Open 520: Stacking the Deck Part II - Game Over...Mafia Win!

TheGreatOne · Post Post #475 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:38 am

Looking at Jason's and jsimth's reasons, I agree completely.

I am the roleblocker, and I blocked fuzzybutternut last night.

notscience · Post Post #476 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:47 am

Mutt why did you avoid my question

Also why didn't you BG Nacho

Mutleyddmc · Post Post #477 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:47 am

VOTE: fuzzy

why did you not vote him?

jsmith1234 · Post Post #478 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:56 am

Thanks, TGO. Naturally, if someone cc's roleblocker, please claim. : p

VOTE: fuzzybutternut

Mutleyddmc · Post Post #479 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:58 am

In post 476, notscience wrote:Mutt why did you avoid my question

Also why didn't you BG Nacho

cos i saved it for sak!

you mean the whee am i?

cos I don't ever know where I am

notscience · Post Post #480 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:59 am

I'm kinda wondering what mutt is too.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #481 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:18 am

In post 476, notscience wrote:Also why didn't you BG Nacho

He was too busy saving the traitor from the vigilante.

Also ontopic:
VOTE: fuzz

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #482 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:28 am

'cause that makes me scum.

jsmith1234 · Post Post #483 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:31 am

In post 482, fuzzybutternut wrote:'cause that makes me scum.

It greatly increases the probability that you're scum.

Mutleyddmc · Post Post #484 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 5:34 am

In post 481, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 476, notscience wrote:Also why didn't you BG Nacho
He was too busy saving the traitor from the vigilante.

Also ontopic:
VOTE: fuzz

I would have been had you been able to hit scum!

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #485 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:05 am

In post 483, jsmith1234 wrote:
In post 482, fuzzybutternut wrote:'cause that makes me scum.
It greatly increases the probability that you're scum.

Lol no it doesn't. Look at the setup of this game. It's actually BETTER for scum to No-Kill N1, so as to avoid accidentally killing the traitor.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #486 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:10 am

Actually no, if they hit the traitor they will know because he didnt die.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #487 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:13 am

So only 2 possible scenarios

Mafia -Shoot-> Traitor (1 shot BP is gone)
Mafia -RoleBlocked-X Target

jsmith1234 · Post Post #488 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:23 am

In post 485, fuzzybutternut wrote:
In post 483, jsmith1234 wrote:
In post 482, fuzzybutternut wrote:'cause that makes me scum.
It greatly increases the probability that you're scum.
Lol no it doesn't. Look at the setup of this game. It's actually BETTER for scum to No-Kill N1, so as to avoid accidentally killing the traitor.

I disagree.

1) Sakura's reasoning seems correct.
2) It allows potential goon cop to pick up reports for free.
3) It prevents mafia from removing threatening players (ex. obvious townies, town leaders, etc.).
4) Even if your reasoning is technically correct, this is probably something mafia wouldn't do, so probability still suggests you're more likely to be mafia than not.

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #489 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:40 am

In post 486, Sakura Hana wrote:Actually no, if they hit the traitor they will know because he didnt die.

traitor is 1-shot BP?
oh. I didn't know that.

*shrug* Still, not scum.

elleheathen · Post Post #490 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:38 am

In post 475, TheGreatOne wrote: I am the roleblocker, and I blocked fuzzybutternut last night.

So either TGO blocks fuzzy and stops a scum kill

or

scum hit their traitor - and that's if they didn't recruit the traitor.

ISO'ing fuzzy, his posts don't really look all that scummy but neither do they look town. A high activity but it's 60 some posts that don't really say much of anything. This game seems to be high on fluffloveee but I can't tell if that's friendly/normal or scumtell - especially since it's everyone.

The only thing that strikes me as really odd about fuzzy's posts are that there are a shitton of "Olook, bubba is flailing." comments but no actual line of questioning directed to him - which, in itself, has scum move written all over it.

I don't think we're going to know unless we see a fuzzy flip. And if he flips scum, we have two conf towns in TGO and jsmith. I like this option, since I can't read any of you guys for shit.

lol

VOTE: fuzzy

elleheathen · Post Post #491 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:47 am

In post 489, fuzzybutternut wrote: *shrug* Still, not scum.

That's about as beneficial as bubba's whole 'OMG IM TOWN SO TOWN IT HURTS TO BE TOWN' shpeel.

o0o but if the reverse is true...

notscience · Post Post #492 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:51 am

Doesn't scum know the traitor?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #493 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:52 am

In post 492, notscience wrote:Doesn't scum know the traitor?

No, there was a mistake on equinox's stacking the deck where the scum knew the traitor when they werent supposed to.

notscience · Post Post #494 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:59 am

In post 2, Tammy wrote:Welcome to Open 520, XXX!

You are a mafia 1-shot bulletproof traitor with YYY and ZZZ, who are mafia goons.

For the first attempt only, if you are targeted with any action that would result in your death, you will survive. This does not include lynches.

You win when all threats to the mafia have been eliminated, or when nothing can prevent such an occurrence, and at least one member of the mafia remains standing.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by responding to this PM with your alignment and role.

Reading the provided PMs in the wiki and OP it looks like they do.

What is Fuzzy at now in votes?

notscience · Post Post #495 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:59 am

Oh, I see what you mean.

jsmith1234 · Post Post #496 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:07 am

Fuzzy is at L-2.

notscience · Post Post #497 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:10 am

Okay.

I have a policy about L-1 votes this early in the day, so I'm not going to vote just yet, but it's there in spirit

fuzzybutternut · Post Post #498 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:23 am

In post 497, notscience wrote:Okay.

I have a policy about L-1 votes this early in the day, so I'm not going to vote just yet, but it's there in spirit

in spirit. lololol. <3

elleheathen · Post Post #499 (ISO) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:24 am

In post 497, notscience wrote: I have a policy about L-1 votes this early in the day, so I'm not going to vote just yet, but it's there in spirit

'It's five o'clock somewhere'?