Micro 200 - Two Chances (Game Over)

[Does Bo Know]

Yeah, If anything Madi was less brash after the push.

Seriously? Are we talking about the same words here? Brash? And push?

Can you tell me where

you

think the push started?

So anyway, Madi, point out one or two posts that show Dolittle was leading people astray, please. His reasoning for not sheeping Empking was because he came up with his own deduction through numbers why Xeg is likely scum. His voting someone for knowing someone had day talk is crap, sure, but I see genuine confusion about day talk.

Madi, can you also tell me why you think scum would vote someone because they knew about the day talk, even though the "scum" seems not to have known it himself?

[Empking]

Yeah, If anything Madi was less brash after the push.

Seriously? Are we talking about the same words here? Brash? And push?

Can you tell me where

you

think the push started?

Same place you do.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

DrDolittle (2): Madi, JKMatthews

Xegarus (1): Empking
Empking (1): Xegarus
JKMatthews (1): DrDolittle
Madi (1): Does Bo Know

Not voting (1): Blue Yoshi

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 24th, midnight CEST.

[IceGuy]

Evil Regals replaces JKMatthews.

[Evil Regals]

I'm all caught up.

@Xegarus:

Is there a reason that the majority of your posts are directed only towards Empking and DrDolittle? You might have been asking others for their reads, but the majority of your posts are focusing only on the two above mentioned posters.

@DrDolittle:

I did not like your L-2 vote on Xegarus in Post 38. You're barely scum hunting up to that point and you didn't find anyone scummy. I'm not sure why you were putting someone to L-1 so fast just when the games started. You have been sitting here defending Empking.

So who do you currently find scummy?

@Madi:

I can understand the not voting due to being a hydra, but why are you trying to tell someone to look at your posts in two different slots. You are a hydra you have no right to tell someone not to read your posts how they are. It's your responsibility to interact with your partner and if you guys disagree currently without discussing it gives you guys an out if you make a mistake.

I do not like the tone of #140. You find him scummy, but what was the need to add the extra un-needed tone along with the fact part of the post sounds like you are getting into a slight overlap on wanting to policy lynch him.

Why did you call out Does Bo Know for a very similar agrument that DrDolittle made towards Xegarus. Do you agree with what Does Bo Know has said?

@Does Bo Know:

Blue Yoshi has had one post and he doesn't look like he's committed to the game. I'm not sure how you can label that fence-sitting. It's more of a lack of commitment.

@Empking:

Is there any reason why you left your vote on Xegarus this whole time? Your idle vote right there is suspect and I don't like it at all. You might be interacting with people, but your reads seems to be staying the same and I don't like it.

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I would like to see Blue Yoshi's replacement have thoughts on the game before this day is ended. The deadline is in 6 days which means we still have time.

I'm going to UNVOTE: DrDolittle and VOTE: Empking.

I think his idle vote on Xegarus is suspicious, but I also think he's fence-sitting and being very passive. He's currently my biggest suspect.

[Does Bo Know]

@Evil: I was talking about Madi fence-sitting, I believe. NOT Blue Yoshi. I still have him as a null read.

[IceGuy]

Vote Count

Empking (2): Xegarus, Evil Regals

DrDolittle (1): Madi
Xegarus (1): Empking
Evil Regals (1): DrDolittle
Madi (1): Does Bo Know

Not voting (1): Blue Yoshi

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Deadline is July 24th, midnight CEST.

[Does Bo Know]

Also Evil is bleeding town and should never be lynched.

[DrDolittle]

Eh this is appalling. I guess I was the only one who didn't know scum has daytalk and overreacted?
UNVOTE:
I need to gather thought.

[DrDolittle]

DBK why is evil town.

[Evil Regals]

Yes you overreacted to it, but the topic of not knowing scum had daytalk is null. It's either you are town and you got a town role PM, you are scum trying to fake not knowing scum had day talk for towncred or you just didn't read the setup/rules after joining. You aren't necessarily scum for it, but you aren't shining town for it too.

Why did you unvote?

You had your vote on me why do you think I'm scum? Well really why did you think JKMatthews was scum?

[DrDolittle]

"Well really why did you think JKMatthews was scum?" See 142
"Why did you unvote?" See 183

Evil. Who's not scum?

[Evil Regals]

Nvm look at this.

I'm not discounting that given that scum can talk whenever

I did a doubletake when I saw this.

So I went back to check the role PMs. And indeed it says that scum can talk whenever.

But actually, an average player would not read the first post containing the role PM - since the setup is open, they would have already visited the wiki page to know the setup before signing up.

Furthermore, standard Mafia games, scum can only talk at night. As JKM said this so matter of factly - he's most likely scum.

VOTE: JKM

Actually you didn't really take into consideration that JKMatthews is a bit newer than most. I think you jumped on something that was already grasping at straws. This post is a bit hypocritical in it's own sense too. Mainly due to the bolded and the underlined. You berate someone for reading the first post for roles and everything, but you had to go back and check. Which means you read the setup and forgot and due to this you had to double check.

You're not really considering all aspects of it which in of itself is scummy. Town wouldn't jump down a semi-new player, but scum would try to do it to see if they can get something to stick and possibly lynch.

With that said I'm not going to vote you because I think it's more likely that Empking is scum.

[Evil Regals]

I am thinking scum is in between {Empking, Xegarus & You}. Blue Yoshi is null because he hasn't posted and I would like time to hear from his replacement. Madi is leaning town to me, but so is Does Be Know.

[DrDolittle]

ok mr. nitpick: back to check as in i went back to the first page and checked. and now i have to go back and check if jkm is a semi-new player as well, cause that's again news to me.
" You berate someone for reading the first post for roles and everything,"
it was surprising that jkm (and now also everyone) read posts 1 - 3.

[Evil Regals]

Just because you need to gather thoughts

isn't

a reason to unvote me. If you believe I'm scum keep your vote on me, but unvoting because of this situation isn't a good thing.

I just likely caught you in a lie though.

How did you not know scum had Daytalk, but you read the wiki? Yet you berate a player for looking at the first post, but either you didn't read the wiki and tried to manufacture a scum case on JKMatthews based solely off that.

[DrDolittle]

i dont see anything that hints town here
"
I can understand the not voting due to being a hydra, but why are you trying to tell someone to look at your posts in two different slots. You are a hydra you have no right to tell someone not to read your posts how they are. It's your responsibility to interact with your partner and if you guys disagree currently without discussing it gives you guys an out if you make a mistake.

I do not like the tone of #140. You find him scummy, but what was the need to add the extra un-needed tone along with the fact part of the post sounds like you are getting into a slight overlap on wanting to policy lynch him.

Why did you call out Does Bo Know for a very similar agrument that DrDolittle made towards Xegarus. Do you agree with what Does Bo Know has said?"

why is madi town?

[Evil Regals]

ok mr. nitpick: back to check as in i went back to the first page and checked. and now i have to go back and check if jkm is a semi-new player as well, cause that's again news to me.
" You berate someone for reading the first post for roles and everything,"
it was surprising that jkm (and now also everyone) read posts 1 - 3.

Isn't it more likely for a newer player to read it? I read it prior to replacing in.

[DrDolittle]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Two_Chances
does it say scum has daytalk here champ? also 183 has three lines. you read only 2

[DrDolittle]

how do i know if jkm is a newer player. unless im in newbie game, i look at every player equally see 189

[Evil Regals]

Just because I disagree with someone for their un-needed tone does not mean I think they are scum. The only thing that I found partially scummy in what I read in regards to the Madi slot is the possible overlap for a policy lynch on your slot.

Madi is applying pressure and they are actually scum-hunting. They are doing a better job than other players which is why I said they are leaning town. It's not a solid town read, but a leaning town read.

[Evil Regals]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Two_Chances
does it say scum has daytalk here champ? also 183 has three lines. you read only 2

Don't call me champ. It doesn't say it there, but I didn't read the wiki and I didn't go to it until you pointed it out. I would still think town would want to know more mechanics of what they are dealing when playing against the mafia.

how do i know if jkm is a newer player. unless im in newbie game, i look at every player equally see 189

There's this thing on the left side under the picture that has a join date. There's another thing called searching their finished games. I suggest using it before jumping down someone's throat in the future.

[DrDolittle]

"because I disagree with someone for their un-needed tone does not mean I think they are scum" i just wanted you to lay out why you thought madi is town

"Madi is applying pressure and they are actually scum-hunting"

wut? where is the pressure? is it on me? cause calling people stupid aint no pressure. also that seems to be the exact opposite as dbk is saying. comments?

[Does Bo Know]

Ewww nvm He's not bleeding town anymore, he said Madi was "scumhunting."

More when I get to a computer.

[DrDolittle]

i think the wiki lays things out pretty clear, sport.

i'm sorry that i don't search people's other games before attacking him. i guess lacking courtesy?