Mini 1446, Generic Mafia (Game Over)

[Fegelein]

BTW, my read on Infinity seems to be Town, natural posting, scumhunting, etc.

I'll start by putting my vote on:
VOTE: BeastCharizard

For reasons stated Day 1.

[Infinity 324]

HD townread is mostly PoE. Also the one game I saw him scum he was

really

scummy. Also what I've done so far could have easily come from scum, just saying.

[JacobSavage]

Votecount 2.2

Horus [1]

- Infinity 324[/color]

Human Destroyer [1]

- Bacde[/color]

BeastCharizard [1]

- Fegelein[/color]

Not Voting [9]

- Palmar, roflcopter, Horus, Zhero, BeastCharizard, T S O, Human Destroyer.

With 10 alive, it takes

6

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-05-23 06:25:38)[/i][/area]

[Fegelein]

Ehh, your analysis seems natural enough, and there's a lot of points I agree with.

[Bacde]

just reread the first two pages

DEFINITELY a double-bus going on

VOTE: Zhero

[Human Destroyer]

VOTE: TSO

Yeah, I can't see CES-scum right now. One point is a stretch and the other just doesn't really make sense of the two points on him I could see.

UNVOTE: Fegelein
VOTE: T S O

Let's vote for someone who's actually scummy.

This is actually a really obvious bus vote

also Bacde you unvoted too fast I didn't get to make a witty retort to it

[Human Destroyer]

agree with 336. especially the ces = town/zhero = scum angle.

it's exactly the sort of post you make when a mislynch is about to go through and you don't want to get your hands dirty.

aaaaand zhero's #3

that was easy

[Fegelein]

There's no wonder Hoopla died then. I have to agree with you on TSO and Zhero.

I feel more confident putting my vote on Zhero though, he kept trying to reinforce the point that I was scum, when it was Ankamius doing all the talking. It came across as backseat enforcing.

UNVOTE: Beast
VOTE: Zhero

[Infinity 324]

Why doesn't anyone agree with my Horus gutread The points you're making are good, just I'm 80-85% sure Horus is scum (my gut reads tend to be really good). I'll move my vote if its necessary for a lynch.

[Bacde]

Votecount 1.12

Cognito Ergo Sum [7]

- roflcopter, Bacde, Human Destroyer, Hoopla, T S O, Fegelein, Horus -

LYNCHED

T S O [4]

- IFM, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zhero, Ankamius

Fegelein [1]

- Palmar

Not Voting [1]

- BeastCharizard

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-05-08 13:03:53)

[/i][/area]

Infinity 324 replaces IFM.

actually this VC doesn't support Zhero being scum :/

I mean its possible but unlikely

[Human Destroyer]

Votecount 1.12

Cognito Ergo Sum [7]

- roflcopter, Bacde, Human Destroyer, Hoopla, T S O, Fegelein, Horus -

LYNCHED

T S O [4]

- IFM, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zhero, Ankamius

Fegelein [1]

- Palmar

Not Voting [1]

- BeastCharizard

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-05-08 13:03:53)

[/i][/area]

Infinity 324 replaces IFM.

actually this VC doesn't support Zhero being scum :/

I mean its possible but unlikely

it doesn't really support it nor refute it to be honest

[Fegelein]

Votecount 1.12

Cognito Ergo Sum [7]

- roflcopter, Bacde, Human Destroyer, Hoopla, T S O, Fegelein, Horus -

LYNCHED

T S O [4]

- IFM, Cogito Ergo Sum, Zhero, Ankamius

Fegelein [1]

- Palmar

Not Voting [1]

- BeastCharizard

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-05-08 13:03:53)

[/i][/area]

Infinity 324 replaces IFM.

actually this VC doesn't support Zhero being scum :/

I mean its possible but unlikely

it doesn't really support it nor refute it to be honest

I agree with this, but at least it proves he's not opportunistic scum. He might have bussed TSO to earn towncred, but that's going into the theory zone.

[Human Destroyer]

I agree with this, but at least it proves he's not opportunistic scum. He might have bussed TSO to earn towncred, but that's going into the theory zone.

oh yeah that reminds me of the TSO/Zhero anti-associative tell from earlier

hmmm

[Infinity 324]

Reread the thread. Zhero is town. The people who I think are aligned/not aligned:

Aligned:
Horus & Fegelein
Ankiamus & Fegelein
roflcopter & Bacde

Not aligned:
Horus & Palmar
HD & Horus
Horus & Zhero
beastcharizard & Horus
Ankiamus & TSO

Feel free to ask me to explain any of this. (It has to wait until morning though)

Iso on ankiamus and implications of these will also come in the morning.

[Human Destroyer]

Reread the thread. Zhero is town. The people who I think are aligned/not aligned:

Aligned:
Horus & Fegelein
Ankiamus & Fegelein
roflcopter & Bacde

Not aligned:
Horus & Palmar
HD & Horus
Horus & Zhero
beastcharizard & Horus
Ankiamus & TSO

Feel free to ask me to explain any of this. (It has to wait until morning though)

Iso on ankiamus and implications of these will also come in the morning.

if I read this correctly shouldn't Fegelein be your vote right now?
or am I missing something?

[Bacde]

I'm asking you to explain any of that

preferably all

pedit- thank you HD I was about to get to that

[Palmar]

I actually didn't expect Ankiamus to flip scum, so my previous reads are somewhat off now.

I haven't read the early wagon on Ank again, so I can't remember who did what, but given that it was fairly successful I'm not sure scum had the balls to stop it, most likely simply preferring to stay away.

I don't know though, I still don't have fleshed out reads for now

[Zhero]

Infinity is probably town, and TSO is still the best vote. His CES vote was pretty opportunistic, and Ank's vote on him at the end of the day looks like a bus to me.

VOTE: TSO

[Fegelein]

Infinity is probably town, and TSO is still the best vote. His CES vote was pretty opportunistic, and Ank's vote on him at the end of the day looks like a bus to me.

VOTE: TSO

And yours didn't?

[roflcopter]

vote: zhero

that is all for now

[Zhero]

Infinity is probably town, and TSO is still the best vote. His CES vote was pretty opportunistic, and Ank's vote on him at the end of the day looks like a bus to me.

VOTE: TSO

And yours didn't?

no

[Horus]

Infinity looks Town for jumping in and accusing me after it stopped being cool, though I don't really understand his reads.

Zhero's #333 is still bad.

Vote: Zhero

[Bacde]

Zhero is at L-2

Infinity still hasn't explained his reads or why he isn't voting for fegelein

[Infinity 324]

Yes, that part I mainly got from Ankiamus, who felt like he was trying to find reasons to vote fegel. He's still A gut town read though, so I'm hesitant to vote him now. Basically, I just read through and took notes and didn't have time to analyze it. Explanations:

Zhero - town: 212 in particular was really anti-opportunistic and anti-OMGUS. He also brought up a good point about the CES wagon and I can see how everything he posts could be written from a town mindset. Also gut.

Horus - fegelein: 82 felt like it was trying to dismiss the Horus wagon as an RVS-ish wagon, and moving on, which everyone kinda went along with

Bacde - palmar (idk how I missed this): Basically 61.

Rofl - Bacde: Gut based on the exchange where Rolf convinced Bacde to vote CES, however only really relevant if it's scum-scum, which it isn't.

Horus - palmar: Normally when two scum are on an equal level of scumminess, they either bus or buddy each other. Horus had his vote on Palmar, but palmar had a town read on Horus, making me feel like one is town.

HD - Horus: second paragraph in 177

Horus - zhero: Similar to Horus/palmar, Horus voted zhero but zhero had a townread on Horus.

Beastcharizard - Horus: Horus gave bc a townread without explanation, which is unusual for what I've seen from Horus so far. It seems like buddying to me. (Also I didn't find that post particularly towny) Here is Horus's post.

On my phone & don't have time, I'll finish later.

[beastcharizard]

Infinity, I did jump onto the Horus wagon at the very beginning and then changed later due to better evidence. Horus's post isn't all that well made I will agree with you there but putting us together based on a single post is a little obscure if you ask me. Perhaps you are trying to come in and take any slight scum tells that IFM had done and sweep them under the rug with your super aggressive approach. While that may not be the case it is still a large possibility. Also, I know opinions can change but at first you said Horus and I were not aligned and then you switched to that we were. That is weird to me.