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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:37 am

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In post 0, Scummies wrote:[*]
Best Mafia Catcher

Nominated: MattP First: chkflip Second: None
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Funniest or Most Enjoyable Player

Nominated: Faraday First: SleepyKrew Second: None

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Best Performance Scum Group

Nominated: The Simpsons Mafia First: qwints Second: None
Nominated: Scum of Switch Mafia First: Ms Marangal Second: None
Nominated: Scum of You Could Be Anyone Mafia First: Oversoul Second: None
How the heck did MattP fail to get seconded?

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Also, I can't help but notice the distinct trend--almost every single Best Performance Town nom has a second, whereas nearly every single Best Performance Scum nomination...well, doesn't. :P (Really says something about the site meta when you think about it. :P)
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:09 am

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...what does it say?
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:28 am

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In post 301, Voidedmafia wrote:...what does it say?
More-or-less?

That--true or not--we see it as being much easier to win as scum than as town, AND/OR we see setups as being much more easily scumsided than we do town-sided. :P
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:18 pm

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Nominate the town of HunterxHunterxMafia: Yorknew City for Best Town Performance.


First off, it was an almost-sweep - 5 scum lynches in six days. But I think it's even cooler than the numbers make out. A lot of sweeps have two factors behind them - either the investigation roles get a lot of work done, or the scum chain themselves together too obviously. In this case, the scum were bus frantic, and roles only caught one of the five. Check it out:

D1, Vi nails Gammagooey almost instantly based off of his response to "What do you think of spending Day 1 working together?". Yes - that's literally what happened. Vi strongarms a lynch and bam, strongest scum PR down.

D2 was the role catch. And yeah, it's true that thenewearth misread his role and did an action he knew would fail on someone they suspected would be watched. But AngstyMatters still deserves credit for the way he got the lynch secured. He watched thenewearth target someone who
lived
, so hardly a definitive catch - but he gambited and lied about exactly what info he had to nail thenewearth.

D3, the town forces through an extremely fast lynch on hp [leaves] when he's not even around to claim. They were that certain, just based on dayplay - and they were right.

D4 was the coolest to watch. Maxous claimed bodyguard after being pressured. The town had a claimed tracker/watcher alive. So, it's in their interest to leave him alive, EVEN if he's scum, since scum can't risk killing the strong PR. But even with that...AngstyMatters comes out with a beautiful pair of posts and takes the risk of lynching the claimed bodyguard - and again, he's right.

D5 was the mislynch. Well, everyone gets one.

D6. The last scum is a fruit vendor, something I knew would throw a lot of people. People were wagoning hither and yon, with many players outright stating they wouldn't lynch the fruit vendor...and in comes Sajin, categoricially listing everything Monkey said about his role, pointing out the contradictions. Game, set, match.

Steamrolls are one thing. Steamrolls in the matter of D4, where a high-percentage conservative play is put aside because the town is so certain, and they're right? You don't see that everyday.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 1:20 pm

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Oh, I was just about to do this myself but I guess hito beat me to the punch.

2nd the town of HunterxHunterxMafia
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 2:08 pm

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nth HunterxHunterXMafia
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:37 pm

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In post 302, mastin2 wrote:
In post 301, Voidedmafia wrote:...what does it say?
More-or-less?

That--true or not--we see it as being much easier to win as scum than as town, AND/OR we see setups as being much more easily scumsided than we do town-sided. :P
I think it more says that most people are sore losers but ok.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:46 pm

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So people are somehow magically better sports as scum?
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:35 pm

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No but there is more town able to nominate themselves, whereas there is less scum to do so.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 12:38 pm

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In post 307, Mr. Flay wrote:So people are somehow magically better sports as scum?
I actually think he has a point, you get a lot of "But scum didn't have to play well,town played awful" reactions to best scumteam noms.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:16 pm

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Take my win in Mainstream Mafia for example, only the scum buddy that survived past day 4 actually thought of nominating me after our win, the town/Cult would have been too bitchy to nominate me, and i doubt that the other 5 that died within the first 3 day/night phases would have considered it.

To be fair, it was kinda amazing that a 2 man scum team managed to actually survive and win the game after getting steam rolled, but only my buddy actually thought it was worth a nomination, which says a lot about the way it was looked at.

I mean 2v4ishv15 is a pretty good win to pull back.

And i think after the LYLO a fair amount of the town said exactly what Faraday paraphrased "But scum didn't have to play well,town played awful"
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:02 pm

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I think with town games, we just look for statistics. Did you nail every lynch, how much did you lose and the lot. With scum games, I personally want to see something special. Like, getting to the end of the game and no one having a clue how the group was scum. I like Most cunning manipulator better because it showcases the individuals that always dodge lynches, pull off good fake claims and have really good reasoning for everything they did. (Which is why I wrote up that case for Yates). I want to see a scum team that had the game locked so damn well that it looked like Seal team 6 hit the thread.

But that's just me.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:15 pm

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You don't think pulling back from being steamrolled is worth a nomination? :P

2-19 isn't the most fun situation to be in.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:54 pm

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Oh my god don't even remind me of that game.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:29 am

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Speaking of Jason, I don't actually see him nominated, not for Rising Star, not for Most Cunning Manipulation. (Which is surprising, since I thought I remembered him being nominated.) Time to fix that, and I hope he gets a second before the scummy noms close today.

Nominating JasonWazza for Don Corelone.


He's a seriously,
seriously
badass scum player. :P

Sure, yeah, he might SEEM obvious as scum to some, but the fact is, he's damn-good at not actually getting lynched as scum. And even when he
does
get lynched, the trail of destruction his posts leave makes finding his scumbuddies incredibly difficult; he masks his interactions quite well, and gives a lot of red herrings which'd lead to the lynching of town.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:21 am

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In post 139, qwints wrote:
Nominate Scum Team from Simpsons Mafia for Best Performance Scum Group


1) Use of the bus driver to subvert protection on a claimed cop/thwart a friendly neighbor.
2) Fake counter-claim to make ArcAngel 9 "conf-town"
3) This taunt:
In post 983, ArcAngel9 wrote:
In post 981, qwints wrote:I protected arcangel last night. I lied about how many shots I had.
Thanks!!! I was hoping that i would be night killed or something.
2nd for this nomination

What a game, and surely outstanding performance by SCUM team. At some point, there was no hope for scum team to win. But my fake claim as beloved princess and Phillammon bussing got phillammon lynched and confirmed me as almost town. And my failed night kill, and qwints night protection confirmed me as more town. Scum team has taken the lead by recruting Fitz on next day and with one night kill and mislnych, the Scum team has won the game and made the impossible possible.. :)
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:22 am

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Completely second JasonWazza for the Cunning Manipulator. The game he talks about earlier in this thread is a stellar example. Even as the rest of his scum team went down one after the other, he secured the win for his team and was never in danger of being lynched.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:49 am

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In post 312, JasonWazza wrote:You don't think pulling back from being steamrolled is worth a nomination? :P

2-19 isn't the most fun situation to be in.
It's a team award. 2 out of 7 (!) playing well does not merit a nomination. Both group awards generally go to perfect or near-perfect games.

(The set-up also seems dreadful to me.)
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:02 am

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In post 317, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
In post 312, JasonWazza wrote:You don't think pulling back from being steamrolled is worth a nomination? :P

2-19 isn't the most fun situation to be in.
It's a team award. 2 out of 7 (!) playing well does not merit a nomination. Both group awards generally go to perfect or near-perfect games.

(The set-up also seems dreadful to me.)
I don't want to be all sour grapes or anything, but Jason lived so long because of his claim. :\ And I agree with CES.
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:41 am

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In post 317, Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:
In post 312, JasonWazza wrote:You don't think pulling back from being steamrolled is worth a nomination? :P

2-19 isn't the most fun situation to be in.
It's a team award. 2 out of 7 (!) playing well does not merit a nomination. Both group awards generally go to perfect or near-perfect games.
Don Corleone is not a Team award.

Also, how am I not surprised that Jason gets nommed for what he was complaining about. :roll:
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:44 pm

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I think he means the best scumteam performance (CES, that is).
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:18 am

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nominate xenoblade for most enjoyable

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28572

even though town lost, all 3 teams played very well imo and the game was modded very very well with really good flavour.

special shout out to bro guy for a ridiculously awsum scum game and prohawk deserves something for subbing into a legacy slot and really putting forth effort. I mean the game was in lylo and it was like 170+ pages.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:21 am

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In post 321, pirate mollie wrote:nominate xenoblade for most enjoyable

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28572

even though town lost, all 3 teams played very well imo and the game was modded very very well with really good flavour.

special shout out to bro guy for a ridiculously awsum scum game and prohawk deserves something for subbing into a legacy slot and really putting forth effort. I mean the game was in lylo and it was like 170+ pages.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:22 am

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Second Xenoblade for most enjoyable.


I wasn't even a player (although I
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Make that thirded.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:25 am

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In post 321, pirate mollie wrote:nominate xenoblade for most enjoyable

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28572

even though town lost, all 3 teams played very well imo and the game was modded very very well with really good flavour.

special shout out to bro guy for a ridiculously awsum scum game and prohawk deserves something for subbing into a legacy slot and really putting forth effort. I mean the game was in lylo and it was like 170+ pages.
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