Mini 1446, Generic Mafia (Game Over)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

"You were answering, ergo you were answering on Zhero's behalf." I don't have a clue how you're coming up with this stuff; how is Zhero even a part of that conversation?

Boring town tells are the best town tells, just fyi.

[JacobSavage]

Votecount 1.6

T S O [3]

- IFM, Cogito Ergo Sum, Bacde

Fegelein [3]

- T S O, Zherom, Palmar

Zhero [2]

- Ankamius, Horus

Horus [2]

- Hoopla, beastcharizard

Palmar [1]

- Human Destroyer

Cognito Ergo Sum [1]

- roflcopter

Not Voting [0]

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-05-08 13:03:53)[/i][/area]

Ankamius is V/LA til Wednesday

IFM has (expired on 2013-05-02 09:08:00) to pick up his prod before replacement.

[Bacde]

I could see CES scum, but I'm pretty sure TSO is like definitely scum

[Palmar]

I quote:
"Also, why the hell would I keep my vote on someone that provided a good defence?"

that's not an explanation as to why my reasoning was poor. I didn't accuse you of being scum because you unvoted me, I accuse you because how you did it.

Get it? not WHAT, but HOW.

Anyway, arguing with scum

look town! I found scum! let's kill it!

[beastcharizard]

There are a lot of wall posts.

UNVOTE:

I will start with that since my voting them had faulty logic.

roflcopter, did you explain why you think CES is scum? If you did i probably just skipped it thinking it was more useless ramblings. Also, it feels like you are trying to persuade Feg and Palmar to vote with you just by calling them town. I think earlier someone said being called town gives one a warm fuzzy feeling. Could you perhaps be trying to use this feeling to your advantage?

If someone asked me a question please refer me to it again. I forgot if/where it was.

[Palmar]

hi beast, join my wagon of justice

[IFM]

Sorry guys. Forgot this game was going on, won't happen again.

I'm liking my TSO vote from RVS more now. Only other game I played with him that he was scum he had a tendency to idle a good bit and was playing very similar to how he has this game.

Fegelein is also another good target for the lynch. It seemed like he was trying to manufacture a reason to switch his votes around and his play so far has been a bit off.

[Zhero]

I think roflcopter might be scum.

[JacobSavage]

Human Destroyer and Hoopla have been prodded. They have (expired on 2013-05-03 10:32:59) to respond before replacement.

[Hoopla]

I think roflcopter might be scum.

i guess i'll get back into the game by asking why on this one? have you played with him before?

~~

on ces - haven't got any town vibes coming from him yet, but it usually takes a while with him.

[T S O]

I could see CES scum, but I'm pretty sure TSO is like definitely scum

Why?

[Horus]

I feel like I've missed something. Why is TSO being voted? Please refer me to an explanation if one has already been given and I'm overlooking it.

I didn't like the feel of his reaction to Bacde's reads in #128, it felt a bit like reaching to impart motivations into Bacde's post that were not apparent. He hadn't pinged my scumdar prior to that, though, so I'm a little confused by the sudden movement against him.

I don't really understand this post because you answered your own question

Fair. Did you have a reason for your scumread on him prior to that post, though?

roflcopter, did you explain why you think CES is scum? If you did i probably just skipped it thinking it was more useless ramblings. Also, it feels like you are trying to persuade Feg and Palmar to vote with you just by calling them town. I think earlier someone said being called town gives one a warm fuzzy feeling. Could you perhaps be trying to use this feeling to your advantage?

Do you agree that "being called town gives one a warm fuzzy feeling" and that scum would try to use this to their advantage? Take ownership of your theories, don't attribute them to someone else.

on ces - haven't got any town vibes coming from him yet, but it usually takes a while with him.

Are you anticipating town vibes?

@Mod:

I'm listed as voting for both Zhero and Palmar. I moved my vote from Palmar to Zhero in post 106.

[Human Destroyer]

Alright, it's GAME TIME

let's see what we got here

[Bacde]

whats up homey

[Human Destroyer]

Sup Bacde

I'm rereading entirely and now I think CES looks kinda bad in his exchange with you

He just gives me that "I'm slapping on reasons to call you scum that don't really exist" vibe

Do you agree?

[Human Destroyer]

Third on a bandwagon, voted before Ank self-voted, and he even though he disapproves of RVS, he continues to do so, as if he has to.

Fair enough. I could get behind this.

Unvote
Vote: Palmar

oh man this is

still terrible

though

[Human Destroyer]

and palmar talking on page 5 how I shouldn't be voting for him based on associations with Horus in addition to my reasons that pertain only to him is pretty bad too

but then fegelein's jump off of him on that same page is just

bad

, especially if palmar is town

[Bacde]

Sup Bacde

I'm rereading entirely and now I think CES looks kinda bad in his exchange with you

He just gives me that "I'm slapping on reasons to call you scum that don't really exist" vibe

Do you agree?

I'm not impressed by CES's play, but it still makes sense from a town perspective

what do you think about T S O

[Human Destroyer]

actually

palmar why didn't you vote me for my "scummy" suspicions of you that you apparently thought was the scummiest thing in the thread, staying on your RVS vote when you said you didn't care for RVS at all, but then when Fegelein moves off your wagon you go straight to voting him?

like I understand why you went to vote him but I don't get why you didn't vote me in the first place, walk me through this please

p-edit: will take a look in a sec

[Human Destroyer]

ok hoopla is town

HD might be scum

lets get more votes on horus wooo

seems like soft omgus there

See I'm not sure where the fuck he gets this OMGUS thing from and he never explains it even when asked to.

Except I'm voting him when Palmar gives me a valid explanation.

Both your cases are silly, so there's not really a 'valid explanation', but the way you say 'when' instead of 'if' really feels like you know Palmar's alignment.

Doubling down on your read of me when called out also feels overdefensive.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Fegelein

As opposed to what? "If Palmar gives me an explanation" implies there's a chance he won't. If he doesn't then he will probably be lynched. That's ridiculous semantics.

I agree with this point actually, Zhero's push here is kinda bad, and if he's scum I don't think TSO would call out his scumbuddy so blatantly on it.

You can only judge a player on his own actions? Not really. If I give you as a townread and I flip scum, we look at you. And I have to say, Horus's wording is hilariously bad in that, it sounds manufactured as fuck and makes him seem like he wants to give the vote and is just waiting for an opportunity.

Scum

Zhero
T S O
Horus

Ok with lynching

Zhero
T S O
Horus

What a stupid post, you just try to reaffirm it by posting it twice. If I'm going to be called scum, at least say why.

I'm not sure if this is town genuinely frustrated by the fact that he's being called scum for no discernible reason or scum frustrated that they've been caught for no discernible reason.

I seriously don't think Zhero is his partner though, at the very least. I could see a TSO/Horus team though? Third could be Palmar or Fegelein at this point.

I could see CES scum, but I'm pretty sure TSO is like definitely scum

Why?

See above

[Human Destroyer]

Is there like a discernible reason for why the Horus wagon broke up?

Cause I'm not seeing it.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Horus

[Horus]

*leaves wagon*

"I don't see why people left that wagon"

*returns to wagon*

I'm missing a link in this chain of thought. Needing out of your Palmar vote?

[Human Destroyer]

*leaves wagon*

"I don't see why people left that wagon"

*returns to wagon*

I'm missing a link in this chain of thought. Needing out of your Palmar vote?

I was never on your wagon in the first place. Herp de derp.

[Horus]

*Checks*

So you weren't. My apologies. The principal of the question remains the same, though: If the original reason for the wagon was good and nothing came up afterward to make you question it, why are you only just now joining the wagon after it's dissipated?

[Bacde]

Are you scum w/ T S O HD?