Newbie 1420: Fireproof (Game Over)

[Wisdom]

That isn't how it works. You don't lose if you are lynched; you also have a partner. You are fakeclaiming cop in hopes of drawing counterclaims so that your partner knows who the PRs are. You get me lynched today - tomorrow is 5p lylo, you will then get inevitably lynched, and then your partner makes it to 3p lylo, which is very close to winning.

That is why everyone should shut up and not counterclaim. Lynch me and lynch VT tomorrow, but don't give out your roles.

[VT]

I deliberately dropped hints that I was cop with a guilty this whole time, and I tunneled on Wisdom on and off. Mara I was trying to get you to realize that I was the cop.

So there's a 25% chance Wisdom is the role blocker. If he is then doctor should save me and this is basically our win. If there is a doctor but Wisdom is the normal mafia (25%), doctor should still save me (unless you want to reverse psychology thinking the mafia will not attempt to kill me, rather roleblock me)

But obviously there's also a 50% chance that there is no doctor, no roleblocker, and I will just die.

Let's see how this goes..

[notscience]

VT are you from PO

[Wisdom]

And btw, a tip for the next time you decide to fakeclaim Cop; claim your "guilty" at the beginning of the day. 90% of the time cop fakeclaims are caught for this reason. There's no way you're coming from a night that you learned who the scum is and this isn't the first thing you announce - much less vote someone else.

[VT]

That isn't how it works. You don't lose if you are lynched; you also have a partner. You are fakeclaiming cop in hopes of drawing counterclaims so that your partner knows who the PRs are. You get me lynched today - tomorrow is 5p lylo, you will then get inevitably lynched, and then your partner makes it to 3p lylo, which is very close to winning.

That is why everyone should shut up and not counterclaim. Lynch me and lynch VT tomorrow, but don't give out your roles.

Sorry Wisdom but no one's going to counterclaim anyway unless your partner wants to lose

I already said, if ANYONE counterclaims me I should be lynched, not you. Because that's autowin since I'm town.

Let's assume I'm mafia:

I get lynched, my partner kills (if he is even able to O_O) and if that PR still somehow has not provided useful information yet, my partner would be in a village of 5, with two ML's. That's not optimal at all

Wisdom stop trying to make it seem like you're town by giving yourself up for lynch. It's smart, but you're already cornered

[Prophylaxis]

Man Wisdom, you're good.

Vote Wisdom

[Wisdom]

Nope, your partner would be in a village of 3, because I get lynched today and you get lynched tomorrow.
If the town does not counterclaim, they have a chance of catching your partner during the night with PRs, and that's why they shouldn't.

[notscience]

Tell us, oh great and wise wisdom, if VT is scum who is VT's partner?

[Prophylaxis]

Unvote

Did I hammer you?

[notscience]

Um prophy

wat

[VT]

What's PO

And btw, a tip for the next time you decide to fakeclaim Cop; claim your "guilty" at the beginning of the day. 90% of the time cop fakeclaims are caught for this reason. There's no way you're coming from a night that you learned who the scum is and this isn't the first thing you announce - much less vote someone else.

In real life mafia, the way that I normally play, I wait a bit before I announce who the scum I investigated was. The reason I do this is because I want to see who the scum is interacting with, and also hopefully, what I was trying to do, was get you lynched without having to claim. It was looking promising when Proph was feeling scum on you, Mara was starting to pick up my cop softing, and Banakai voting you plus notscience hardtunneling on you, but I realized that when suspicion started dissipating on you that I had to hardclaim since my softing was probably already making it very obvious that I was PR.

I wanted to announce it. Believe me, I wanted to go "OH YEAH HAHAHAHA WISDOM WAS MAFIA, screw everyone that hardcore townread him" but I wanted to see if I could get you lynched.

So I pushed arguments on you, I pinned you down with the help of notscience, and tunneled you on and off. I made arguments from thin air and I began to pry away at the remains of your scummish presence, hoping to gain followers.

But alas, it didn't work, so I had to claim cop.

I mean I could've done it a bit later, but whatever.

Hey, it was fun tunneling you

[Wisdom]

Tell us, oh great and wise wisdom, if VT is scum who is VT's partner?

Either you or Banakai, but I'm having trouble seeing her defending you so much if it's you.
I hope town will figure that out with PRs.

[notscience]

That's a no

VT if you're town we definately need to play more games together

[VT]

Nope, your partner would be in a village of 3, because I get lynched today and you get lynched tomorrow.
If the town does not counterclaim, they have a chance of catching your partner during the night with PRs, and that's why they shouldn't.

If anyone counterclaims me, I already said that I will selfvote and decry everyone who attempts to vote you instead of me

So no. Village of 5.

[Wisdom]

Nope. No counterclaims. They lynch me today, lynch you tomorrow, and then it's 3p lylo. I hope they will have caught your partner until then.

[Prophylaxis]

I hope I didn't hammer. I haven't even read the thread yet.

Leave scum!Wisdom alone. I need time to analyze.

[notscience]

In case it isn't obvious this is Wis coaching his scumbuddy not to CC to try and save him which means that Mara isn't scum, and I don't think Feel it is.

[VT]

Unvote

Did I hammer you?

Uh this doesnt make any sense whatsoever

Anyway I've definitely townread all of you except Banakai at some point so here are my reads when I die from scum to town:

Banakai
notscience
Proph
Mara
Feel It

Bleh the middle three have been all over the place but banakai will remain #1 and feel it will remain #5

[VT]

That's a no

VT if you're town we definately need to play more games together

a) Yes we should. You and Wisdom are my favs this whole game for sure
b) Why the if? You're literally like 99% on me town and 99% on wisdom scum, and now that I have a guilty on him, why the if?
c) You wouldn't play more game with me if I was scum? Why not? See if I could pull this off as scum my ego would be sky high

[VT]

I hope I didn't hammer. I haven't even read the thread yet.

Leave scum!Wisdom alone. I need time to analyze.

What good would an unvote do if you actually had already hammered

And if you needed time to analyze, why did you vote Wisdom so quickly in the first place

[notscience]

Because this whole day has been so hilarious and your style is kinda similar to mine it is amazing

I have to have the "if" there for political reasonings

And if you're scum you have an insanely good scumgame and I'd probably be too busy crying

Pedit VT because Prophy's his scumbuddy I'll bet money

[Prophylaxis]

Unvote

Did I hammer you?

Uh this doesnt make any sense whatsoever

I'm afraid of hammering Wisdom because then the game would immediately go to Night, costing us precious reread time.

@Preview: I didn't want scum!Wisdom to hammer himself.

The moment that I voted Wisdom was me thinking "Oh yay! We caught scum!" and I typed up those words without thinking.

[notscience]

Oh btw that "bet money" bit is a joke

my b

[notscience]

Yeah it's Wis/Prophy

"Yeah we caught scum!" then needs time to think about that caught scum?

lolnah

[VT]

Lol notscience you're the best

I'm actually still slightly paranoid you're wisdoms partner and are just a super mega boss

Like you're almost unnaturally sure he's scum at times

See I had a reason to death tunnel him; I knew for a fact he was scum

You probably think he's scum but you being that sure is slightly alarming

Though everything else about you is town so I'm not too worried

Idk I think proph might be town actually

Banakai is my recommended lynch for tomorrow anyway

Worst case scenario is a 3way between notscience Mara and proph