Micro 214 -- Chosen Mafia (Game Over)

[Amrun]

For someone who thinks transparency = town, you're not being very transparent.

[runnerman]

I am trying but it's like I'm talking to a wall.

[Amrun]

You're actually NOT trying. It's a very simple, a-b-c question. If you were interested in being read correctly, as you professed, you would answer it. You have done this several times now, and your professed methods do not match up to what you're actually doing. Some things make me think you're town, but things like this do not.

[runnerman]

I don't think JKM and Alex are both scum because of their interaction in this game. But I think one of them is a good possibility, simple statistics and the fact that my wagon caught steam so quickly that it is very likely at least one scum is involved. Alex has been hiding behind oneliners and attempted some awkward buddying with JKM. JKM has been actively conversing. Alex is the scum.

[Alexcellent]

I don't think JKM and Alex are both scum because of their interaction in this game. But I think one of them is a good possibility, simple statistics and the fact that my wagon caught steam so quickly that it is very likely at least one scum is involved. Alex has been hiding behind oneliners and attempted some awkward buddying with JKM. JKM has been actively conversing. Alex is the scum.

Point out the buddying please. Your wagon caught steam because you appeared scummy.

[Narrow]

Maybe I’m tunnelling you without reason, but your play so far has come across as different.

You haven't elaborated on this, so could you talk about what you know of JKMatthews's play and what's giving you the impression that he's been different?

Also, you haven't yet answered this:

I would understand this mindset more if we were in a newbie game. It’s a small chance at best, and if someone quickhammers and runnerman flips town then we’ll probably know who the scum is.

Alexcellent, you're gambling a whole lot on this "probably" qualifier.

Admittedly, it wasn't phrased as a question, but I'm really interested in why you thought this given that the game had

just

started.

But I think one of them is a good possibility, simple statistics and the fact that my wagon caught steam so quickly that it is very likely at least one scum is involved.

Why have you so far only focused on people who were actively engaging the game? I jumped on your wagon and vanished soon afterward.

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Unvote

JKMatthews seems fairly obviously town. I don't like some of the things runnerman has done, like his F-16_Fighting_Falcon vote earlier or how he piggybacked F-16_Fighting_Falcon's Amrun case, but his recent interaction with JKMatthews actually feels genuine and sort of town-ish and I get the impression he's suffering from culture shock. Alexcellent had some good posts before when he was questioned about his interaction with me regarding my OhGodMyLife vote in that they read like he truly thought that not questioning me further was the right thing to do, but I don't like how he's been responding to JKMatthews and runnerman so far.

Anyway, I need to sleep on this game and mull stuff over. If the half of the game that hasn't posted substance yet could post (yes, I'm a hypocrite), that'd be sweet.

[Amrun]

Narrow, where is my fighting falcon case? Quote it. Why did you unvote without replacing a vote?

VOTE: alexcellent

"Appearing scummy" vs. "scummy"

[Jake from State Farm]

Shame on me, I've finally been convinced to watch breaking bad and I've spent every night watching episodes on Netflix. Still haven't read every iso yet but I'm unsure on amrun, given past games I always misread her when I should probably just sheep her.

That being said Alex was already standing out as he/she was the second iso I read so if I had to right now I'd vote for Alex, luckily I don't have to so ill keep re-reading.

Gut says Alex and Jk but I haven even read Jk's iso yet.

[Narrow]

Amrun, F-16_Fighting_Falcon hasn't made very many posts, so his case shouldn't be too hard to find. He promised more but has since vanished, but saying that you've been posting fluff is pretty much a case.

I'm not voting because I haven't decided where I want it, and there are some cards I'm keeping facedown for the moment.

[RedCoyote]

Vote Count 1 - 4

• Alexcellent

  (3) (

  JKMatthews

  - hohum - runnerman - Amrun)[/size]
  
  
  runnerman
  (2) (Alexcellent -

  Amrun

  -

  Narrow

  - JKMatthews)
  
  
  Amrun
  (1) (F-16_Fighting_Falcon -

  runnerman

  )
  
  
  F-16_Fighting_Falcon

  (0) (

  Amrun

  )
  
  
  JKMatthews

  (0) (

  runnerman

  )
  
  
  Not Voting
  (3) (Jake From State Farm - OhGodMyLife - Narrow)

With nine alive, it takes five to lynch.
Current Deadline:

(expired on 2013-08-26 11:17:00)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

Prod-dodging. Sorry. Been really busy irl.

[Amrun]

Narrow, I totally read that post backwards, disregard.

Saying I've been "flufflposting" is not a case, though. It's also not remotely true.

[Alexcellent]

Maybe I’m tunnelling you without reason, but your play so far has come across as different.

You haven't elaborated on this, so could you talk about what you know of JKMatthews's play and what's giving you the impression that he's been different?

Just little things. His post 52 is the major thing that's thrown me off. It makes sense and I understand why but for some reason I felt like if he thought Runnerman was scummy enough to vote, he'd have done it anyway. But his more recent games in his meta match up with the post if that makes sense. To be honest, I don't have much to go on there.

Also, you haven't yet answered this:

I would understand this mindset more if we were in a newbie game. It’s a small chance at best, and if someone quickhammers and runnerman flips town then we’ll probably know who the scum is.

Alexcellent, you're gambling a whole lot on this "probably" qualifier.

Admittedly, it wasn't phrased as a question, but I'm really interested in why you thought this given that the game had

just

started.

Yeah, it's a gamble I guess. I don't see it being a huge risk though. I just doubt that one or two people would come into the game, read enough of the game to decide to vote someone without even checking the vote count first. Although I guess it has happened, it's just not common.

I've been playing pretty poorly here recently/not paying attention etc I'll up my game.

[Alexcellent]

Okay, I have no work for a few days, so I should be able to post more and work at being a less terrible townie. I haven't exactly been playing this game seriously, going to make more of an effort...

@Runnerman...

Alex definitely the fishiest person atm. But is still congruent with possibly being town.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: F-16_Fighting_Falcon

Because he is only made one post and the first day we need to hear from everyone? MAfia 101?

Amrun conveniently wagoning is noted.

This is the reason I voted you and other people did too. I'm curious as to why you voted F-16 to begin with though. Even if you were voting just to pressure him and hear more from him, why him? There were other people that hadn't posted at all, what made you choose F-16?
What do you currently think of Amrun?
And you think there's scum in JKM and myself - is there any reason outside of statistics and the fact that we both voted for you?

[Jake from State Farm]

Got to re-read Jk's iso finally, he's not scum

vote: f-16

I don't agree with his points about amrun at all and that's all he's managed to contribute.

[OhGodMyLife]

My lack of presence here is shameful but I'm much too drunk to do anything about it tonight.

[hohum]

just got back into town. I'll catch up tonight and post by tomorrow morning

[hohum]

you know what I'm caught up and I agree with Amrun.

Vote runnerman

[Alexcellent]

you know what I'm caught up and I agree with Amrun.

Vote runnerman

You agree with Amrun, who is currently voting for me, and then you vote Runnerman?

[Jake from State Farm]

you know what I'm caught up and I agree with Amrun.

Vote runnerman

how about something a little bit more substantial considering your iso is also lacking content.

what specifically do you agree with? do you have any original thoughts of your own to add to her points?

[JKMatthews]

Ok, so now that Alex is "taking this game a little more seriously" he's reading more town to me... that's just gut though. (for people who don't know, Alex and I know each other irl and play a lot of Resistance together... so there may be a lot of personality tells there that don't make sense). Alex is being more genuine and asking questions rather than dicking around... it could be that he's realised he's been caught and needs to clean up his act, but it reads as genuine to me.

Also,
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jake
Your ISO is less than impressive...

[Jake from State Farm]

But I'm a replacement trying to catch up, f16 and hohum have been here since day 1.

See the difference?

[Jake from State Farm]

Shit hit post too soon.

Meant to add, my Iso is hands down better than those 2

[Amrun]

It is day 1, we're on page 6, and OGML began the game on v/la and hohum is returning from v/la. That's no excuse for your shit of an ISO.

Fucking hell, I need another vote.

[Jake from State Farm]

Just clarifying, Are you calling my iso shit?