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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:43 am

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In post 299, Empking wrote:Suggesting the plan you outlined.
By that definition, yes i was suggesting some sort of plan. Something LIKE what i brought forth. Did i at all think people would want to use my plan or expect them to? Not at all.
It was a template for my thoughts of the matter and completely hypothetical.
I was suggesting A plan. Not exactly my own.
I'm asking people for their thoughts on the matter. Like i said, i would like to go the systematic route but that can only work if absolutely everyone says agrees with it. There may be some (like yourself) that want to go the quiet way and say nothing.
In post 297, Empking wrote:You were clearly trying to be suggestive. If you're saying you're weren't making a suggestion then that's awfully sneaky of you.
What was that supposed to mean?
I did not deny suggesting my plan so whats all this BS about being sneaky?
Are you trying to say that if something is hypothetical it cannot also be a suggestion?

In post 299, Empking wrote:And forcing them to decide what they want will provide signal.
But the fact that they are the ones doing the intimidating, they could already have a plan thought up. They have the day talk, remember. All they have to decide is who is intimidating who and allow atleast on the scum to look town. Also, if we all just do our own separate things, we could easily miss viewing people out.
What if all the town target 2 townsman? And what if those 2 townsman are not being intimidated? At best it could make one of the 2 everyone targets a confirmed town. But that would be a 50-50 thing as one of them could be a scum to our eyes.




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The scums have to choose an intimidate target. Can that target be a scum?



Absta, i would appreciate it if you (or anyone else) dont hammer until we have some sort of agreement on a plan(or the lack of one).
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:52 am

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In post 292, Xegarus wrote:If we use the order shown in the player list we could do something like this.

absta views Evil
Evil views Madi
Madi views me
I view Dr (assuming emp gets hammered)
Dr views DBK
and DBK views absta

Now, assuming the worst case scenario would be that 3 scum are one after the other on the list. This means that Scum A fakes viewing Scum B while Scum B fakes viewing the next Scum who then fakes viewing the next player and most probably also intimidates that town. If this is the case, then no town gets a positive and scum could claim the exact same which leaves us with no advantage and we do what we did today to try and catch the scum. But it would be 3v3.

But hopefully scum is spread apart so that town does get atleast one positive. And hopefully we lynch scum today.

Anyone see any flaws or would like to make any comment?
I think this plan is okay, but the only problem is whether or not the scum can intimidate one of their own. If they can then this plan goes to hell because we could accidentally be clearing one of them instead of clearing town.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:56 am

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The idea that
I
am the player avoiding speaking about a plan is ridiculous. 'People do as they wish (don't be stupidly paranoid and risk-averse)' is a plan, it simply lends itself poorly to discussion.
In post 300, Xegarus wrote:What was that supposed to mean?
I did not deny suggesting my plan so whats all this BS about being sneaky?
Are you trying to say that if something is hypothetical it cannot also be a suggestion?
Going 'its all hypothetical 'its completely hypothetical' and 'its all just theory' is trying to pretend you were just clearing your throat.

P-Edit: Read the set up; scum can target their own.
Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:02 pm

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In post 302, Empking wrote:The idea that I am the player avoiding speaking about a plan is ridiculous. 'People do as they wish (don't be stupidly paranoid and risk-averse)' is a plan, it simply lends itself poorly to discussion.
You misunderstood.
When i said "want to go the quiet way and say nothing." I meant that was the plan.
As in, to not say who you are targetting.
In post 302, Empking wrote:Going 'its all hypothetical 'its completely hypothetical' and 'its all just theory' is trying to pretend you were just clearing your throat.
Sorry? I dont quite understand what you mean by that.
Can you elaborate?
In post 302, Empking wrote:Read the set up; scum can target their own.
Well fuck.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:05 pm

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Actually on second thought.

If we follow that plan we are still likely to catch a scum. Town can see whether or not someone was intimated or who did the intimating. We still would find one scum since this is nightless.

@Predit: I had to go back and reread the scum abilities again. Now I feel stupid for my previous post.

I still think Empking is scum although I'm wondering if Madi is scum also. Empking had less votes before the Madi wagon grew and now that it grew they are both even votes which makes me think that Empking is a possible counterwagon of Madi. The scum could also be spread out between wagons though.

@Empking:

Can you stop the tunneling on Xegarus. The same applies to Xegarus.
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:00 pm

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Hey i thought you guys all read the role PMs.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:00 pm

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dicks.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:05 pm

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Also this suggesting this following thing is extremely scummy. Even if scum can only target town, as long as two scum lines up, the investigation is mucked. There is a pretty good chance that two scum will line up - especially if Emp flips town, which I highly suspect.

Don't hammer Emp.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:09 pm

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also one positive on town is worse than no positive.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:12 pm

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by the way at least any two scum lining up in a 3v3 6 people circle is 19/20.
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:13 pm

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In post 307, DrDolittle wrote:
Also this suggesting this following thing is extremely scummy
. Even if scum can only target town, as long as two scum lines up, the investigation is mucked. There is a pretty good chance that two scum will line up - especially if Emp flips town, which I highly suspect.

Don't hammer Emp.
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:14 pm

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eh that was refering to xeg's rolling investigation. cut me a break, didnt sleep yesterday. The following thing refers to the following investigation strategy thing.
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:15 pm

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way to derail off topic.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:17 pm

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How did I derail?
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:30 pm

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My fault. Jeering at an obvious grammatica flaw is obviously on topic.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:32 pm

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OK what the fuck is this:

"This means that Scum A fakes viewing Scum B while Scum B fakes viewing the next Scum who then fakes viewing the next player and most probably also intimidates that town. "

Intimidation is a factional ability.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:35 pm

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In post 37, IceGuy wrote:I made a mistake when formulating the role PMs: I accidentally put the "Intimidation" ability into the individual instead of the factional abilities.

To clarify: the Intimidation is a factional ability and has to be performed by one scum player only.

OK. So I don't know how Xeg got the idea that intimidate is not factional. Judging by this I conclude that he read his scum PM and missed this post. Otherwise, via any sources, town would know that intimidate is factional.

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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:36 pm

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No Xeg is scum. lynch him pls.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:40 pm

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In post 315, DrDolittle wrote:OK what the fuck is this:

"This means that Scum A fakes viewing Scum B while Scum B fakes viewing the next Scum who then fakes viewing the next player and most probably also intimidates that town. "

Intimidation is a factional ability.
Where did you pull this from? Your Mafia QT?
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:41 pm

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Oh nevermind. It's an Xegarus post.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:47 pm

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Oh so when I say that
Evil: "Where did you pull this from? Your Mafia QT?"
But when Xeg says that
Evil: "I think this plan is okay"

I don't see any reason why Evil is a town read for so many poeople
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:55 pm

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goddamn abasta wouldnt compromise a xeg lynch now.
VOTE: madi
pls don't lynch obv town.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:56 pm

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actually if we kill emp now and he flips town, we can all sheep him and that'd still be cool.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:57 pm

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322 is quality
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:12 pm

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Dr, wtf are you taking about?
Its like you went full retard.
Wtf is 315 and 316 about? Can you not read? Did you not see the part where only one scum would intimidate?
You said my plan was actually scummy? How? The obvious possible flaw that I pointed out my self?
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