NY 166: Knight-Errant 18p - Game Over!


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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:30 am

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In post 1197, Metal Sonic wrote:because the serial killer is going to act differently from scum

yeah those people hunting for the serial killer need to be lynched its a bullshit scum move


scum is scum town is town

serial killer falls under "scum"
I agree with this...

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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:38 am

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HD is at L-2, we have 8 hours left
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:51 am

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In post 1199, KX wrote:Dopog, wasn't that, like, fuckin' exactly my theory, except mine covered more cases, the subject fit better, and overall it made more sense? And if you really think Eddie is SK, shouldn't we lynch him first, eliminate a kill etc?

VOTE: HD

not one of my top three, but oh well, I don't object, kinda like it actually, and no last reads is pretty damn scummy.
...you mean other than the ones I've already given?

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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:56 am

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i mean ones that make sense
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:09 am

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In post 1203, Marquis wrote:i mean ones that make sense
:neutral:

Oh, and spoiler alert, I'm not self-hammering.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:18 am

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Vote Count 2.13

Human Destroyer (6) - The Purple Rose, Evil Regals, oriole, Hopkirk, notscience, KX
Metal Sonic (2) - meeps, Abdelrahman
oriole (2) - dopog, Marquis
beastcharizard (1) - Shattered Viewpoint
Shattered Viewpoint (1) - Metal Sonic
KX (1) - Human Destroyer
dopog (1) - EddieFenix

Not Voting (1) - beastcharizard

Countdown:
(expired on 2013-08-29 17:00:00)

15 alive, 8 to lynch.
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 am

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Last reads is generally more then just a few vaguely stated scumreads, just fyi.
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:22 am

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Scum/SK should kill KX because he'll kill whichever team he isn't on
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:01 am

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Somebody seems mad. you realize cross-fire is something
good
for the town, right? you still haven't been able to defend yourself btw. can I take that as a confession of scum?
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:29 am

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In post 1206, KX wrote:Last reads is generally more then just a few vaguely stated scumreads, just fyi.
In post 1108, Human Destroyer wrote:also scumreads right now are KX, Purple Rose, and Hopkirk (mostly because Baldrick)
:neutral:
That doesn't look very vague to me.
I think I'm fairly clear about who my scumreads are.
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:39 am

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tbf, that was four pages ago when you didn't have any votes on you. And around that time you criticized Marquis and Abdel as well, going so far as to imply Marquis as scum. There are four scum left in the game, so thoughts on people other then those three? And any strong town reads you wouldn't like to see lynched? Idk HD, I'm just not seeing any wish to help at all, which is weird for you.
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:13 am

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@Oriole, the three main points you seem to have are: A. the contradiction between saying that a fakehammer was obvious, but in other places showing doubt in it and using it as a reason for my suspicion. B. showing doubt in it being a fakehammer, and then saying an actual hammer attempt seemed townie, but still calling scum. C. NotSci being the single scummiest person, but my not making a case for him ASAP.

Should be relatively simple. For A, it's just a misunderstanding. What I meant when I said the fakehammer was obvious was that SV
claiming
it was a fakehammer was the obvious choice for him. Even if a legit hammer attempt seems more like something a town would do, it's also extremely anti-town in nature. And as for the lying problem in saying something other then what it was, if you'd lynch somebody like that, I doubt you'd have any qualms with lying.

B. The key there is that a hammer like that only seemed townie if it was based purely on reads. I doubt it was actually a fakehammer, reaction doesn't seem right at all as if it was, and so I'm guessing the more likely option is that SV knew Beast's claim was a fakeclaim. Now, it could be because SV is a PR, Scum, or SK, doesn't really matter. Either way, Beast is confirmed PR/Scum, while there is a slight chance SV is just an idiot townie, hence why SV should be lynched first. If SV is a PR, then he just claims before lynch, and Beast is lynched instead. If it is either of the SK or Scum possibilities, then good for us, it pretty much confirms both players as scum.

That kinda brings me into point C. I personally think some form of counter-claim option is far more likely then a fakehammer, and still more likely then an idiot townie, meaning odds are both SV and Beast are scum. You'll notice I was planning on having a NotSci case be my top priority until the fakehammer thing came up. I personally think two likely scum, one of who would be SK, is a better option then one player who, I admit, could be just plain awful at this game.

Does that explain everything?
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:03 pm

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Hey Beast, we got two hours left, why are you not voting?
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:07 pm

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Sorry, trying to catch up in other games and PO at the same time. I am super tired too. At least the night is day is going to be ending soon so I can focus on other things.

VOTE: HD[/unvote]
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:08 pm

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Beast, you're drunk. vote properly and then go home.
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:12 pm

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And I'm serious on this, I know you just posted a completely coherent message in another game a mere three minutes before making that post. Literally nobody actually types out vote tags, the only way they could mess up like that, so don't try to bullshit your way out of voting with me.
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:19 pm

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ok cool he logged off, I'm just calling it now, Beast/HD/NotSci scumteam 2013. SV would nicely fit into this as SK as well.
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:22 pm

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ya hd is still a bad lynch, not like i can do anything to stop it at this point

also i type out vote tags js

also i looked over and you asked me a question or something kx i'll try to answer it later it possible
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:25 pm

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hey meeps, I heard you like no lynches.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:29 pm

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nah, i just think there are better targets to lynch than hd

the only valid reason i could see for lynching hd is a pl for inactivity, which is still a bullshit reason to lynch him.

if he were scum his reactions would prob be different. then again he hasn't cared much at all for this game tbh
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:34 pm

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In post 1210, KX wrote:tbf, that was four pages ago when you didn't have any votes on you.
Does this make them less valid?
In post 1210, KX wrote:And around that time you criticized Marquis and Abdel as well, going so far as to imply Marquis as scum.
I think they're making bad posts, not scummy posts.
There is, believe it or not, a difference.
In post 1210, KX wrote:There are four scum left in the game, so thoughts on people other then those three? And any strong town reads you wouldn't like to see lynched? Idk HD, I'm just not seeing any wish to help at all, which is weird for you.
Strong town reads?

From what I recall in this game, I really don't want to lynch oriole, Abdelrahman, Marquis, Metal Sonic, Evil Regals, and dopog. Maybe beastcharizard too but less so.
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:39 pm

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hey meeps, hint, anybody who isn't confirmed town is a better lynch then a no lynch. at worst we lynch an inactive town and gain information, and at best we lynch scum. this is basic, a no lynch is almost the worst thing town can do in a NOC.

@HD, I suppose not, but wagon analysis is pretty common among those about to be lynched. Thought maybe you'd have gained a little insight. Did you know, HD, that implying town reads are scum can be pretty damn confusing for those trying to find your opinions? And you still haven't explained who your pick for the fourth scum would be.
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:40 pm

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that leaves the scum (KX, Purple Rose, Hopkirk) and the grey area (Shattered Viewpoint, EddieFenix, notscience)

p-edit: I was getting to that -.-
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:41 pm

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In post 1221, KX wrote:@HD, I suppose not, but wagon analysis is pretty common among those about to be lynched.
Really?
You're talking to the wrong person then. I stopped doing in-depth wagon analyses a long time ago cause they don't seem to work for me.
In post 1221, KX wrote:Did you know, HD, that implying town reads are scum can be pretty damn confusing for those trying to find your opinions?
I don't believe I ever actually implied they were scum. I only implied their points were bad, as I recall.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:44 pm

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also, I figure it would be a good idea to mention that Beast posted in another game at :27, so he's confirmed avoiding HD's wagon despite claiming to be fine with voting HD to prevent a no lynch earlier on in the game.

@HD, are those three reads neutral, scum lean, town lean. please, detail. And I suppose asking for reasons would be too much? Forgive me, I had no clue you didn't like wagon analysis. And forgive me, you're right on the second point, I misread #1139

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