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Cogito Ergo Sum YARR!
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Hoopla
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mmm, a lot of that case seems to hinge on zhero being scum - or rather, makes more sense if he were.
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beastcharizard Mafia Scum
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To answer the question. Yes I think scum would call someone town just to get their vote for the day. Scum will do anything to keep themselves or their teammates alive.
Hoopla, reiterate why you want the Horus lynch again for me please.
I really don't like roflcopter's play thus far. Something about it just bugs me. They also ignored a whole post basically aimed at them.
I don't see T S O as scum either.
Out of all of the potential lynch suspects I would probably be most comfortable with a Fegelein lynch. His last few posts have not contributed much. Any contributions he has had have had no back up to them. He basically just ignored someone asking for clarification. Also according to the last post count he isn't voting anyone right now even though he has said his suspicions.
I am abstaining from voting for now so that I don't make any mistakes.-
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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Palmar Goon
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Palmar Goon
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Because I had no intention on killing you at the time, I generally don't really care where votes are until I want someone dead.In post 168, Human Destroyer wrote:actually
palmar why didn't you vote me for my "scummy" suspicions of you that you apparently thought was the scummiest thing in the thread, staying on your RVS vote when you said you didn't care for RVS at all, but then when Fegelein moves off your wagon you go straight to voting him?
like I understand why you went to vote him but I don't get why you didn't vote me in the first place, walk me through this please
p-edit: will take a look in a sec
And in response to your other post, it IS bad to try to determine one player's alignment based on another player's actions.-
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Human Destroyer Jack of All Trades
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???In post 205, Palmar wrote:
Because I had no intention on killing you at the time, I generally don't really care where votes are until I want someone dead.In post 168, Human Destroyer wrote:actually
palmar why didn't you vote me for my "scummy" suspicions of you that you apparently thought was the scummiest thing in the thread, staying on your RVS vote when you said you didn't care for RVS at all, but then when Fegelein moves off your wagon you go straight to voting him?
like I understand why you went to vote him but I don't get why you didn't vote me in the first place, walk me through this please
p-edit: will take a look in a sec
And in response to your other post, it IS bad to try to determine one player's alignment based on another player's actions.
So apparently the thing you think is the scummiest thing in thread isn't worth killing?
I'm seriously not following your logic here.Are you ready for this?-
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Ankamius Survivor
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beastcharizard Mafia Scum
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The i don't want to make any mistakes thing is so that I don't somehow cause someone town sided to be lynched. I don't want to be the cause of harming the town. If I was worried about my voting history I would have voted at all during this game. I also agreed i had faulty logic earlier. Am I just accusing myself of being mafia to look less mafia? I know there is a word for that but I for the life of me can't think of it right now.-
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Hoopla
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you were voting him on page 4 stating that you see the logic behind the horus wagon. why are you asking me to clarify something you already understand?In post 202, beastcharizard wrote:Hoopla, reiterate why you want the Horus lynch again for me please.
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rereading his iso, i somehow overlooked post 106, where he claims to have zhero as null and not understand his wagon. in thesamepost, he talks himself onto the zhero wagon, accusing him of opportunism and piggybacking on roflcopter's attack.
this is hypocritical because horus' whole shift is pretty opportunistic (arguably more opportunistic than zhero) when you consider the context of his vote. he was the leading wagon, still under some heat, and zhero was the next best wagon, which was gaining momentum rapidly. it's scum motivated to dredge up weak/hypocritical reasoning to get on a wagon that will take some of the heat away from himself.-
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Hoopla
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Fegelein's #112 reeks.
I'm torn about Palmar and Human Destroyer right now. Human Destroyer's logic in linking Palmar and Horus together is sketchy at best, but Palmar's response is giving me mixed vibes about both of them. HD's link post is really sketchy and gives me scumvibes in of itself, but the explanation Palmar gave is giving me scum feelings as well.
T S O sums up what's wrong with Palmar's explanation pretty well.
Palmar's other posts on the page are giving me more town vibes than scum.
Zhero's #123 is making me feel better about the slot
Fegelein's #124 reeks.
T S O +scumpoints for #128
Palmar's #138 is giving me a good feeling about the slot.
Fegelein's #140 is so fence-sitty it hurts. Palmar makes good points against HD and he agrees with the main point, but it also strikes him as a chainsaw defense. Then later he asks why he'd keep a vote on someone that provided a good defense even though he attributed the vote switch to gut. No.
Fegelein #144: Fegelein confirming his fence-sit
T S O #196: scumvibes
Hoopla makes a lot of sense in #209.
VOTE: Fegelein-
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Zhero Goon
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I have, but I don't know that it's really a meta case. Something feels off in the way he's pushing things. It's a gut read, can't really cite any specific details unfortunately. That said, 198 feels townie in an actual anaysis of the game kinda way, so I'm less sold there anyway.In post 159, Hoopla wrote:i guess i'll get back into the game by asking why on this one? have you played with him before?
Honestly, I kinda got town vibes from him earmarking his own uncertainties there, and detailing his actual thought process.In post 209, Hoopla wrote:rereading his iso, i somehow overlooked post 106, where he claims to have zhero as null and not understand his wagon. in the same post, he talks himself onto the zhero wagon, accusing him of opportunism and piggybacking on roflcopter's attack.
this is hypocritical because horus' whole shift is pretty opportunistic (arguably more opportunistic than zhero) when you consider the context of his vote. he was the leading wagon, still under some heat, and zhero was the next best wagon, which was gaining momentum rapidly. it's scum motivated to dredge up weak/hypocritical reasoning to get on a wagon that will take some of the heat away from himself.-Zhero-
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roflcopter Jack of All Trades
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i'm still waiting for ces to do anything other than imply i suck at this game because i could possibly suspect him and talk about how important scumhunting is
more ces votes
beastcharizard, yes i ignored you. shh. i called palmar and fegelein town because i think they're town. i told them to vote ces because i want him lynched, and because two people i think are town being at each others' throats is the opposite of helpful.-
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T S O Survivor
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You didn't see me as town, so you said I was scum. Would you not put me as null? It seems tacked on because it's a very handy answer. You couldn't seem to find any scummy posts so you used that response instead.In post 197, Bacde wrote:
what is tacked on and coincidental?In post 196, T S O wrote:The naked vote.
Bacde, that seems coincidental and tacked-on. Not town =/= scum. That's a basic definition, and one you know. Not buying that at all.
I don't even know what you are talking about
Fegelein and IFM, please contribute.
@roflcopter: does it make a difference to you that ces has nakedvoted 3 times this game? eg. it's a thing he does?-
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Cogito Ergo Sum YARR!
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TSO-Fegelein looks too good; this is such a classic.In post 214, T S O wrote:Fegelein and IFM, please contribute.
And I'm waiting for you to give reasoning on me that has any depth, 'copter.Scumchat is awesome. Yarr!
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Horus Townie
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Do not like.In post 214, T S O wrote:
You didn't see me as town, so you said I was scum. Would you not put me as null? It seems tacked on because it's a very handy answer. You couldn't seem to find any scummy posts so you used that response instead.In post 197, Bacde wrote:
what is tacked on and coincidental?In post 196, T S O wrote:The naked vote.
Bacde, that seems coincidental and tacked-on. Not town =/= scum. That's a basic definition, and one you know. Not buying that at all.
I don't even know what you are talking about
Fegelein and IFM, please contribute.
@roflcopter: does it make a difference to you that ces has nakedvoted 3 times this game? eg. it's a thing he does?
Fighting for a null read, then deflecting by prodding lurkers and throwing a question roflcopter's way.
Unvote
Vote: T S O
This needs to happen."It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into." –Jonathan Swift
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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Zhero Goon
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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I mean I can see what roflcopter is getting at when he suspects youIn post 215, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
TSO-Fegelein looks too good; this is such a classic.In post 214, T S O wrote:Fegelein and IFM, please contribute.
And I'm waiting for you to give reasoning on me that has any depth, 'copter.
I'm just not convinced
your responses do suck, since you are pretty centered around "why am I scummy" instead of "lets catch scum guys"-
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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sheesh, the lack of town motivation is pretty apparent in this post:In post 214, T S O wrote:
You didn't see me as town, so you said I was scum. Would you not put me as null? It seems tacked on because it's a very handy answer. You couldn't seem to find any scummy posts so you used that response instead.In post 197, Bacde wrote:
what is tacked on and coincidental?In post 196, T S O wrote:The naked vote.
Bacde, that seems coincidental and tacked-on. Not town =/= scum. That's a basic definition, and one you know. Not buying that at all.
I don't even know what you are talking about
Fegelein and IFM, please contribute.
@roflcopter: does it make a difference to you that ces has nakedvoted 3 times this game? eg. it's a thing he does?
1) I haven't done ANYTHING in this game, so I haven't done anything scummy. How did you catch me so fast?
2) Please contribute guys, even though I'm not
3) Random question, possible defense of CES, not directed at finding scum-
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Fegelein Mafia Scum
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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Fegelein Mafia Scum
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I can see TSO as Scum too, not my main scum read.
At the moment, It's Beast. I honestly think that he's taking a backseat here, avoiding pressure and just trying too hard to convince people that he's Town. Looking at his ISO, he has me as a scumread, yet he refuses to vote me. It correlates with his little posting, big posts as to me, over cautious scum, who is being careful where they tread.
Therefore,
VOTE: BeastCharizard
Responding to points made against me now.-
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JacobSavage Mafia Scum
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