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Do you think my vote is rvs?In post 48, JKMatthews wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: StubbsKVM
For a completely innocuous vote. The irony is thatstillnobody has 2 votes on them, but mine's not RVS so hopefully that counts for something...
Care to share with the class why you made this anti town statement?In post 41, JKMatthews wrote:So given that we all know the PRs anyway, is it worth discussing some sort of strategy or is it better to leave everyone to their own devices?
There's something fallacious about the bolded reasoning, but I'm having trouble putting my finger on it/expressing it. You say everyone knowing everyone's powers puts us on a "truly level" playing field, as though us not all knowing each other's PRs would be a disadvantage. But if that were true, every game of mafia would start with all the PRs claiming so that town would be on a "truly level" playing field. Given that scum already knowIn post 54, Maestro wrote:JKM, why would would we plan something in public, or rather, why would you suggest we plan something in publicwhen we're on a truly level playing field with the Scum at this point in time, at least information-wise? planning things out in public is only the best idea if there is claiming/clearing (usually of PR's) involved, or if there is an auto-Win strategy conceived. any other time public planning simply serves to inform Scum about actions which would otherwise be more unpredictable and (hopefully) more to our advantage
I disagree, insofar as Town claiming just to "put themselves on a level playing field" is decidedly antiTown in almost any(...) every game of mafia would start with all the PRs claiming so that town would be on a "truly level" playing field. Given that scum already know exactly who they want to pick off, I would say town are decidedly disadvantaged compared to normal.
I vote whoever I want, whether you like it or not.In post 48, JKMatthews wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: StubbsKVM
For a completely innocuous vote. The irony is thatstillnobody has 2 votes on them, but mine's not RVS so hopefully that counts for something...
...is something I would answer "no" to. You're not understanding me 100%. I'm saying that in a setup where Scum does not have the opportunity to lie about their Role, we essentially start off on what I consider to be a more advantageous footing/"level playing field", since Scum can now be more easily ousted through Night Action analyzation and process of elimination. In a setup where Scum have the chance to lie about their Role within reason (even if simply by claiming VT) there is considerably less proTown support for claiming as soon as possible.In post 61, JKMatthews wrote:Suppose rather than drafting these roles, we were each randomly assigned them (but were still informed of the complete list of roles), then randomly assigned alignment. Is the correct play for everybody to claim their role to create a level playing field?
In the hypothetical I proposed, scum also wouldn't have the chance to lie about their roles, even by claiming VT. I feel like we're having 2 tangential conversations, because I understand and agree with what you've been saying, other than the 'level playing field thing'.In post 64, Maestro wrote:Yes, I mean we know what'sin the game. That could seem trivial to you, and I was probably explaining in a roundabout way, but you obviously didn't get the full gist of my point because this:
...is something I would answer "no" to. You're not understanding me 100%. I'm saying that in a setup where Scum does not have the opportunity to lie about their Role, we essentially start off on what I consider to be a more advantageous footing/"level playing field", since Scum can now be more easily ousted through Night Action analyzation and process of elimination. In a setup where Scum have the chance to lie about their Role within reason (even if simply by claiming VT) there is considerably less proTown support for claiming as soon as possible.In post 61, JKMatthews wrote:Suppose rather than drafting these roles, we were each randomly assigned them (but were still informed of the complete list of roles), then randomly assigned alignment. Is the correct play for everybody to claim their role to create a level playing field?