Mini 1467 - Arkham Horror Smalltown II - Game Over

[kanyeknowsbest]

do i need to dig through my post history to find at least 10 instances of me saying id lynch someone for being bad and not actually meaning it? is this a real thing thats happening here?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

do i need to dig through my post history to find at least 10 instances of me saying id lynch someone for being bad and not actually meaning it? is this a real thing thats happening here?

No, you don't. I know you have a history of doing it, but this one feels different. I've played with you before, I'm basing this on feeling and Gut! >=D as much as I am logic.

So what I want you to do is tell me 3 people you'd lynch right now other than BB and why.

[kanyeknowsbest]

vote sajin

how is not reading the pre role pm draft alignment indicative? if anything i would expect scum to be more aware what everyone has drafted (you better believe i knew exactly who drafted what when i rolled sk before. otoh i def dont have the draft memorized this time having rolled town.) an argument could be made for pretending to not know the draft but thats not what youre doing.


inte looks scum too. agree w. hito on phd not bein scum. hito likely town.

[kanyeknowsbest]

huh i just realized i didnt bold that vote

[Lady Lambdadelta]

vote sajin

how is not reading the pre role pm draft alignment indicative? if anything i would expect scum to be more aware what everyone has drafted (you better believe i knew exactly who drafted what when i rolled sk before. otoh i def dont have the draft memorized this time having rolled town.) an argument could be made for pretending to not know the draft but thats not what youre doing.


inte looks scum too. agree w. hito on phd not bein scum. hito likely town.

But that's not what he said. That's a misrepresentation of his logic. He's not saying Hito's slot didn't read the draft, he's saying he MISREAD it and then voted someone because they're a BP. The logic that the draft is not alignment indicative applies to Jeremy's vote, not Sajin's. Sajin's vote is for voting someone because they chose BP, simply because they chose BP. And while I don't find it to be particularly AMAZING logic, it IS good enough to warrant a page 3 vote.

So you're gonna need to do much better. Why is inte scum?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like I wanna work with you here. Trust me, the LAST thing I wanna do in this game is lynch you day one and be stuck with Radioactive Wolf and BB alone (minus Hito, <3 you Hito).

So give me something to work with. Give me a reason to kill something else.

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.4

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

PhDScar (2): inte, Toogeloo
Sajin (2): hitogoroshi, Radioactive Wolf
inte (2): kanyeknowsbest, Dry-fit
hitogoroshi (1): Sajin
Symphony (1): DTMaster
DTMaster (1): Blue Bonnet
Blue Bonnet (1): PhDScar
kanyeknowsbest (1): Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting (2): Symphony, shaboostein

Deadline is July 12th, 2013, at 2:00am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-07-12 01:00:00)

[Toogeloo]

I like inte currently.

Why?

Because my inte vote was an RVS and I dislike your position and reasonings for voting jeremy/hito, and inte (somewhat) appears to have the same thoughts, ergo... I unvoted, gave my reason why I unvoted, and then voted elsewhere.

We're barely moving out of the RVS... think of it as drawing a line in the sand. People on my side of the line, I currently like, while people on the other side don't get cookies.

[Blue Bonnet]

You know you love us, don't lie.

~Edward Cullen~

[Toogeloo]

Speaking of which...

So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

I noticed you managed to read my posts since quoted the top part... yet you failed to answer the question I asked you in the very same post. Enlighten please.

[Toogeloo]

Kanye- "We don't have throw away lynches"

Asks for a PL.

Good point. Liking BB much more.

[hitogoroshi]

Your (Symphony) last sentence looks like you're conceding under pressure and then trying to explain yourself with pretty obvious reasoning. Makes me feel weird.

...

and

UNVOTE

Why isn't there a vote for Symphony here?

Hi cats and kittens.

It's a damn shame alignments were only given after the draft. Yeah, Sister Mary doesn't work with alignments before draft, but I love having the draft as a scumhunting tool, and instead it's worthless.

On the other hand though, it does mean that the scumteam might have shitty, unsynergistic powers, which would be excellent.

This post really bugs me:

Draft was alignment independent but his/your vote was after draft. Your predecessor clearly did not pay full attention to the draft because he identified the wrong person with his stated reasoning. I was also trying to identify if he did not like the person or the role with my question. I think pressuring a BP pick solely because of the role is scummy because kills are only scum based (there are no vigs in the setup, only SK and mafia) and certainly worth a vote. I think the excessive VLA is null though, people do VLAs for lots of reasons. Do you disagree with my logic here?

I still want to ask you the follow up question I was going to ask him: How much if any should role be a factor for lynching in smalltown?

Sure, pressuring the bp pick prima facie is a bit of a problem. That's not what you voted him for, though. He picked someone else when he meant to vote the person who picked gangster, and you said

that

was worth voting. Why?

Toogeloo, do you think Kanye is scum?

[shaboostein]

I don't like how inte is pressuring for the phD wagon, looks scummy. And people seem to jump on the fact that I say something looks weird and don't immediately throw my vote at it. I like to be more convinced of someone's guiltiness before voting. Im not the kind to go reaction-testing with votes.

[PhDScar]

Speaking of which...

So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

I noticed you managed to read my posts since quoted the top part... yet you failed to answer the question I asked you in the very same post. Enlighten please.

Sorry I missed that.
Null. I was reading more into it then I should have. Also I really like Hito he is my biggest town read this game.

[hitogoroshi]

I don't like how inte is pressuring for the phD wagon, looks scummy. And people seem to jump on the fact that I say something looks weird and don't immediately throw my vote at it. I like to be more convinced of someone's guiltiness before voting. Im not the kind to go reaction-testing with votes.

I understand this is a philosophy you can subscribe to; I did myself at one time. But it's pretty much objectively incorrect as far as mafia play goes.

Everyone understands that your first votes will probably be less substantial than your later ones. That's fine. But unless you're casting an L-2/L-1 vote, there's no harm in voting for someone you think is only a little more likely scum than everyone else. The point is to get your vote in play, even if it's only a weak conviction, because that is the single easiest way

we

can read

you

, and I really don't want players in this game I can't read, savvy?

[Toogeloo]

Speaking of which...

So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

I noticed you managed to read my posts since quoted the top part... yet you failed to answer the question I asked you in the very same post. Enlighten please.

Sorry I missed that.
Null. I was reading more into it then I should have. Also I really like Hito he is my biggest town read this game.

Hito and jeremy are the same playerslot, you know that, right?

Toogeloo, do you think Kanye is scum?

He's not a town read, but I haven't committed it to a full blown scum read yet.

[Toogeloo]

TOWN[]=========================================================kanye===================[]SCUM

Somewhere around there I imagine.

[hitogoroshi]

I mean, maybe I'm just not understanding what you're going for, but it seems to me like 135 only makes sense if Kanye is scum?

[Toogeloo]

I don't like his posts, no. A lot of what he posts is scummy and/or anti-town, however, though all of kanye's posts, they come off to me as if he doesn't think before he posts them. It's hard to imagine scum doing this since I imagine scum typically have some sort of plan in place, and are more methodical with their posts.


He stated his agreement with your position on PhD, when you never took a stance on PhD, and his post that we should PL BB, but then says we don't have throw away lynches... I think he's just posting off the cuff.

My 135 is more that I feel BB is more likely to be town is based on his rebuttal towards the attacks and that particular point I quoted in particular.

[Toogeloo]

Man, my articulation sucks. That last sentence is pure trash the way it came out.

[PhDScar]

Hito and jeremy are the same playerslot, you know that, right?

I know that’s why I said it. I was basically saying "the last guy was null and the new guy is town so I really doubt it being a scum move".

[kanyeknowsbest]

I don't like his posts, no. A lot of what he posts is scummy and/or anti-town, however, though all of kanye's posts, they come off to me as if he doesn't think before he posts them. It's hard to imagine scum doing this since I imagine scum typically have some sort of plan in place, and are more methodical with their posts.


He stated his agreement with your position on PhD, when you never took a stance on PhD, and his post that we should PL BB, but then says we don't have throw away lynches... I think he's just posting off the cuff.

My 135 is more that I feel BB is more likely to be town is based on his rebuttal towards the attacks and that particular point I quoted in particular.

can you explain what aspect of my posts you believe to be antitown. pls note you used plural so quoting just the "durhur i dont like bb as a person(s) lets lynch them" post wont cut it hhere.

[Toogeloo]

I don't like your posting in particular, but these are the posts that I find the worst.

policy d1 inte lynch for bein a shit head?

anti-town (pre-game though, so strike it)

if anything i would expect scum to be more aware what everyone has drafted (you better believe i knew exactly who drafted what when i rolled sk before. otoh i def dont have the draft memorized this time having rolled town.) an argument could be made for pretending to not know the draft but thats not what youre doing.

Scummy. Especially the part where you state that scum know who drafted what, then you mention you don't know, and then say it's possible to pretend they don't know.

symphony strikes me as eager town w. poor judgment i guess

Scummy. It's not a definitive stance since you add "I guess" at the end.

id be okay w. policy lynching blue bonnet.

anti-town.

holy shit you are retarded

scummy. Pretty much the "No, you." argument.

huh i just realized i didnt bold that vote

Scummy. Realizing you didn't bold a vote, but not doing anything about it, so your vote is still technically sitting in the RVS stage (albeit on someone you have been calling scum, just not Sajin).


For the first couple pages, I just figured you for a troll tbqh. Still, your inconsistent thought pattern doesn't quite make sense as scum which is why I'm not totally sold yet.

[kanyeknowsbest]

oaky so youre just bad.

[Radioactive Wolf]

Sorry for the absence. Freak internet problems.

On the topic of Hito's slot, and jeremylu's V/LA; it is a null tell for me.

UNVOTE: hitogoroshi

Im taking my vote off of hito for now, so that I can watch and see what else is going on.
My vote on jeremylu wasn't very solid before, they were just the most suspicious in my eyes.

Your last sentence looks like you're conceding under pressure and then trying to explain yourself with pretty obvious reasoning. Makes me feel weird.

Oh, don't worry about it.

My vote bores me and I don't like it anymore...
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sajin

Cause reasoning is so 2012...

PhD's vote and response to my query is total BS. His post was completely null, and you are trying to back up both sides of your vote. Vote him because you think think it's a scum gambit, but also because you hope it gets him replaced? Really? So now that he's replaced what's your read on the "gambit?"

^ This

and

UNVOTE

too

many

scum

not

enough

rope