Mini 1475: War in the Middle East Mafia (Game Over)

waynegg · Post Post #275 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:19 am

In post 267, Ten_Heavens wrote:Waynegg, you're really hellbent on this aren't you? But I see the plan that you're trying to implement and then suddenly the result you wanted jumped in front of your face, you believed it worked. But what happens if it was just coincidence? It's just that we are already two towns down and if we're not careful about this, there might be no coming back.

Other people need to give some of their opinions on this matter, especially the flakers. Marquis, Broseidon and Killerjester. Actually you know what Marquis hasn't really gave anything on anyone.

There's no such thing as coincidence in mafia.

I like your cautious nature here Ten. But what happens when we dismiss SOLID evidence just because of feelings on gambits in general? I get the reluctance. Many people say they're gambiting and fuck it up because they don't know what they're doing. That's not me, and I challenge anyone to poke a hole in the play, the execution, the expected results, the actual results, and the explanation of the plan well thought out ahead of time.

even if someone can so ehow poke a legitimate holemin it. What happened after the gambit was announced ~ Troubles doing a complete fucking 180 on the motivation behind his initial post ~ would on its on, in any game I've ever played, have him on the fast track to a rope. Players ignoring that just shows VI because they don't trust the gambit so much they aren't willing to consider concrete fucking evidence of his scumminess, scum wifoming to help out their scum partners, or stubbornness in that they will only trust themselves and their reads regardless of the situation. Some can't handle that truth, but it just is what it is.

And yeah. I'm hellbent. I want to lynch scum. Troubles is as confirmed scum as you can hope for aside from a sane cop result or an actual flip.

Your Troubles Will Cease (3): waynegg, killerjester, BROseidon
Baezu (3): Your Troubles Will Cease, rhyx, Salt n Pepper
killerjester (1): Baezu
waynegg (1): T S O
Not Voting: Ten_Heavens, Titus, Marquis

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, August 5th at 9 PM Eastern Time.

Ten_Heavens · Post Post #276 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:19 am

In post 273, Salt n Pepper wrote:Your plan was bad and you should feel bad. "Hey Im going to use a potentially powerful tool to find scum to do some dumb gambit, because #YOLO right?"

Let's not all say things that we're gonna regret, if he's right about this you'll probably not gonna hear the end of it.

waynegg · Post Post #277 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:21 am

Then take ME out of the picture.

83, 87, 94, 124, and 158. 158 is a direct contradiction of 87.

waynegg · Post Post #278 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:23 am

In post 276, Ten_Heavens wrote:
In post 273, Salt n Pepper wrote:Your plan was bad and you should feel bad. "Hey Im going to use a potentially powerful tool to find scum to do some dumb gambit, because #YOLO right?"
Let's not all say things that we're gonna regret, if he's right about this you'll probably not gonna hear the end of it.

I don't gloat. I hunt.

killerjester · Post Post #279 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:24 am

In post 267, Ten_Heavens wrote:But what happens if it was just coincidence?

A coincidental scumslip is still a scumslip. I really don't care if waynegg's gambit provoked it or not, Trouble (Trouble Trouble) is scummy as fuck.

waynegg · Post Post #280 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:24 am

In post 273, Salt n Pepper wrote:Your plan was bad and you should feel bad. "Hey Im going to use a potentially powerful tool to find scum to do some dumb gambit, because #YOLO right?"

Thanks for admitting you're stubborn and don't like the play so you turn the blinders to the results. That's really dumb.

Your Troubles Will Cease · Post Post #281 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:25 am

In post 275, waynegg wrote: And yeah. I'm hellbent. I want to lynch scum. Troubles is as confirmed scum as you can hope for aside from a sane cop result or an actual flip.

You're going to shout and blame me when I flip, aren't you?

Salt n Pepper · Post Post #282 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:28 am

Yup Wayne, keep calling us dumb, that's the best way to cow people into following you!

Your Troubles Will Cease · Post Post #283 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:28 am

In post 275, waynegg wrote:Troubles doing a complete fucking 180 on the motivation behind his initial post

And no, this didn't happen. What happened was that I did a 180 on what you're trying to mangle as the motivation behind the initial post. And as much as you rant and you rave and you insult, if people don't go with you then you can't do shit.

Titus · Post Post #284 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:31 am

In post 283, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:
In post 275, waynegg wrote:Troubles doing a complete fucking 180 on the motivation behind his initial post
And no, this didn't happen. What happened was that I did a 180 on what you're trying to mangle as the motivation behind the initial post. And as much as you rant and you rave and you insult, if people don't go with you then you can't do shit.

I really don't like the aggression here.

@Waynegg, do you have something more than the slip to argue that Troubles is scum?

killerjester · Post Post #285 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:31 am

In post 281, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:You're going to shout and blame me when I flip, aren't you?

Considering that you haven't done any scumhunting since page 4? Yeah, that would make you a pretty fucking bad townflip. One of the scummiest I've ever seen. And I've played with this guy.

killerjester · Post Post #286 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:32 am

Cute AtE tho

Salt n Pepper · Post Post #287 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:32 am

Who's scummy, Troubles?

killerjester · Post Post #288 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:34 am

Yes. Just look at his ISO.

Your Troubles Will Cease · Post Post #289 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:35 am

In post 284, Titus wrote:
In post 283, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:
In post 275, waynegg wrote:Troubles doing a complete fucking 180 on the motivation behind his initial post
And no, this didn't happen. What happened was that I did a 180 on what you're trying to mangle as the motivation behind the initial post. And as much as you rant and you rave and you insult, if people don't go with you then you can't do shit.
I really don't like the aggression here.

I'm speaking his language, to put it one way.

Declaring intent to have a readthrough at some point today. For now, enjoy this soothing jingle.

Ten_Heavens · Post Post #290 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:38 am

Hey Titus welcome to the game.

Have you caught up on everything yet? Besides the main show, I wanna hear your opinion, you and Marquis specially.

Titus · Post Post #291 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:41 am

In post 290, Ten_Heavens wrote:Hey Titus welcome to the game.

Have you caught up on everything yet? Besides the main show, I wanna hear your opinion, you and Marquis specially.

Would you like a wall? Generally when I replace in, I'm a bigger fan of just letting this proceed as they are and highlighting flaws in current arguments rather than trying to dominate and interrupt current thought processes with a wall.

Salt n Pepper · Post Post #292 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:44 am

No wall necessary, just be forthcoming about your reactions to what is currently going on.

waynegg · Post Post #293 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:47 am

In post 283, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:
In post 275, waynegg wrote:Troubles doing a complete fucking 180 on the motivation behind his initial post
And no, this didn't happen. What happened was that I did a 180 on what you're trying to mangle as the motivation behind the initial post. And as much as you rant and you rave and you insult, if people don't go with you then you can't do shit.

In post 83, Your Troubles Will Cease wrote:Also, if whoever nuked Amrun is
town
, you should probably feel bad.

Town did it

a hasty vig is something that seems more likely for
town
to do

Town did it

Amrun's killer, who may or may not be one of a pool of {
town, scum, third party, werewolf, cult
}.

Anyone could done it

You're right, there
isn't
a clear Town thought process for assuming an early Dayvig is town. Hence why I didn't assume it.[/b]

Anyone BUT town did it.

At this point, I would really like to know what your definition of doing a 180 is Troubles?

Salt n Pepper · Post Post #294 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:50 am

I like Ten Heavens but it's all gut.
- pi

waynegg · Post Post #295 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:51 am

In post 290, Ten_Heavens wrote:Hey Titus welcome to the game.

Have you caught up on everything yet? Besides the main show, I wanna hear your opinion, you and Marquis specially.

You know Marquis' town meta is to lurk until he has a full set of reads so he can own thread with massive, concise, extremely accurate wall that's basically irrefutable, right?

Salt n Pepper · Post Post #296 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:52 am

In post 295, waynegg wrote:
In post 290, Ten_Heavens wrote:Hey Titus welcome to the game.

Have you caught up on everything yet? Besides the main show, I wanna hear your opinion, you and Marquis specially.
You know Marquis' town meta is to lurk until he has a full set of reads so he can own thread with massive, concise, extremely accurate wall that's basically irrefutable, right?

What's his scum meta? I've only played marathons with Marquis, doesn't count.

Ten_Heavens · Post Post #297 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 5:52 am

In post 279, killerjester wrote:
In post 267, Ten_Heavens wrote:But what happens if it was just coincidence?
A coincidental scumslip is still a scumslip. I really don't care if waynegg's gambit provoked it or not, Trouble (Trouble Trouble) is scummy as fuck.

Once again you've jumped on and popped out behind waynegg to reinforce his argument. I don't mind his opinion but it bothers me that whatever he says, you are there to back it up. Even though I'd only said your name once.

Anyone else you find suspicious?? Or are you waiting for waynegg to start pointing fingers?

@Titus:

Just give a brief summary if you will, don't have to give your entire reads, I don't even have mine ready lol

waynegg · Post Post #298 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:04 am

In post 296, Salt n Pepper wrote:What's his scum meta? I've only played marathons with Marquis, doesn't count.

He's very active and extremely helpful

In post 296, Salt n Pepper wrote:Anyone else you find suspicious?? Or are you waiting for waynegg to start pointing fingers?

Lol! But, I already pointed a finger

killerjester · Post Post #299 (ISO) » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:05 am

In post 297, Ten_Heavens wrote:Once again you've jumped on and popped out behind waynegg to reinforce his argument. I don't mind his opinion but it bothers me that whatever he says, you are there to back it up. Even though I'd only said your name once.

That's because when you said my name once you asked for my opinion. What's your point?