Open 520: Stacking the Deck Part II - Game Over...Mafia Win!

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh FFS. This isn't a newbie game, so drop the whole IC thing.
Jason and I are both registered IC's on site, so speculating about "sheep the IC" is as good as WIFOM is to a newbie town.

[JasonWazza]

Innocent child Fuzzy.

Bubba: Your reasoning for my question is null and void, because if you believed what you said earlier, you wouldn't have voted me for that reason.

YOU SHEEPED THE FUCKING INNOCENT CHILD.

[bubbajack8]

No I did it for discussion. And I was starting to get it (See post 84)

And Jsmith had just said in 79 that he's not the best scumhunter. Do you really think I'm that much of an idiot to sheep him after that?

[Tammy]

Vote Count 1.03

JasonWazza (3) - mutleyddmc, Soundsofmusic, jsmith1234

anorway (2) - anorway, elleheathen
Bubbajack8 (1) - JasonWazza
awestfie (1) - qwertyuiop
TheGreatOne (1) - Sakura Hana
Soundsofmusic (1) - TheGreatOne

Not Voting (3) - awestfie, fuzzybutternut, bubbajack8

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, August 21, 2013, at 2:00 AM CDT (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2013-08-21 02:00:00).

[bubbajack8]

Uh. Anorway, why are you self voting.

[TheGreatOne]

I do maybe? have you done anything about it before coming here and complaining I moved to another discussion? I'm not gonna wait the whole deadline for you to post before I start discussing with others.

Maybe. Or you don't. So far, it looks like the latter.

No, I was giving a reason, not sitting there typing complaints and getting nothing done.

At least do more than just asking a question and then freaking out once I give an answer.

UNVOTE: Soundsofmusic

[anorway]

Uh. Anorway, why are you self voting.

RVS.

UNVOTE: anorway

By the way what was this whole Jason wagon about? I failed to see what was scummy.

[Sakura Hana]

I did not. I didn't start this wagon either, I just joined it.

Why was this necessary?
VOTE: Bubbajack

[jsmith1234]

LOLOLLOLOLOLOLOL

This is the good old "he's the IC (newbie games IC not this IC) LYNCH HIM" argument outside of a newbie game, there is no reason i am any better then any of you, and if i am, how does the possiblity of lynching an experienced scum player outweigh that of lynching an experienced town player?

AND OF COURSE THE IC IS THE ONE TO DO THIS RETARDED SHIT

We've already seen how a relatively newer player can make this game easier for town (i.e. awestfie is almost certainly town for her noobslip). We don't really need a bunch of experienced town players in this game if there are several newer players who can make getting reads easier imo. Yes, a more proper way to approach this is to go for the experienced player who has shown to be a far better mafia player than they are town player, but I didn't go through the effort of figuring that information out. Bottom line, I'm not advocating a lynch of a newbie game IC because they might trick me as scum. I'm advocating it because relatively inexperienced players are less likely to trick me as scum, so I'd prefer they be alive rather than the experienced ones. The ease of reading newer players outweighs the benefit of having a bunch of experienced town players imo.

As for why I picked Jason over the other experienced players, it was because of his relatively high post count and the fact that he already had a couple votes on him, so it'd be an easier BW to develop.

It's probably not worth me arguing the whole "experience is nothing" debate. I disagree with fuzzy on this but at this point it doesn't matter.

I'm still fine with my vote on Jason for now. Plus, his somewhat derisive, emotional reaction and use of the word "retarded" indicates his argumentation style won't work well with me, so all else equal, he's a fine lynch candidate.

@anorway: Personally speaking, Jason didn't do anything scummy (he only made one post before I voted him). I just prefer to lynch an experienced player is all, and he was a viable target.

[bubbajack8]

@Sakura I was talking to Jason.

Anorway, I still dont like the idea. Besides Jason being wrong on me he still could be town.

[fuzzybutternut]

Innocent child Fuzzy.

Bubba: Your reasoning for my question is null and void, because if you believed what you said earlier, you wouldn't have voted me for that reason.

YOU SHEEPED THE FUCKING INNOCENT CHILD.

...I knew this..I promise I knew this.

[fuzzybutternut]

Is it just me or is bubba flailing a bit?

[Sakura Hana]

@Sakura I was talking to Jason.

That doesnt change my point

[bubbajack8]

Is it just me or is bubba flailing a bit?

you said that last game you were in with me, and I was town. If you start wanting to death tunnel me again, please ask.

@Sakura I was talking to Jason.

That doesnt change my point

My post was it was in response to

Because i haven't had time and apparently no RL time means i deserve to be voted.

@Bubba: did you even look at my posting elsewhere?

I saw it as if he thought I started the wagon, so I told him I didn't

[fuzzybutternut]

Is it just me or is bubba flailing a bit?

you said that last game you were in with me, and I was town. If you start wanting to death tunnel me again, please ask.

@Sakura I was talking to Jason.

That doesnt change my point

My post was it was in response to

Because i haven't had time and apparently no RL time means i deserve to be voted.

@Bubba: did you even look at my posting elsewhere?

I saw it as if he thought I started the wagon, so I told him I didn't

I didn't say you were scum for it, bro. I said you were flailing.

[Sakura Hana]

Bubba: the point is, that it looks to me like you want to be dissasociated with the wagon, why?

[bubbajack8]

I am. I ain't going to lie. I'm just saying, you better think before you death tunnel me.. It look like you were about to start.

I'm flailing because there's bullshit reasoning on the votes on me. Jason's doesn't make a like of sense if you read my ISO and Sakura's is just a WTF?

But Meh. There's nothing we can go on now. So I kinda want to take a wagon like a man, so we can get something out of the people on the wagon.

P:edit; Disassociated with the Jason wagon? No. I was on the wagon. I put him at L-2, but I also talked against the wagon.

[Sakura Hana]

I put him at L-2, but I also talked against the wagon.

Oh dear me, now i want you more dead than ever.

[bubbajack8]

And that would be blue blood on your hands.

[Sakura Hana]

And that would be blue blood on your hands.

I can't be certain of that.

[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: Bubba

[bubbajack8]

And that would be blue blood on your hands.

I can't be certain of that.

but i can.

[Sakura Hana]

So? Scum can easily say the same thing so... *shrug*

[bubbajack8]

I still can't believe fuzzy voting me, that surprises me cause he's played with me as town.

@Sakura: that they can. Won't know unless you actually try, or they flip.

[Sakura Hana]

And this is helping you prove your alignment how?