Game of Thrones

[Faraday]

arya maybe dying right there too was fucking awful too in the books. like i did actually skip forward to check when i never ever do that, really

[Tierce]

I'm fairly certain a large percentage of book readers did that. I did. Take my love and my land and my etc. but you can't take my Arya from me.

[quadz08]

I am proud to say I have never skipped forward in any book I've ever read.

[Ythan]

I was like "Well I guess Arya's dead maybe. Back to the hundred living characters."

[Amrun]

You can imagine that stuff spring, but it isn't true. Or at least not established canon.

Tywin did genuinely and completely love his wive, and when she died, taken from him through the birth of Tyrion, the joy in his life left. Tywin also believes in legacy, and Tyrion is a mockery of the great legacy of Lannister blood.

You put those two things together and you've got Tyrion who has taken away the two things Tywin cared most about. You don't need any more to make Tywin's hate understandable.

In the book, it was also implied that he didn't acknowledge Tyrion as his son (publicly, he was forced to, but not in his heart) and hated Tyrion because he made him doubt his wife's loyalty (and he DID love her, so this hurt him most of all). Iirc it hasn't been brought up in the show.

I was like "Well I guess Arya's dead maybe. Back to the hundred living characters."

This, but I was also D: upset.

[Amrun]

I fucking loved Cersei in this episode. Anyone with me?

Definitely her most interested episode so far for me. Very well done.

[Sudo_Nym]

I go into every ASOIAF book assuming that everybody's going to die. So far, it's saved me a great deal of disappointment.

[Ythan]

Were the people upset about the wedding pulling for the Starks? I was never pulling for the Starks and I wasn't upset.

[Sudo_Nym]

I never really cared about the Starks much as a family unit, and would have been happy with a peaceful surrender. I cared about several of the characters, though.

[Ythan]

Bummer that Cat's gone.

[springlullaby]

I knew the stark were getting killed in some terrible fashion but I was rooting for Robb to be dead asap before knowing.

[Amrun]

My boyfriend literally quit the show over Red Wedding. He said he's thought it's been getting progressively more stupid for a while, but... Idk. lol Maybe he'll come back to it. He's not all "STARKS BAW" he just doesn't like the direction of the show.

[zoraster]

nobody is perfect i guess. from my standpoint, the show has gotten progressively more awesome.

[Amrun]

Mine too. I'm like, "But ... this is where shit starts to get good!"

[Amrun]

Update: He already gave up and watched last week's episode and liked it more. lol

[RichardGHP]

Update: He already gave up and watched last week's episode and liked it more. lol

You can run, but you can't hide from the game of thrones.

[Staeg]

I never for a second thought that Arya might be dead after the Red Wedding chapter.

I wasn't saddened by the Red Wedding - I was just really, really amused and excited.

[zoraster]

Staeg, did you wet your bed well into your childhood, dissect insects and animals and have an almost obsessive desire to collect things?

[Fenchurch]

In the book, it was also implied that he didn't acknowledge Tyrion as his son (publicly, he was forced to, but not in his heart) and hated Tyrion because he made him doubt his wife's loyalty (and he DID love her, so this hurt him most of all). Iirc it hasn't been brought up in the show.

Didn't he touch on this, actually? He said something about being 'forced to acknowledge Tyrion as a Lannister, because he has no way of proving otherwise'; implying that he suspects or wishes otherwise. Perhaps more of the latter than the former, so I guess it's not quite what you describe from the book.

Just finished binge-watching this season, I thought it was every bit as good as the previous two. Ep. 4 was my favourite, joy at Daenerys outsmarting the slavers and freeing the army, combined with horror at the Night's Watch falling apart. And the whole of Jaime-Brienne development was outstanding, I wasn't expecting ever to sympathise with Jaime. And Tywin-Joffrey was hilarious.

The bit with Podrick and the prostitutes was the only flaw in my opinion; that just seemed really farcical and out-of-place to me.

Littlefinger's speech in 'The Climb' was powerfully done imo, and Ros' murder shook me, probably as much as Cat, Robb and Talisa in the Red Wedding, it was all horrific. I was sure that some characters were going to die by the end of the season but I was totally wrong as to which ones - I had Theon and Gendry pegged as goners. Too obvious maybe. Although after the Red Wedding happened I felt like I should have seen it coming, the idea that Walder Frey would just forgive them and move on seemed much too easy.

And now Yara has gone to rescue Theon I can't tell whether he is going to die or not. Although the leeches would suggest that Balon Greyjoy has it coming.

I also loved Jojen and Meera, I'm glad they've joined Bran at last. Although I think it would be helpful if there were more than a few daggers worth of dragonglass. I presume Danaerys is going to turn up later and use the dragons to create more??

[Fenchurch]

Oh, the one thing I thought during the Red Wedding - for a couple of strides more, couldn't Catelyn have gotten her knife against Walder's throat, instead of his wife's? It seemed obvious from his character that he wouldn't give a damn about her. But of course, if it didn't happen that way then it didn't happen that way.

[Faraday]

maybe, although she'd just taken 2 arrows and was probably pretty weak/wasn't thinking. she also probably assumed he'd care slightly more about his wife - his mindset would be hard to fathom for her, I think?

[nhammen]

Staeg, did you wet your bed well into your childhood, dissect insects and animals and have an almost obsessive desire to collect things?

I literally loled

Oh, the one thing I thought during the Red Wedding - for a couple of strides more, couldn't Catelyn have gotten her knife against Walder's throat, instead of his wife's? It seemed obvious from his character that he wouldn't give a damn about her. But of course, if it didn't happen that way then it didn't happen that way.

A couple strides and a leap over a table.

[Fenchurch]

Well yeah, it'd take an effort. Okay, maybe it'd be hard to do it swiftly and carefully enough to take him hostage, but she might have been able to just stab him a bit.

[Sudo_Nym]

And I'm confused why she didn't just throw some ninja stars at everybody. She could have taken all the Freys out herself if she'd have just used some ninjutsu.

[zoraster]

you're thinking of the faceless men. The Starks only know krav maga.