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[Sailor Jerry]

And in the space of 2 posts and no extra votes you have gone from

"Please remind me why I'm scum again because I can't be bothered to trawl through all your witterings"

to

"Seriously though... if someone can remind me what I did, I'll do my best to explain it."

Another suspicous little U-turn - a dangerous manouver that often topples baseless bandwagoners.

Yeah that is an incredible piece of scumhunting. I've gone from "Remind me what I did" to "Remind me what I did". The cracks are really starting to show here.

[evilandy]

Tone!

[WldHrtCgd08]

As far as I can tell, WHC never really brought up Sailor Jerry's failure to defend himself (though I can see where you're coming from). It's entirely feasable that WHC simply didn't think about the fact that SJ hasn't posted to defend himself.

That was true. I didn't really bring that into account, because a lot of people weren't posting.

[Mariyta]

I'll get a votecount done tomorrow. Sorry for the lack of mod attention. I didn't think this semester would be as packed as it is. I have 2 11 hour days, 2 9 hour days and a 2 hour day!

[Adele]

Try harder, SJ. You expect everyone to post exactly why they suspect you, post attacks on other players too for parity, and all you have to do is say "oh yeah, that's not proof"? If you wanna defend yourself, you have everything you need right there in the thread - and it's not everyone

else's

job to trawl through and summarise it for you.

vote: Sailor Jerry

for hypocrisy.

[Sailor Jerry]

If you wanna defend yourself, you have everything you need right there in the thread - and it's not everyone

else's

job to trawl through and summarise it for you.

I don't have any special desire to defend myself, in all honesty. I tend to find it easier to just claim. I'm happy to do this in due course. I'd do it now, but experience tells me that this doesn't tend to abate the angry mob, and I'm better off waiting. At least this way the lurkers have to at least

post

, even if you're preventing the idea of them being placed under any pressure :)

I think that in situations like this, where there's really no base to a bandwagon, it's a useful exercise to ask to have the reasons summarized.

The main reason for doing this is because you've all actually forgotten why you're voting me, and are now just doing so from the lack of any other viable option. Asking for a summary would bring home to you all exactly how shaky this bandwagon is.

And beware the peril of voting a player because you don't like his attitude! It doesn't make him scum!

[Adele]

If you wanna defend yourself, you have everything you need right there in the thread - and it's not everyone

else's

job to trawl through and summarise it for you.

I don't have any special desire to defend myself, in all honesty. I tend to find it easier to just claim.

So, you don't even care about what's good play, what's good for your team; you only want to follow the easy route? I'd recommend you look into other forums to play this game on. I hear they have lower standards elsewhere.

[evilandy]

Lurker hunt...

Its now been:
- 6 days since Ameliaslay posted - posted Sunday on another game
- 19 days since ubertimmy posted - posted on Friday on another game
- 28 days since Lucresia posted - seems inactive on the forum

Please mod:

It seems that we need a replacement for Lucresia (is she supposed to be still in the game?) and a prod for Ameliaslay and ubertimmy.

[Sailor Jerry]

Adele - please don't quote me out of context.

I'm telling you that you'll find it a useful exercise to sum up the accusations against me. You'll discover that there wasn't really anything there in the first place.

I'm also telling you that the most useful thing for the town is to cast a wide net and put pressure on more people - as even evilandy appears to be doing. I suppose tenacity is admirable, but don't be blind to other possibilities. Is this a recurring trait in your mafia playing?

Again, I'd politely point out that I think the main reason you're driving my wagon so hard is that you don't like my attitude, rather than the fact that you think I'm scum. Consider whether that's smart play, and whether it meets the "high standards" that this forum apparently demands.

You may even find that my suggestions could be useful were I not forced onto the defensive by people pointlessly campaigning for my lynch, without even entertaining any other possibilities.

unvote, vote: ubertimmy

. This is exactly the sort of lurking that Adele's behavior encourages. ubertimmy's been active in other games I've been in, and is obviously taking advantage of the fact that so few people are required to contribute to this game. This is called lurking, and it's a genuine scumtell.

These are the things we SHOULD be looking for. Let's get on with it.

[Mariyta]

The

The Mod Apologizes for Being Such a Slacker

Vote Count
Ubertimmy (2)- MeMe, Sailor Jerry
Totem (3)- Timmy, Lucresia, Glork
MeMe (1)- Ameliaslay
Sailor Jerry (2)- evilandy, Adele


I will poke Lucresia and Timmy. Deadline will be 2 weeks from today, 2/12/07 at 10pm EST.

[ubertimmy]

Totem voters! Sailor Jerry voters! Lend me your ears!

It has become apparent to me that

both

Totem and Sailor Jerry are scum!

See here how Totem fishes:

I still think the main question we should ask is:
Why somebody wanted to quickly kill Twito?
Somebody used a powerful ability to either stop Twito from doing something or to create confusion and cover something we are missing in the thread. Ubertimmy was the last one to disagree with Twito, but it doesn't look to me as a reason to kill. Maybe it's a delayed kill as Adele stated.

Here is where Sailor Jerry covers his scumbuddies tracks.

I have to agree that I think the idea of wagoning Totem for FOSing everyone is a but silly. Adele's right that it's nonsensical and petulant, but if that's a scumtell then I'm probably scum in every game I'm in

I agree that actively attempting to cast suspicion on everyone is scummy, but a line like "FOS: everybody" cannot really be taken seriously.

unvote, vote: Glork

. For making mountains from molehills.

Based on this and previous evidence, I suggest we lynch one of these fellows posthaste.

I, personally, lean towards Totem being the first lynch, however I am not against a Sailor Jerry lynch.

As to the question of other scumbuddies, I cannot currently say. Perhaps only time will tell.

[Adele]

If we should back off someone because they straight-up tell us that they refuse to contribute (rather than, for example, lurking), what tactic do you think will be picked up by the scum? I can't trust someone who refuses to play the game, and I don't trust you. I believe that you're scum with a bad attitude.

[Adele]

above was aimed at SJ

[Totem]

I second the request to prod/replace Lucretia.

Totem voters! Sailor Jerry voters! Lend me your ears!

All four of them not counting inactive Lucrecia. The rest should skip the post? (irony:off)
Ubertimmy shows up right after being accused of lurking and gives us two targets to choose from instead of putting pressure on him. How convenient. Win win situation for him.

I will go with evilandy and

vote: Ameliaslay

, the next person on lurkers list.

[Glork]

Yeah, Timmy wins this one. I'm also liking my Totemvote, but I'm willing to let Sailor Jerry hang.

[WldHrtCgd08]

I have to agree. After rereading everything I've come to the concusion they are both probably scum. I'm going to go ahead and

vote totem

for now. Then worry about SJ later.

[evilandy]

Well I'm up for either a SJ or WldHrtCgd08 vote. So what you say WldHrtCgd08? You switch your vote to SJ and if he is mafia you are then whiter than white?

[Sailor Jerry]

Totem voters! Sailor Jerry voters! Lend me your ears!

It has become apparent to me that

both

Totem and Sailor Jerry are scum!

See here how Totem fishes:

I still think the main question we should ask is:
Why somebody wanted to quickly kill Twito?
Somebody used a powerful ability to either stop Twito from doing something or to create confusion and cover something we are missing in the thread. Ubertimmy was the last one to disagree with Twito, but it doesn't look to me as a reason to kill. Maybe it's a delayed kill as Adele stated.

Here is where Sailor Jerry covers his scumbuddies tracks.

I have to agree that I think the idea of wagoning Totem for FOSing everyone is a but silly. Adele's right that it's nonsensical and petulant, but if that's a scumtell then I'm probably scum in every game I'm in :)

I agree that actively attempting to cast suspicion on everyone is scummy, but a line like "FOS: everybody" cannot really be taken seriously.

unvote, vote: Glork

. For making mountains from molehills.

Based on this and previous evidence, I suggest we lynch one of these fellows posthaste.

I, personally, lean towards Totem being the first lynch, however I am not against a Sailor Jerry lynch.

As to the question of other scumbuddies, I cannot currently say. Perhaps only time will tell.

Anyone who thinks this post made ubertimmy

less

scummy needs to go and find those other forums of Adele's... the ones with the lower standards in scumhunting...

[WldHrtCgd08]

Well I'm up for either a SJ or WldHrtCgd08 vote. So what you say WldHrtCgd08? You switch your vote to SJ and if he is mafia you are then whiter than white?

Not quite. More like I didn't switch my vote to him, I switched my vote to someone else. I am now suspicious of him, and I was not before.

[Mariyta]

Lucresia has yet to pick up the poke. 24 hours before I look for a replacement.

[Ameliaslay]

I did note my absence in the V/LA thread.. btw. Mock trial Regionals to anyone who cares...
And I really never got a reply from Totem…

I'd recommend you look into other forums to play this game on. I hear they have lower standards elsewhere.

Ouchie… but in sentiment I agree, looking for the easy way out helps no-one.

Well I'm up for either a SJ or WldHrtCgd08 vote. So what you say WldHrtCgd08? You switch your vote to SJ and if he is mafia you are then whiter than white?

Why WldHrtCgd08 again?

I will go with evilandy and vote: Ameliaslay , the next person on lurkers list.

Awfully coincidental that vote

[evilandy]

Initially because in post 137 I asked WldHrtCgd08 to explain her suspicions of me and she never replied.

However now mostly because I detect she is shifting her posture to allow a vote on Sailor Jerry as she notices the winds changing agaisnt him:

Well, the last couple of pages shifting everything to push for a lynch on Sailor Jerry, and I havent really seen anything to be that suspicious.

Then without ever mentioning SJ between these two posts:

I have to agree. After rereading everything I've come to the concusion they are both probably scum. I'm going to go ahead and

vote totem

for now. Then worry about SJ later.

She has done this without ever explaining her reasons for being suspicious of him. So I suspect she is the scum partner of Sailor Jerry and is distancing herself from him.

[ubertimmy]

I still believe Totem is the primary choice for a lynch today. I felt his last post was a sort of demoralizing attack, attempting to get me to unvote by saying LOL LURKER ON WAGON OBV WRONG. then voting a lurker. He didn't even address my attacks on him. Has anyone else noticed that Totem has not commented on Sailor Jerry either?

The two are clearly scum.

Totem's post also seems to suggest that I am scum. Interesting idea, although incorrect. However, Totem, if I am scum, why don't you vote for me?

WHOA. Just reread the page, and uh, Evilandy, what are you TALKING about? WldHrt votes totem... so you attack her for suspecting Sailor Jerry? I can KINDA see that you get that logic there, but.... it really sucks.

I'd rather lynch Totem, SJ is definitely a possible choice.

[evilandy]

I think Totem is too busy trying to appear useful by lurker hunting to even consider voting for you Ubertimmy.

[Glork]

I think Totem is too busy trying to appear useful by lurker hunting....

*coughuberscumtellcough*