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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:11 pm

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Yeah, but that would be a lot more complicated than it sounds
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:06 pm

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also UGH
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I put off things to watch worlds today and forgot they are on a day off and its on again tomorrow ;(
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:06 pm

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In post 384, zoraster wrote:The top two of each group go on, so they do control their destiny.
Control of your destiny means that you don't need other teams to win in games you're not playing in. For instance, if you're 1-3 and there's a 4-0 and a 3-1, you're not in control of your own destiny. Even if you 4-0 the remaining 4 games, that's only good enough for a 5-3. So you need the other two teams to lose specific matches to still have a shot.

TSM still has control over their own destiny... but they need a 4-0.
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 3:16 pm

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Maybe you have the number of wins wrong for TSM, GI? If TSM goes 4-0, they'll be 6-2 at the end, not 5-3. Which is why they controlled their own destiny as of last night, when they were 2-1 and about to face SKT1.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:32 pm

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Zor, they can't just ditch Regi because TSM is the team that has qualified for LCS, etc. They'd have to re-qualify for LCS, leave the TSM house, etc. It'd be a major uprooting in their lives.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:41 pm

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In post 403, zoraster wrote:Maybe you have the number of wins wrong for TSM, GI? If TSM goes 4-0, they'll be 6-2 at the end, not 5-3. Which is why they controlled their own destiny as of last night, when they were 2-1 and about to face SKT1.
Your reading comprehension here is amazing.

Please read what I wrote again.

That or your math is off... since if TSM go 4-0 they are guaranteed a spot.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:50 pm

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What is the tie breaker for ties? Do they have a playoff? Because if TSM went 4-0 and STK1 won all but against TSM, then there'd be three teams at 6-2, assuming OMG win their other two matches.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:59 pm

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Single Game playoff, assuming that a team does not hold a 2-0 record over the other team.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 11:23 pm

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In post 401, Brandi wrote:also UGH
I trolled myself
I put off things to watch worlds today and forgot they are on a day off and its on again tomorrow ;(
It almost got me as well. Intended to stay up all night and watch the games again, but changed my mind halfway through. Lucky me.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:14 am

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TSM still controls their destiny if they win out, but some help from other teams would be greatly appreciated.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:05 pm

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They came into Worlds Samsung Galaxy Ozone. They leave MVP White.

God that's why being a fan of them is such a rollercoaster.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Thu Sep 19, 2013 7:13 pm

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Fnatic has been stomping teams apart from their first game loss vs Vulcun. Looking really strong.

Not liking the tendency to surrender from Ozone... Seems really lame...
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:49 am

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idk, most have been in situations where their team was down and the nexus turrets were open. It's not as if they can fight for that upset then. It's hard to call it lame when they are saying "yes, you are a good team, you'll close out the game now while we are down".
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:04 am

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Big night for TSM. If they at least beat SKT, they have a shot at a playoff at least, assuming OMG doesn't deliberately lose the last game of group stage to SKT.

TSM goes 3-1(only losing to OMG) and SKT goes 2-2 losing to OMG and TSM, that's a playoff. That math doesn't work if they beat OMG and lose to SKT though.

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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 2:55 am

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but can they beat skt? It's no secret where tsm's weak spot is, and that's where skt's focal point lies already, where they try to win the game from. It seems like a poor matchup before they've even picked champions.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:13 am

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It's looking pretty solidly like OMG/SKT/Fnatic/Gambit at this point. I don't think TSM can handle faker or lovelin, and the Europeans have been looking crazy strong.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:23 am

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If Fnatic wins just one more game they clinch a spot in the quarterfinals, and they play Mineski tomorrow.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:25 am

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Gambit has two heavy matches in front of them though. I'm not convinced after their earlier attempt against fnatic, that felt forced. I assume they'll be heavily prepared for vulcun though, that's going to be something to watch. It's usually cool to watch gambit in a game where it's make or break. Whether that's still in the bag for vulcun then depends on the game vs ozone, but idk, I'm more pumped to watch vulcun-gambit.

If gambit manages to beat fnatic, this is all just rambling, and I'd be pleasantly surprised.

Group A I agree with you. I'd be disappointed if SKT and OMG didn't make it.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:30 am

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I'm rooting for Vulcun, but it seems pretty likely that the current top 4 will be the teams that move on to quarterfinals.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:27 am

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Yeah, Vulcun will have to beat both Gambit and Ozone and rely on them losing their last two matches.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 8:52 am

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In post 419, kdowns wrote:Yeah, Vulcun will have to beat both Gambit and Ozone and rely on them losing their last two matches.
It's hardly a stretch, Fnatic can beat both reliably?
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 9:26 am

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Vulcun still controls their destiny, though. If they win those two games they will be either tied with or ahead of Gambit and ahead of Ozone.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:43 am

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In post 416, Bub Bidderskins wrote:If Fnatic wins just one more game they clinch a spot in the quarterfinals, and they play Mineski tomorrow.
So you're saying they have to win a game tomorrow knowing they'll be losing one already?
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:35 pm

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How good is Royal Club? Are they decidedly better than OMG, the strongest-looking team in groups?
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:26 pm

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