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Post #825 (ISO ) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:25 pm
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by Katsuki » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:25 pm
If you add M5.PGG sure.
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Post #826 (ISO ) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:13 pm
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by BBmolla » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:13 pm
In post 823 , Katsuki wrote: MMR has been full of retards in my past 100 games too.
Though I hear from friends that IXDL is full of whiners and ragers so I dunno how much better IH league would be.
I played in one with a player draft and such to form teams that was fun. Played with 1437 in it after Korok randomly joined.
Maybe Reddit Dota League? I know the actor who plays Ender in Ender's Game plays in it.
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Post #827 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:31 am
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by Redelphic » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:31 am
Does MafiaScum have a dota guild? Or you all just meet up on steam?
Also I was wondering, how do I join a 5v5 game that isn't ranked? I have been playing co-op bot matches but that is getting annoying.
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Post #828 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:34 am
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by Natirasha » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:34 am
The entirety of matchmaking isn't ranked...
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
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Post #829 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:40 am
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by Redelphic » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:40 am
Well coop bot matches have let me improve my hero pool without getting raged at.
What I mean is stat's like win/loss, don't these affect your queue spot?
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Post #830 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:23 am
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by JDodge » Mon Sep 16, 2013 11:23 am
In post 829 , Redelphic wrote: Well coop bot matches have let me improve my hero pool without getting raged at.
What I mean is stat's like win/loss, don't these affect your queue spot?
i would assume (and this is full-on assumption, someone feel free to correct me if dota 2 matchmaking is weird somehow) that there is a hidden matchmaking rating (MMR) that is used to attempt to place you with players of your own skill level; while at the very bottom and very top of the curve theres
theoretically
longer queue times, the queue times shouldnt be significantly different between skill levels (and as a bonus, the more games you play, the quicker you'll get to what would be considered your "true" mmr, meaning you'll
theoretically
get better matches)
stream
ffxiv/speedrunning sometimes/other things?
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Post #831 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:34 pm
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by Natirasha » Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:34 pm
You're pretty much right on the money, JDodge.
There are four tiers of matchmaking. Normal, High, Very High, Low Priority. You're win/loss does effect your MMR, but it's not visible to anyone--and only you can see your w/l record, which is a change from games like HoN. Queue times are about the same outside of Low Priority and Very High though.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
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Post #832 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:26 pm
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by BBmolla » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:26 pm
You can see what tier you're in if you go to "View Recent Games" or whatever, type in your name, and then choose a bracket. It'll show games you've played in that bracket.
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Post #833 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:47 pm
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by Katsuki » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:47 pm
I'm pretty sure there are varying amounts to "Very High", because in june-aug, I was getting nothing other than "Very Retarded" and "Huehueperuviandoto". The "skill brackets" in themselves aren't totally descriptive.
The skill level between the "Very High" on my smurf and the "Very High" on my main also differs drastically.
tl;dr, the tiers dota2 uses really suck.
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Post #834 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:04 pm
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by Staeg » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:04 pm
Yes, they do - Very High is top 20% iirc, and that's mostly plebs still
sa vrede?
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Post #835 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:07 pm
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by Katsuki » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:07 pm
20%?! That explains a lot.
Dotabuff used to have a nice % ranking thing as well as ELO, but valve took issue to it and shortly got removed. They had more specific categories ranging from diamond, platinum, etc., with diamond being top 1%, plat 95-99% (I think), so on.
Fluffy fluffy~~~ |
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Katsuki is by far more absurdly beautiful than Fate.
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Post #836 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:08 pm
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by Shamrock » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:08 pm
VH is top 4%, High is the 16% below that, I believe.
There aren't actually brackets, they are just arbitrary numbers at which the invisible MMR system is broken up.
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Post #837 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:25 pm
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by Staeg » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:25 pm
Huh
Research shows
Very High : 03.5%
High : 16.5%
Normal : 80.0%
When the hell did this get changed
sa vrede?
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Post #838 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:32 pm
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by Shamrock » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:32 pm
They made VH smaller at some point but I don't think it was ever 20%.
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Post #839 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:59 pm
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by Katsuki » Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:59 pm
Apparently my googling skills suck since I can't find any resources on the matter.
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Katsuki is by far more absurdly beautiful than Fate.
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Post #840 (ISO ) » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:23 pm
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by BBmolla » Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:23 pm
In post 345 , BBmolla wrote: Mine was 1867ish, Platinum league, 98% better than everyone else. Don't remember exact number. Thought it was fairly high when I discussed it with others who I knew, especially when looking at the percentage.
Wish Valve didn't put a stop to the MMR system, I'd like to see where I am now. Cause I'd bet money I'm lower than I was at this time.
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Post #841 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:11 am
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by inte » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:11 am
hon was a very elitist community because of mmr, though
i hope something of their own creation gets implemented
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Post #842 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:46 am
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by Katsuki » Tue Sep 17, 2013 8:46 am
There should be no reason to not be able to see your own ELO though.
Their argument is that ELO tends to plateau, and people will think they're not improving at that point even if they still are. It's one of various reasons provided but still.
Fluffy fluffy~~~ |
"READING KATSUKI IS LIKE SOME SORT OF POSTMODERN ARTFORM"
- GreyICE
Katsuki is by far more absurdly beautiful than Fate.
(hai parama)
Katsuki's Madness coming to you shortly: Nov, 2011!
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Post #843 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:00 am
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by Redelphic » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:00 am
In post 831 , Natirasha wrote: You're win/loss does effect your MMR, but it's not visible to anyone--and only you can see your w/l record
You just made my day!
I recently tried out Nyx Assassin and Vengeful Spirit, the latter being a nice fit and probably one of my go-to supports from now on.
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Post #844 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:36 am
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by ArcAngel9 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:36 am
^ not really, if you're in DOTA BLUFF
any one can see your WIN rating... My current win rating is 49.94%
I always get a team that usually feeds
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Post #845 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:49 am
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by BBmolla » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:49 am
You can change a setting in game that prevents Dotabuff from recieving your stats if you'd like.
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Post #846 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:02 pm
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by Natirasha » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:02 pm
Actually, you have to change the setting to allow Dotabuff to see them--it's turned off by default.
Natirasha is just a vestige, it's Contessa now.
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Post #847 (ISO ) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:37 pm
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by ArcAngel9 » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:37 pm
tats right
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Post #848 (ISO ) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:42 pm
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by BBmolla » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:42 pm
Me, AA, and Kats playing if anyone wants to join us.
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Post #849 (ISO ) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:03 pm
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by ArcAngel9 » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:03 pm
and it was fun!!!!
but i played bad compare to molla and kats but it was honor playing with players with high skill
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