[Mini 1447] Misaligned Malignant Multi-verse Mafia (abandon)

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Votecount 1.21

Riningear (4) - Serrapaladin, FuDuzn, Arc, Nachomamma8
FuDuzn (2) - FourTrouble, Empking
Empking (1) - Riningear
The Central Scrutinizer (1) - Tammy
Whiskers (1) - PimHel
FourTrouble (1) - The Central Scrutinizer

Not Voting (2) - Whiskers, The Avering

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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Jebus is 1/3 God.

[Arc]

I also had to just figure out who God was. I assume Nacho isn't dead since he didn't address it, and therefore isn't God, so I lied, personal wingoal still going.

I just have to keep him alive. That's all.

You get some type of power to keep him alive?

Also, if I wasn't clear, I was shooting at Nacho to make him town, so our claimed Vig could actually shoot something tonight, I did this because I thought God would likely be a town role.

[Arc]

I also had to just figure out who God was. I assume Nacho isn't dead since he didn't address it, and therefore isn't God, so I lied, personal wingoal still going.

I just have to keep him alive. That's all.

You get some type of power to keep him alive?

Also, if I wasn't clear, I was shooting at Nacho to make him town, so our claimed Vig could actually shoot something tonight, I did this because I thought God would likely be a town role.

Note, This is me being curious if he has a power that specifically targets god like mine does. Rin, don't answer this question, I asked because I was curious, not because I want you to full claim at this moment.

[The Avering]

Jebus is 1/3

God

Gob.

FTFY

I think Arc is town for his shenanigan~

Vote: Rin

I don't think Rin is town for

his

shenanigan~

[serrapaladin]

So we have a role that wants God dead, and one that wants to keep him alive?

[riningear]

Rin: Any info on God?

None besides that he exists and that he just has to make it out alive for my wincon. That's all there is to it. I win or lose or get killed in the process due to the course of things.

[Tammy]

I know what my role pm says.

You make me want desperately to vote for you.

Then vote for me.

[Tammy]

Now, if we can play mafia rather than YouTube trolling, there's evidence for any hypothesis. The fact that you being Patrick Bateman is even less likely than you being a vig does not make it likely that you're a vig.

You have not been honest in this game. You have frequently played dumb. You have frequently played hysterical. You have frequently 'misinterpreted' on purpose, and yes you've frequently outright lied. You've been faking all game and my only hope is that you won't get to day three.

But the fact is. I am Patrick Bateman and I am a VIG.

I have been honest in this game. I don't think I've even been dumb in this game. I'm quite a fitz sometimes and frequently misunderstand this. I don't think I've done that once here. One night I let my emotions get away from me when I was stressed and flustered. I have not lied. I have not been fake. You don't want town to make it to day three?

Those are your interpretations but It does not mean you're accurate. If you are town, you need to take a step back. You are so far into the confirmation bias tunnel, there isn't even the tiniest glimmer of light.

But whatever, I'm not discussing this any further. It's not productive and is becoming nothing but a distraction. Its devolving into "no you". You are never going to get me to think my behavior is scum motivated when its not and you are never going to make me think im scum when i know im not. Nacho says your behavior makes you more likely town, so I'm just going to trust in that. If you are town here, you need to start looking for actual scum. You are wasting your time on me.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

So Rin is at -2.

I'd vote to lynch at deadline, probably.

My money is that at least one of these claims is completely bogus.

[Whiskers]

Ok, here's the thing Tammy:

"I'm not scum, I'm not scum!"
Isn't a good defence.
Yes, I'm having a bit of OMGUS since apparently I'm 100% tonight for the shot that

you

have control of, but maybe it would change that if I just yell,
"I'm pro-town! I'm pro-town!"

Empking has made a bunch of points against you in the course of this argument. And yes, many of them are twisting, or WIFOM. But you answering with more WIFOM ("I'm town," "I'm honest," "I'm not dumb," "I'm not fake,") and Appeals to Emotion (your fucking eruption, "Don't you want town to make it to day 3?", "mark anyone on my wagon," emphasizing text in empking's post to try to point out a contradiction that wasn't,) are fucking childish and stupid and scummy.

No, we don't think you're scum... probably. But just about everything empking says with regards to you is a legitimate concern. Your defence so far has largely been "but I'm town, so that's not true."

Fucking
Stop.

[Tammy]

THEN VOTE FOR ME AND LYNCH ME.

[Tammy]

Also whiskers, why are you trying to keep up the distraction? I tell Empking that our argument has devolved into "no you" "yes you" "nuh-uh" and it needs to end because it's not productive.

You walk in here, don't do anything of worth and try to prolong it.

That's scummy.

[Whiskers]

No, we don't think you're scum...

THEN VOTE FOR ME AND LYNCH ME.

Fuck you.

Be nice :/

[Nachomamma8]

Rin: Any info on God?

None besides that he exists and that he just has to make it out alive for my wincon. That's all there is to it. I win or lose or get killed in the process due to the course of things.

So... are you just going to shut down completely now, or...?

So Rin is at -2.

I'd vote to lynch at deadline, probably.

My money is that at least one of these claims is completely bogus.

You still trying to lynch FT?
That's cool I guess.

No, we don't think you're scum...

THEN VOTE FOR ME AND LYNCH ME.

Fuck you.

Why aren't you voting for Rinin?

[Empking]

Nacho: Does your rolename have anything to do with god? (If you don't want to answer that don't)
My current working philosophy of Arc's role is that you were supposed to fakeclaim god after Arc claimed, or otherwise trick Arc into vigging you. If you've something in your PM that bolsters that then that would make Tammy's role not only non-complementary with your role but positively damaging to the Arc-Nacho combination.

[Nachomamma8]

My rolename doesn't have anything to do with god.

[Arc]

When I asked how my shot worked, Jebus said that it didn't end the day but it did trigger a mod scene. So, that'll probably show up the next time he gets on.

I basically wasted my shot to turn Nacho into town, because I'd rather have a town win in this game than not, and God sounds like a town role. Since my shot can ONLY kill god, I'd rather use it to trust nacho than use it to kill a probable townie.

[Arc]

I suggest we don't lynch until he gets on a least, so we can try to use Tammy's shot for the best this night.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Rin: Any info on God?

None besides that he exists and that he just has to make it out alive for my wincon. That's all there is to it. I win or lose or get killed in the process due to the course of things.

So... are you just going to shut down completely now, or...?

So Rin is at -2.

I'd vote to lynch at deadline, probably.

My money is that at least one of these claims is completely bogus.

You still trying to lynch FT?
That's cool I guess.

No, we don't think you're scum...

THEN VOTE FOR ME AND LYNCH ME.

Fuck you.

Why aren't you voting for Rinin?

The case on FT is better than the case on Rinin.

[Whiskers]

Why aren't you voting for Rinin?

Because don't feel I can put my vote on him without looking/being scummy, and because the sooner this Day ends, the sooner I get

shot.

I basically wasted my shot to turn Nacho into town,

...Why?

because I'd rather have a town win in this game than not,

WHY!? What the hell is it with everybody and wanting to be town? Do you think it's just more likely that Town will win? Do you figure that if you pick the side with more people (probably) on it, they'll like you more and not want to lynch you?? Like, really, I don't get the obsession with being town. If you're a 3rd party or unaligned, why do you want to become town as opposed to something else? If "God" seems like a town role to you, who cares? Why don't you want to kill it and leave the game with a win, townies-be-damned?

and God sounds like a town role.

Yes, because in a bastardmod game, roles are always the alignment you'd first think they belong to-- like Patrick Bateman and Adolf Hitler being town.

Since my shot can ONLY kill god, I'd rather use it to trust nacho than use it to kill a probable townie.

Then IMO, you're a fool, or at least you're not confident in your abilities to sus out God.

Also: As Empking said-- that calls Tammy's claim further into question, though not much since, like I already said,

literally everyone could be a vig, it's a fucking theme game you idiots

.

[Nachomamma8]

Because don't feel I can put my vote on him without looking/being scummy, and because the sooner this Day ends, the sooner I get shot.

You're going to get shot unless you can find a way to actually contribute to town.
So what are your reads?

[Tammy]

I'm still down for a TCS lynch, especially since I believe you about your role and feel like I can trust your reads more now. I read through a town game of TCS' last night, and I'm not the best meta researcher person, but he just read differently than he does here.

What do you think of his push on Whiskers for being a Jester? Starting Jester paranoia and being happy with leaving someone alive who is scummy as fuck usually sets my scumdar off completely, but then #333 happened and I started doubting myself a little bit.

I don't follow? 333 was fuduzn saying that whiskers-jester wasn't a bad call.

I will admit to having doubts based on him talking about the VIG shot and placing himself in the possible VIG pool. But then I've seen people like bb and regfan suggest themselves for investigation or lynches before and it makes me wonder. I've never played with TCS before so I don't know if he's the type to go that route as scum.

What is your read on serrapaladin?

Also I just realized that nacho will be able to confirm arc as town. And if he's not town if either of them flips the next one is confirmed. And I really really doubt that arc would do this as scum.

But make sure not to lynch before nacho confirms it, so I know if I need to shoot him tonight or someone else.

[Whiskers]

Because don't feel I can put my vote on him without looking/being scummy, and because the sooner this Day ends, the sooner I get shot.

You're going to get shot unless you can find a way to actually contribute to town.
So what are your reads?

No, I'm going to get shot. There has been no stipulation, I've been given no outs. Since you don't control the bullet, and Tammy doesn't seem interested in fucking discussing anything other than how much she is town at the moment, I'm getting shot.

[Whiskers]

Also I just realized that nacho will be able to confirm arc as town. And if he's not town if either of them flips the next one is confirmed. And I really really doubt that arc would do this as scum.

Yeah, except not. This is stupid:
-If Nacho is now Scum, is he going to out Himself and Arc as scum? No.
-If Nacho is now Town, will him "confirming" himself and Arc as town be anything but WIFOM? No.
-If Nacho and Arc

are

scum now, is scum going to kill them? No.
-If Nacho and Arc

Are

scum now, and they "confirm" to you that they're town, will

YOU

fucking shoot them? No.

So basically-- you just realized nothing.

[Nachomamma8]

I don't follow? 333 was fuduzn saying that whiskers-jester wasn't a bad call.

The fact that someone agreed with moonlogic like that threw me off a bit; if he wasn't the only one thinking it, then it would mean that the jester observation was actually a sign of independent thought, and that would be terrifying.

What is your read on serrapaladin?

I like serra for town. His contributions have been pretty solid compared to everything else going around this game, and I thought the immediate question to the mod in #310 was pretty genuine.