Micro 186: Vengeball (Game is over)

Cheery Dog · Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:16 pm

Vote Count 1.4

Player	L-4 Vote	L-3 Vote	L-2 Vote	L-1 Vote
Jake from State Farm	JKMatthews
JasonWazza
JKMatthews
Katsuki	MP5	Jake from State Farm	Wisdom	Seanald
MP5	JasonWazza
Rift Adrift
Seanald
Siverure DtTrikyp
Wisdom	Katsuki	Rift Adrift

Not Voting Siverure DtTrikyp

Deadline:

(expired on 2013-06-24 19:30:00)

Cheery Dog · Post Post #151 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:05 am

Prodding JasonWazza (slightly early because I've run out of things to do before sleep

JasonWazza · Post Post #152 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:14 am

Hey hey hey

ummm i will read what i missed because i forgot about this game among other things

JasonWazza · Post Post #153 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:35 am

In post 49, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 14, Katsuki wrote:Yeah.. the PMs aren't exactly consistent. I couldn't find anything on wiki when I checked either.

Judging by the scum PM posted though, I assume it's just the team whos godfather is lynched loses.

Mod, you need to clarify setup.. as well as our PMs...

this one

This is bad reasoning, when someone says "our" it means more then 1 meaning it can be refering to Town PM's as well for all you know.

In post 51, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:My thought was originally that this is INSANELY town-sided because of the godfathers and it being nightless. We have 4 scum and 2 mislynches at first, and the scum might go after each other.

Not now, of course, but w/e.

Also inclined to baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa but eh too early.

It's sided either to the side with the better scumhunting (Town) or the side that will hide the best (either team of Mafia)

Because worse case scenario (for town) is;

5v2v2 - Mislynch
4v2v2 - MisVengeKill
3v2v2 - Mislynch
2v2v2 - MisVengeKill
1v2v2 - In which the townie is basically giving the win to one side

In post 62, Katsuki wrote:You give me nice godfather vibes. Plus there's already a few players I find rather townie thus far so, maybe you just got unfortunate with your role PM?

This reads as fake, how can you get "Godfather vibes" when really, Godfathers will act a lot similar to just Mafia Goons, with a partner they can willingly lynch, goons are the ones that would seem scummy for defending.

In post 66, Jake from State Farm wrote:Katsuki/Siv for 1 team

Just got to find the other.

This game is easy

Why Siv?

In post 79, Katsuki wrote:
In post 74, Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 72, Katsuki wrote:This level of scumhunting is laughable.

But I can't even be angry given the number of scum on my wagon.
do you typically omgus or just this game?
It's not OMGUS when it's pointing out the truth. Crappy scumhunting tends to correlate with scum especially in a game of this size and nature.

And yes I "OMGUS" all the time when people make shit cases.

Lol no, OMGUS is OMGUS regardless of the fact that you MIGHT be right.

In post 91, Katsuki wrote:It's sad how obvious of a godfather you are, wisdom.

p-edit: You clearly didn't have the same confusion we did when we saw our role PM. HURR I WONDER.

This post makes no sense if your saying all PM's were wrong, just saying.

In post 103, Katsuki wrote: Ok now your case is shifting to me as a player.
Why should I research the game BEFORE the game starts? etcetc.

Because it's a game your agreeing to play?

Because you should know a setup if it's open when you in?

Because of so many other fucking reasons?

In post 124, Wisdom wrote:Listen JK.
Me and Jake are your scumreads, right?
Me and Jake are also Katsuki's scumreads.
So if Katsuki is town (which is the only reason you might not want to hammer him), he will kill one of us.
Sounds good to you, doesn't it?
So you have no reason not to hammer her, do you?

This is a bad post and you know it Wisdom

In post 130, Wisdom wrote:Good answer.
Katsuki still needs rope though.

I really don't like this reaction test, because were you actually town you would realize the quite obvious possible loss if JK had hammered.

UNVOTE: MP5
VOTE: Wisdom

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #154 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:43 am

In post 153, JasonWazza wrote:Why Siv?

his reaction to the katsuki wagon

Rift Adrift · Post Post #155 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:39 am

Three pretty strong town reads.

- f

Wisdom · Post Post #156 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:35 am

Jason I am quite confident Katsuki is scum, so there would be no loss even if JK is town.
But I don't really like that while you picked up the fact that Katsuki is scum, you ended up voting me instead.

Siveure DtTrikyp · Post Post #157 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:43 am

W/E it seems everyone wants to lynch katsuki and I don't really know what to say so BLATANT QUICKHAMMER FTW.

VOTE: katsuki

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #158 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:46 am

good job

Katsuki · Post Post #159 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:09 am

Bleh I come on to say I'm posting later and get this.

Well at least this spares me of having to post.

There's a lot of momentum for this wagon and while I would love to shoot someone harder to lynch I, fuck it.

Lynch Jake for me after.

Vengeshoot: Wisdom

Wisdom · Post Post #160 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:09 am

Hope this is scum trolling, otherwise 2 dead town

Katsuki · Post Post #161 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:10 am

Also my reaction was nowhere near over the top... compared to what my "over the top" reactions are.

Katsuki · Post Post #162 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:10 am

In post 160, Wisdom wrote:Hope this is scum trolling, otherwise 2 dead town

There is no way you're town so.

Wisdom · Post Post #163 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:11 am

If you're actual town and you shot me, you'll see it soon enough.

Katsuki · Post Post #164 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:11 am

I very rarely mis-shoot, not even in a 15player venge. (though it helps when you have a cheeky scumfuck called fate to shoot)

Katsuki · Post Post #165 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:12 am

In post 163, Wisdom wrote:If you're actual town and you shot me, you'll see it soon enough.

Well I'm actually town and you're still not reading town so. I doubt you'll be flipping town and if you are your play was utter shit.

Katsuki · Post Post #166 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:12 am

p.p.s. True scumslips don't exist, and all the supposed behavioural tells were wrong.

Katsuki · Post Post #167 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:13 am

*not true scumslips, but supposed scumslips. Scum would not make the mistake of scumslipping in the first place (unless youre newbscum maybe)

Wisdom · Post Post #168 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:13 am

My play was fine.
I didn't go around calling people godfathers.
If you were town and shot me, you were terrible.

Katsuki · Post Post #169 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:15 am

This

In post 124, Wisdom wrote:Listen JK.
Me and Jake are your scumreads, right?
Me and Jake are also Katsuki's scumreads.
So if Katsuki is town (which is the only reason you might not want to hammer him), he will kill one of us.
Sounds good to you, doesn't it?
So you have no reason not to hammer her, do you?

is not a post townies make.

Wisdom · Post Post #170 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:16 am

Too bad because I do

Wisdom · Post Post #171 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:17 am

Generalizing what town "usually" do and what scum "usually" do does not work on me

Katsuki · Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:17 am

We'll see now won't we. ^^

Katsuki · Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:18 am

In post 171, Wisdom wrote:Generalizing what town "usually" do and what scum "usually" do does not work on me

There is town motivation and scum motivation.

I highly doubt that you approach the game from a scum point of view as town and if you do then there is nothing I can say.

It has nothing to do with "usually", it has to do with playing to your wincon.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:18 am

In post 159, Katsuki wrote:Bleh I come on to say I'm posting later and get this.

Well at least this spares me of having to post.

There's a lot of momentum for this wagon and while I would love to shoot someone harder to lynch I, fuck it.

Lynch Jake for me after.

Vengeshoot: Wisdom

if you are indeed town good riddance. You can't even vengekill properly.

you have a guy who wants "more discussion" yet drops the hammer without creating any discussion.

I'm scum cause I called you scum? get real. your OMGUS behaviour was your downfall. I expected more from an experienced player