Open 520: Stacking the Deck Part II - Game Over...Mafia Win!

[Saki]

I'm not putting a vote down because I can't be around to unvote like that

[Mutleyddmc]

The fact everyone has spoken I havent been quick hammered. Means it is likely you and elle are scum. I just have to make sure its not elle and lucky now

[Saki]

I'm town, mutley
I thought elle claimed tracker, though

[Mutleyddmc]

she claimed goon cop. A very easy fake claim

[Saki]

ah okay

[Lucky2u]

she claimed goon cop. A very easy fake claim

So you don't like her claim?

[Tammy]

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Vote Count 5.03

Mutley (1) - elleheathen
Saki (1) - lucky2u

Not Voting (3) - notscience, saki, Mutleyddmc

With 5 alive, it's 3 to lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, September 18 2013, at 6:28 PM CDT (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2013-09-18 07:29:45).

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[Mutleyddmc]

No I do not. Especially now. I had sort of convinced my self that mafia would go all 3. However they could go 2. So they get a fake claim chance that wouldn't be CC. The fact I am not hammered and you NS and saki have all been around, lead me to believe that it is a fake claim, especially with how quickly the vote got put down. I think it was a case of put the vote down and make it a 1 vs 1 as no hammer will happen, as it's pretty much prob me or Elle for today's lynch now. As she is unCC (as they prob only chose 2 powers) she prob assumes it was an easy win.

No I've got to figure out which one of lucky and saki is scum. Note I am leaning heavy saki

[notscience]

Mutt if they only took two powers what did they pick?

Also, what makes you so sure I'm town?

[Mutleyddmc]

No idea my friend no idea. PoE. You are 100% but the way things have gone, you don't make sense for many partners yet, well except Elle.

[Mutleyddmc]

Actually you two could have hammered saki.

Or actually the lack of hammers could indicate a traitor?

[elleheathen]

The 'very easy fake claim' would have been vt. Why would I claim a role as scum that would actually limit the possibilities I would have - and not only that, if it were actually a fake claim, I'd have come in to today claiming I had a goon result on someone, opposed to clearing someone else as a not goon.

[Lucky2u]

Actually you two could have hammered saki.

Or actually the lack of hammers could indicate a traitor?

The fact that none of the players have teamed up and one two hammered Saki means either Saki or I am scum.

[Mutleyddmc]

Not really because we have one goon down. And at least 2 powers chosen. So very unlikely the other 2 are goons. Either you aren't lying and prob both roles. Or one role and one traitor.

Claiming goon would have got you found out

[Lucky2u]

Seeing as the possibility also existed when mutt was the lone vote, I think this is evidence of Saki scum.

[Mutleyddmc]

Actually you two could have hammered saki.

Or actually the lack of hammers could indicate a traitor?

The fact that none of the players have teamed up and one two hammered Saki means either Saki or I am scum.

True or one of me and Elle.

However we are forgetting possibility of traitors making it harder to team up

[elleheathen]

What is evidence of Saki scum?
Mut said he claimed scum and never replied when I asked where? Did I miss something?

[Mutleyddmc]

Basically saki has never questioned your claim of good cop. However he was calling NS and Sakura town. Therefore implying you were scum (but he hasn't questioned the truth in your claim) therefore meaning he was calling me and him the scum team

[Mutleyddmc]

If Elle is telling the truth. That means its impossible to have a traitor. Which means the lack of quick hammer is down to her being scum.

I believe saki to be scum but there's no way Elle is telling the truth

VOTE: Elle

[Lucky2u]

I'm not used to this setup, can you go slow and explain the logic behind that again?

[elleheathen]

Saki hasn't questioned much of anything all game - idk, I read that post as him saying that you and I were scum, not you and him.

[Mutleyddmc]

Right we had a goon flip.

We have had 4 PR flips. Which guarantees that there is at least 2 improvements to the scum team.

Elle has claimed goon cop. There fore claiming that scum have 3 extra powers.

There is not an out come where you can have a confirmed goon 5 PRs and a traitor.

Therefore the lack of hammer is not down to a traitor and the communication.

Therefore it is one of me and Elle from everyone else's perspective, and therefore to me Elle is confirmed scum.

[Mutleyddmc]

Saki hasn't questioned much of anything all game - idk, I read that post as him saying that you and I were scum, not you and him.

But he's not saying you are lying. Therefore he's calling you town too. Therefore give 4 people town passes as such.

[Mutleyddmc]

I need to read how Elle claimed

[elleheathen]

What are you talking about? I'm the one that said ages ago that there was no way scum could have a traitor. You're the one that fought me on it.