Mobile Suit Gundam SEED Mafia - Game Over

[kanyeknowsbest]

yall need to stop throwing around townbloc this townbloc that cus its fucking dumb.simple tiP: vote for scum and comment on cases you like or dislike.

[talah]

I'm doing wagon formation and supporting folks I think are town, simultaneously checking out what they think and updating those reads and putting pressure on scum and town to perform.

You're blandly branding folks as scum or town and giving your opinion on gameplay.

You're my bird in the hand unless you do something more than grandstand.

[Kdub]

Day 1 - Vote Count #11

DrDolittle (0)

-

kanyeknowsbest (0)

-

Belisarius (1)

- Kalimar

waynegg (0)

-

pieguyn (1)

- Belisarius

AGar (0)

-

PeregrineV (0)

-

leviathan93 (1)

- AGar

Kise (0)

-

Empking (2)

- dopog, DrDolittle

Majiffy (4)

- DeasVail, PeregrineV, NachoKoopa, Sakura Hana

dopog (0)

-

Sakura Hana (3)

- Matias, kanyeknowsbest, Empking

NachoKoopa (3)

- Natirasha, talah, pieguyn

DeasVail (1)

- mastin2

Matias (0)

-

Mac (0)

-

talah (1)

- waynegg

Natirasha (0)

-

mastin2 (0)

-

Kalimar (0)

-

No lynch (0)

-

Not voting (4)

- Kise, Majiffy, Mac, leviathan93

21 votes available
11 votes needed to lynch

V/LA: Kalimar (10/2)

Deadline: (expired on 2013-10-18 12:44:27)

[DeasVail]

To those that seem to think otherwise, the Majiffy wagon was never, at least for me, about lack of activity, but the really awkward reason given for not posting. If he's busy as town he'll say he's busy, not make up something about RVS, which is still what I suspect he's done. To someone who's actually read my post, this should be obvious, so I think that Majiffy claiming that the wagon on him is about a lack of posts, when I think he would notice that there were actual reasons for it from at least Talah and myself, is scummy. I don't like the continued justification for it in 275 either.

I've actually got a weak townread on Nacho, and I don't think I've ever strongly townread him at this stage of the game, so I'm ok with him so far.

[Empking]

however, now you're implying it's not?

No. I'm just saying that in the post where you thought I was implying it was serious I was implying nothing of the sort. It is serious, but in that particular post I wasn't making an issue of it's seriousness.

[waynegg]

^ heh, nice. No doubt you're town now, I'm glad that my townread on you is correct

Your deflection comment on Empking occurred to me as well. I guess what I've learned about Empking, is that he responds well to pressure, so if he's not contributing, he definitely should be wagoned, preferably baselessly.

Although if one *really* wanted a base at this point - it's interesting that the deflection is onto the other player I named as a possible wagon (Beli), onto Sakura (current wagonbait), references Majiffy's indignance to support 'baseless wagon = bad' (where it's not, it gives some great feedback and analysis as long as it's not quickhammered - which as an aside I was slightly interested that Majiffy almost got to L-1), and then adds a lurker who I can't even remember a post from (dopog) as alternatives.

I mean, that's some pretty solid deflection.

I think I understand Nati's rationale on the jump but I'll leave that to him - and wait for Matias' feedback on an official induction given your slight hesitation (which is fine).

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I wouldn't be inclined to wagon Sakura - at this stage. She will need pressure at some point but might be easier to read through encouragement and watching changes of attitudes, votes, etc. I don't think we'll get anything useful from her if she's the major L-1 wagon.

I'm actually interested to know what kainwest thinks of the alternate townbloc / wagoning strategy right now. He's a pretty good player from what I've read and I think I'll recognise a faulty or false opinion, terse as the feedback may be.

kayne - that's a challenge.

k - Also do you think waynegg's trolling or showing signs of scum? Emp?

So manufactured. Are you a bot or just scum?

[NachoKoopa]

Oh so "poke him with a stick" is why I have a wagon on me.

Since when has this ever been a bad reason to wagon someone?

Besides, Levi actually looks kinda scummy.

Why?

Also why do you feel like you're playing ScumLurkCho rather than TownAsFuckCho?

Last time I was TownAsFuckCho I was actually scum.
Last time I was ScumLurkCho I was your scumpartner and actually not lurking at all.

Could you explain your reads on DV, pieguy and wayne?

Your quote on wayne looks like you didnt like his reasoning.

I haven't liked your posts so far :/

Why do i feel like Feirei is dragging you down, Nacho?

He's not. I'm sorting people out as we speak and I have a sizeable townblock so far. What do you think of Sakura?

[talah]

Sorry for drunk posting bit yeah I'm a bot why don't you justa man up and join the voting crew

Nacho:
And your sizeable town bloc seems like the promise of a large cock and I'm not seeing it, nacho.

Use the curly brackets {talah | pie guy | matias | nati I think}

can't self-nominate except for me.

Hey I have more confidence that majiffy's going to answer a question than you. Why are you avoiding commenting on me?

[mastin2]

VOTE: Koopa. Why do i feel like Feirei is dragging you down, Nacho?

Bad assumption. Nacho's done almost every post.

Nominate

Nati

for townbloc.

Duh.

[PeregrineV]

I disagree with some of your reads but don't feel like arguing now.

Unvote.

[Sakura Hana]

I haven't liked your posts so far :/

Well sorry but I can't make you like my posts every single game.

On other news i think kanye and Matias are town, so by PoE from the pool of 3.

Unvote
Vote: Empking

[Majiffy]

My wagon disintegrating into wagons on two of my scum reads is interesting.

Could you explain your reads on DV, pieguy and wayne?

Your quote on wayne looks like you didnt like his reasoning.

DV:
27 feels like sucking up/grooming/buddying/whatever you want to call it.
101 whole lotta words, whole lotta nothin'.
112 more words, more nothin'.

Pie:
104 exchanges with Nati feel scummy as fuck. Too much "This is what town would say!" and not enough "I'm town and this is what I'm saying!"
107 Also scummy.

Wayne:
38 is a town post.
89 right idea, wrong reasons.
94 resident VI.


P.S. disagreeing with reasoning doesn't mean you think they're scum.

Hell, I'm more town ... than you.

Laff.

You came in, made an offhand snide remark about how we should summon you when we were out of RVS when we clearly were

Actually it was an offhand comment about being past that stupid "oh lets analyze these meaningless early votes without flips!" stage.

For the record, you weren't past that stage when I made the post.

your posting should be practically shitting gold. You should make the most of the opportunities you are getting to post.

... I am?

Follow up has been better, but don't get indignant because

you

don't understand the wagon on you.

I understood the wagon just fine, I just thought it was utter shit.

To those that seem to think otherwise, the Majiffy wagon was never, at least for me, about lack of activity, but the really awkward reason given for not posting. If he's busy as town he'll say he's busy, not make up something about RVS, which is still what I suspect he's done.

I never once said I wasn't posting because of RVS. I merely noted 11 pages had gone on and asked if it was over.

To someone who's actually read my post, this should be obvious, so I think that Majiffy claiming that the wagon on him is about a lack of posts, when I think he would notice that there were actual reasons for it from at least Talah and myself, is scummy.

Your reason sucked.
I can't remember Talah's.

7/9 votes (if we consider yours and talahs as being reasoned) on a wagon about lack of posts makes the wagon about a lack of posts.
Pretty simple concept.

Oh, right. You're scum.

I don't like the continued justification for it in 275 either.

Please point out "continued justification" of whatever it is you're claiming I'm trying to continue to justify.

Oh so "poke him with a stick" is why I have a wagon on me.

Since when has this ever been a bad reason to wagon someone?

I never really said it was.

Besides, Levi actually looks kinda scummy.

Why?

Levi:
Shitty entrance with 9 and 10.
Really don't like the tone of 48.
58 "I'm town so that means I want to lynch scum so I'm going to talk about how I'm going to lynch scum ITT to look town!", also known as "look how obvtown I am!"
64 more "LHOIA!"
Possible emoticon tell. That would be something for a meta dive and I hate doing that shit.
Way too much fence-sitting on the reads he provides, and the rest of his content is essentially useless as far as a scumhunting perspective is concerned.
258 is bad in several ways.
Plus 264 which I called him out on and he responded poorly.

Also why do you feel like you're playing ScumLurkCho rather than TownAsFuckCho?

Last time I was TownAsFuckCho I was actually scum.
Last time I was ScumLurkCho I was your scumpartner and actually not lurking at all.

So you're saying that because you're actively trying to alter your meta it can no longer be used against you?

Also I like how you really aren't arguing against the scum read here.

[Majiffy]

Empking (3) - dopog, DrDo, Sakura
Sakura Hana (3) - Matias, kanyeknowsbest, Empking
NachoKoopa (3) - Natirasha, talah, pieguyn

Pretty much the only relevant wagons at the moment. Going to look at all three of those later.

[mastin2]

NachoKoopa (3) - Natirasha, talah, pieguyn

Add me here.

Only reason vote's not there is because Nacho's Nacho. <3

[NachoKoopa]

And your sizeable town bloc seems like the promise of a large cock and I'm not seeing it, nacho.

kanye seems town so far because he's questioning stuff, prodding good players. his townread on natirasha was good and his scumread on sakura is looking better than it should be.

dolittle seems town enough lately. he's been playing differently than I remember him playing, but it's a good kind of different because he's aggressive and taking strong stances.

i liked beli going "oh yeah this is multiball" and then "whoops no it's not" in his next post; seemed genuine and a weird as fuck gambit for scum to pull off.

wayne mostly seems town for his "town going after town" theory, which seemed a lot like him. there might be a couple weird twitches here and there but i'm not too worried yet.

mastin-town is mostly based on us having similar reads and his minimal posting leading to him becoming more involved in the game. i especially liked his reaction to my concern about him switching up style under pressure.

natirasha is sorting people out and doing his normal thing, pr claim, and his interactions with sakura are a+ awesome so don't gotta worry about him.

you're town because of dumb claim and townblock.

piegyun seems town for the push on me.

matias seems town for push on sakura, and i have a gut townread on empking.

no i'm not gonna use brackets

Why are you avoiding commenting on me?

I'm not. You're doing your own thing, I'm doing mine.

So you're saying that because you're actively trying to alter your meta it can no longer be used against you?

No, I said that because that's not how you specifically sort me.

[NachoKoopa]

Well sorry but I can't make you like my posts every single game.

No. But reading your alignment accurately helps me get to reading everyone else's a hell of a lot faster, meaning you should be interested in me sorting you out as town early. You said you were gonna do a reread when you got back; how did that go? I haven't really seen anything from it.

[Sakura Hana]

I haven't really seen anything from it.

What i got from it was that kanye and Matias are townreads for me.

[leviathan93]

@majiffy, like your entrance was any better. =P it took you 4 posts until you actually posted something worthwhile. =P

I don't like the tone of any of your posts but you don't see me posting you as scum. =P

pretty much your whole play this game has been bad. you've played WAY better games.

[Natirasha]

Hey Nacho how am I doing my normal thing this game? I'm deliberately playing like I imagine you would, not how I would(which typically involves a lot more lurking), and it seems weird to me for you to say that. I'm wary of Sakura right now...I'm still trying to figure out how she puzzles into this game.

Bad assumption. Nacho's done almost every post.

I know from firsthand experience that, even if only one partner is posting, the hydra can still be adversely affected by the presence/lack of one of the partners. It can indirectly hurt a slot's flow and generally fuck with tempo.

My unvote off Empking was just as much about the caliber of my groupies as well as Empking and Nacho himself. Still trying to parse the information though.

I still like where my vote is placed, although you can see this as a spiritual vote for Sakura as well.

[Sakura Hana]

although you can see this as a spiritual vote for Sakura as well.

Good, dont hold back on me just because of how I may react.

[Natirasha]

No, it's because I legitimately only have one vote and two slots I want to keep pressure on. If you want, I can give you the vote.

VOTE: Sakura hana

This is now a spiritual vote for NachoKoopa.

[waynegg]

You haven't flipped your magic coin once. What gives?

[Sakura Hana]

No, it's because I legitimately only have one vote and two slots I want to keep pressure on. If you want, I can give you the vote.

VOTE: Sakura hana

This is now a spiritual vote for NachoKoopa.

No, what i said is that i agreed to you not holding back on me, however this makes it better anyway.

[PeregrineV]

@majiffy, like your entrance was any better. =P it took you 4 posts until you actually posted something worthwhile. =P

I don't like the tone of any of your posts but you don't see me posting you as scum. =P

pretty much your whole play this game has been bad. you've played WAY better games.

Levi, do you have any links to your scum games please?

[Natirasha]

You haven't flipped your magic coin once. What gives?

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (2) = 2