so it's starting to be annoying.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:06 am

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In post 1010, Mac wrote:
In post 1008, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1005, Mac wrote:elvis, who are the scum now?
Mac, who are the scum now? Why do you ask elvis when you didn't provide your reads either?
Because I didn't lock into a single scumread yesterday and push it until it flipped town.
Minus the unvoting part you more or less did, but regardless that's no reason for you not to provide your thoughts.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:07 am

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In post 1013, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1009, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 1003, Wisdom wrote:Also whoever still has elvis as null, try to read her instead of continuously stating you have her as null.
(Since you're at least partially talking about me here) I'm not sure where you get from "I don't currently have a good read on elvis" to "I'm not trying to get a read on elvis". I'm not going to force or fabricate a read I don't have.
That's fine, but you've said that elvis is null for you quite a few times now so it's starting to be annoying.
I'm not terribly concerned about whether or not I'm annoying you.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:08 am

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In post 1010, Mac wrote:
In post 1008, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1005, Mac wrote:elvis, who are the scum now?
Mac, who are the scum now? Why do you ask elvis when you didn't provide your reads either?
Because I didn't lock into a single scumread yesterday and push it until it flipped town.
It'd be good if you answered the question anyway.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:08 am

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And yeah, the NK is null. The only thing that I can think of is that even if Majiffy is scum, it was his partner who did the kill, as Majiffy was most likely the JK target and thus he would have been blocked.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:39 am

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In post 1007, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1004, elvis_knits wrote:So your entire case on me is that I thought xegarus was scum.
Nope, it's also the things I said in , and PoE.

Who is scum, elvis? Your scumread died.
I said I feel good about bork jake and moth so two of you, Mac and majiffy.
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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:54 am

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In post 1012, Jake from State Farm wrote:yeah the nk is hard to figure out cause you have to ask yourself

would majiffy scum kill chk and paint himself into a corner or did scum kill chck trying to set up majiffy.

majiffy's switch makes him look bad, but he is an erratic player sometimes. I'm not ruling out Majiffy scum but I honestly don't think he would kill chck. Majiffy likes to argue and he could have easily left chck alive and argued with him all day creating a distraction if he was scum.
Nk speculating is a lot of WIFOM.

I would not rule out majiffyscum wanting to kill chkflip. Scum want to eliminate threats and chkflip was gunning for majiffy.

Also, IMO Pala's behavior was classic town PR. Unvotes xegarus because "it might force a claim." Only noob town PR's worry like that because they are a PR themselves. They're thinking how they would feel in that situation forced to claim. So. Pala being the kill is unsurprising to me. Anybody could have seen that and killed chkflip/pala for it.
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:13 am

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Well I didn't see that, but it's sure interesting that you did.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:14 am

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In post 1018, elvis_knits wrote:two of you, Mac and majiffy.
Any preference?
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:09 am

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In post 1020, Wisdom wrote:Well I didn't see that, but it's sure interesting that you did.
Yes I NKed Pala and I'm giving you my reasoning cause I'm just that stupid
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:10 am

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Or because you're WIFOMing us.
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:10 am

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In post 1021, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1018, elvis_knits wrote:two of you, Mac and majiffy.
Any preference?
I'm not sure yet. I was thinking majiffy most.
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