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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:33 am

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This is true...But in a best case scenario, we're only 1 or 2 from lylo...
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:30 pm

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Deadline is Tuesday.

If StD is scum, then if there is a GF, my guess is AndrewS. He has been constantly bandwagoning, and asking why we should even bother talking, but as soon as the wagon starts going towards StD he suddenly cautions against LyLo situations and wants us to think about things. I haven't liked his play this entire game, and the only thing keeping me off him is that investigation.

Lynch StD. Get 'er done.
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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:42 pm

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When all space monkeys die and at least one gorilla survives = my win condition.
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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:45 pm

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:roll:

Why is it people always wait until I make a post like that when they say something helpful? Win condition matches.

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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:58 pm

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unvote
, agreed.

(I had noticed the win condition issue when considering the scum/town being reversed; scum's win condition didn't make sense for an informed minority. I figured I might as well use it for one last shot of info.)

vote Nightson
, this could be Twito instead.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:03 pm

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PJ: I asked why we should bother talking when a player was telling us that he was scum. Even if he wasn't scum, and was just saying he was due to not reading things, he was still a threat because we were nearing the endgame and if he were to put a stray vote on someone at a time in which the mafia could hammer quickly, the game would be over.
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:49 pm

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Still here still voting Fritz.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:53 pm

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I'm not really swayed by StD's win-condition claim. Other than Back to Gambits II, Stoof has presented a "pro-town win condition" in his other games (Mini 211 and Mini 250, as well as Stoof's most recent game over in NY). Obviously he can't present the Gorilla win condition in-thread without raising any alarms, but it leads me to believe that he wouldn't leave the Space Monkeys hanging in the event that we tried to use win conditions to confirm/condemn anybody.
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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:20 pm

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Vote: Glork
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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 6:44 pm

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OMGIS?
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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:46 pm

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Well, to be fair, StD has jumped on Nightson, Fritz, and Glork by this point. I suppose he's consistent with his belief that somebody uinvestigated ought to be lynched (which seems like the obvious thing to do).

I also just had a feeling of deja vu while writing this post, and funnily enough, another feeling of it while writing this sentence. Hrm.

Think I'll go back to a
Vote: Nightson
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:19 pm

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Looking at the voting patterns for today. A few interesting notes (people investigated to be Gorillas are green, instead of red, since it screws with my mind; other players are in orange for emphasis):
Day Five Voting Patterns wrote:
PJ FoS: Glork (I)
Thok votes StD (1)

Glork votes Nightson (1)

PJ votes Glork (1)
Klebian votes Glork (2)

Glork FoS: Fritz (I)
Glork unvotes Nightson (0) and votes Fritz (1)

PJ unvotes Glork (1) and votes Fritz (2)
Thok unvotes StD (0) and votes Nightson (1)
PJ unvotes Fritz (1) and votes Nightson (2)
AndrewS votes Nightson (3)

Fritz votes Nightson (4)
StD votes Nightson (5)

PJ unvotes Nightson (4) and votes StD (1) and FoS: Glork (II)

Glork unvotes Fritzler (0) and votes StD (2)

Thok unvotes Nightson (3) and votes StD (3)

Fritz unvotes Nightson (2) and votes StD (4)
Twito votes Fritz (1)
StD unvotes Nightson (1) and votes Fritz (2)

Klebian unvotes Glork (0) and votes Save the Dragons (5)
PJ unvotes Save the Dragons (4)
Thok unvotes Save the Dragons (3) and votes Nightson (2)

StD unvotes Fritz (1) and votes Glork (1)

PJ votes Nightson (3)
Lack of Votes Notes

1.) Dahen has not voted or really expressed suspicion today (except to hammer Nightson, which was still not a stanceon suspicion). Reason of absences.
2.) Nightson has also not voted today, or expressed any real suspicions. Reason of sickness.

Vote Make-Up Notes

1.) Three of four voters of Fritz {Glork, Twito, StD} are from unconfirmeds.
2.) Three of six voters of Nightson {Glork, Fritz, StD} are from unconfirmeds. Threat of a seventh vote came from a fourth unconfirmed {dahen}.
3.) Two of six voters on StD {Glork, Fritz} are from unconfirmeds.
4.) One of three voters on Glork {StD} are from unconfirmeds.
5.) Zero of zero voters on Twito are from unconfirmeds.
6.) Zero of zero voters on Dahen are from unconfirmeds.

Now to think about this.
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:28 pm

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Bah, I always screw something up.
Vote Make-Up Notes, Fixed wrote:Vote Make-Up Notes
1.) Three of four voters of Fritz {Glork, Twito, StD} are from unconfirmeds.
2.) Three of six voters of Nightson {Glork, Fritz, StD} are from unconfirmeds. Threat of a seventh vote came from a fourth unconfirmed {dahen}.
3.) Two of
six
five voters on StD {Glork, Fritz} are from unconfirmeds.
4.) One of three voters on Glork {StD} are from unconfirmeds.
5.) Zero of zero voters on Twito are from unconfirmeds.
6.) Zero of zero voters on Dahen are from unconfirmeds.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:10 pm

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Okay, first observation:

Fritzler is probably GorillaTown. I just skimmed his posts, and it seems he was playing from the eyes of a Gorilla. Also, the fact that 3/4 of the votes on him today have come from the unconfirmeds (the other vote was mine, and that was because primarily meant as a pressure vote) tells me Fritzler is a likely candidate to be pushed on by scum, since they will need to lynch a number (not sure how many yet) of the unconfirmed players to win.

For the sake of being able to draw further conclusions, I will now repost the Vote Make-Up Notes with Fritz being considered town...
If Fritz is Town Vote Make-Up Notes wrote:1.) Three of four voters of Fritz {Glork, Twito, StD} are from unconfirmeds.
2.) Two of six voters of Nightson {Glork, StD} are from unconfirmeds. Threat of a seventh vote came from a fourth unconfirmed {dahen}.
3.) One of five voters on StD {Glork} are from unconfirmeds.
4.) One of three voters on Glork {StD} are from unconfirmeds.
5.) Zero of zero voters on Twito are from unconfirmeds.
6.) Zero of zero voters on Dahen are from unconfirmeds.
So, now to gather my thoughts, this means I think Dahen + Fritz are town. This leaves scum in {Glork, Twito, StD, and Nightson}.

Glork, who do you think is scum? I want you to give an
individual scum
. I am tired of you trying to post everything with
scum-pairs
, such as "Twito + Fritz", but then willing to vote Nightson (without explanation), shifting to "StD + Nightson", then switching to "Fritz + Nightson", then most recently to "one of Fritz or StD".

This leads to problems, most notably the fact that StD is the person voted by the most confirmed players, which makes it most likely (from an objective standpoint) that StD is scum. If he is a Space Monkey, however, then he was given the Gorilla win condition, or was able to determine what it was.

I can see a {Twito, StD, Nightson} scum-group easier than some of the others I've had in mind. I was originally going to put Glork, but he freaking always makes me doubt myself whenever I read all of his posts. *sigh* Stupid Glork.

I would suggest lynching these three players in some order or another. Deadline is coming, so I'd like everybody to give some input.
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:34 pm

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End of Day 5 Vote Count


Save The Dragons: 3 (Glork, Fritzler, klebian)
Nightson: 3 (AndrewS, Thok, petroleumjelly)
Fritzler: 1 (Twito)
Glork: 1 (STD)

There is a line which separates paraphrasing your role PM (which is allowed) and quoting your role PM (which is not allowed). Unfortunately, when that line is crossed the only thing that the Mod can do is modkill the offender. I hope that Save The Dragons will understand and agree that his post 777 falls on the wrong side of the line.
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:47 pm

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STARDATE 2600.2004:
As the Ship's power-shut down procedures continue, it becomes apparent that there is a problem with the computer -- almost certainly caused by the extensive damage that it suffered during the Gorillas' initial assault. Suddenly there is a loud electrical "CRACK!", followed a moment later by a small explosion. As the lights go off on the bridge, the last thing anyone sees is a jet of flame shoot out from the Ops Console and engulf Save The Dragons. His death-screams are horrible to listen to, but fortunately they last only a few seconds.


Save The Dragons (
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It is now Night 6. Please send in your choices.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:14 am

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STARDATE 1903.1003:
Somehow, the Ship's auto-repair function has managed to eke out a little more power from the highly damaged Dilithium Crystal power plant. The lights come back on the bridge, revealing 8 primates left alive. AndrewS is nowhere to be seen. So presumably that small pile of dust by the Utility Drive Modulator used to be him. Apart from a few wisps of uniform, a couple of hairs, and set of dog-tags, it appears that he has been completely vaporized. Close inspection of the remains reveals that his uniform was the characteristic dark blue of the Gorilla Space Assault Corps.


AndrewS (
Gorilla
) - vaporized night 6.


With him dead, the Galaxy is a little safer. But there is still at least one Gorilla on the bridge of the
SS Simian
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It is now day 6. With 8 alive, it will take 5 of you to push someone out of the airlock.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:02 am

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Twito is a Space Monkey. Before we vote him off, we should analyze what this means.

Also,
FOS Glork
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:04 am

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PJ: Obviously, my top suspect was still StD. I would not have been voting for him if I did not think that he was most likely to be scum.

Right now, I'm not really sure what to think. I agree that Dahen is probably pro-town, so by mere process of elimination, I'm looking at a scumgroup of Fritz, Twito, and Nightson unless there are Godfather-esque factors involved (in which case, I'm actually looking at Klebian now, rather than PJ, as I'm less confident that scums would be given a full Gorilla Soldier PM). Out of everybody, I'm most comfortable with a Nightson lynch, followed by lynches on Twito and Fritz.


That said, we're almost certainly in LyLo now, which is why I'm refraining from voting for anybody at the moment. Thok, I would suggest that you not reveal your target until we've heard everybody weigh in at least once or twice. I want to hear what everybody thinks with five un-investigated players. I think that stronger speculations based on less information will be much more telling for us
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:04 am

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*shakes fist at StD*

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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:05 am

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...and there goes that last suggestion.
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:18 am

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petroleumjelly wrote:*shakes fist at StD*

Result from Thok Thok?
Look at my first post. Twito's the lynch for today.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:24 am

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Day Five Voting Patterns wrote:
PJ FoS: Glork (I)
Thok votes StD (1)

Glork votes Nightson (1)

PJ votes Glork (1)
Klebian votes Glork (2)

Glork FoS: Fritz (I)
Glork unvotes Nightson (0) and votes Fritz (1)

PJ unvotes Glork (1) and votes Fritz (2)
Thok unvotes StD (0) and votes Nightson (1)
PJ unvotes Fritz (1) and votes Nightson (2)
AndrewS votes Nightson (3)

Fritz votes Nightson (4)

StD votes Nightson (5)

PJ unvotes Nightson (4) and votes StD (1) and FoS: Glork (II)

Glork unvotes Fritzler (0) and votes StD (2)

Thok unvotes Nightson (3) and votes StD (3)

Fritz unvotes Nightson (2) and votes StD (4)

Twito votes Fritz (1)

StD unvotes Nightson (1) and votes Fritz (2)

Klebian unvotes Glork (0) and votes StD (5)
PJ unvotes StD (4)
Thok unvotes StD (3) and votes Nightson (2)

StD unvotes Fritz (1) and votes Glork (1)
PJ votes Nightson (3)
Scum: {Glork, Nightson, Twito}

Twito's Votes Throughout the Game: MrBuddyLee [Gorilla], Bird1111 [Gorilla], InHimShallIBe [Gorilla], Masterchief [Gorilla], Fritzler [Unknown]

Glork's Votes Throughout the Game: MrBuddyLee [Gorilla], Bogre/Thok [Gorilla], Sarcastro/Zindaras [Gorilla], Ibaesha/PJ [Gorilla], InHimShallIBe [Gorilla], CES [Space Monkey - but tried to vote PJ, Gorilla], Masterchief [Gorilla].... and yesterday, Nightson [Unknown], Fritzler [Unknown], Save the Dragons [Gorilla]

I think Glork has been trying to constantly pair off one of his scum-partners. He tries to pawn Twito off with Fritz earlier, and even though he proposes such a scum-group, he votes for Fritz over Twito. He also has not really gone after Twito pretty much the entire game.

Glork tried to pair Nightson with Fritzler, and then Save the Dragons. In fact, here are the exact pairings he has tried to show (and this is just lately: it doesn't even consider the bad Zindaras + PJ, MBL + PJ, etc)...

Twito
+ Fritz
StD
+ Nightson
Fritz + Nightson
StD
or Fritz

Lousy Glork. You should have been dead a long time ago. I'll hold off voting so we can have discussion today.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:12 am

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This game is literally hurting my brain right now. No jokes.

PJ's post isn't terribly surprising to me. I was actually hoping that Thok would've investigated
me
last night... it would've saved me a whole lot of trouble. :(

I'll have a response sometime tonight. I have this case study to finish by 6 PM as well as classes to attend.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:28 am

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Glork wrote:This game is literally hurting my brain right now. No jokes.

PJ's post isn't terribly surprising to me. I was actually hoping that Thok would've investigated
me
last night... it would've saved me a whole lot of trouble. :(

I'll have a response sometime tonight. I have this case study to finish by 6 PM as well as classes to attend.
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