Magic: The Gathering,GO TEAM MS!

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

The only problem is the guy sitting at 16 points who can go to 19 points with a win in the final round creating 7 or 8 people at 6-1-1 behind the two at 6-0-2; either way time to start brewing Theros legal standard pauper decks.

[Shanba]

We've been sent out the tiebreakers, and it turns out my OMW% is the second highest in the whole damn thing - plus I'm up against one of the two people at effectively 20, so we'll be IDing in.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

We've been sent out the tiebreakers, and it turns out my OMW% is the second highest in the whole damn thing - plus I'm up against one of the two people at effectively 20, so we'll be IDing in.

Interesting, not what my calculations were showing but then again mine was incomplete and I was just scratching things together from the publicly available information; I'd obviously trust the guy whose running it's calculations over mine.

Edit: If you can post the complete standings/pairings for the last round from the e-mail that'd be great for me since they aren't up on the site yet.

[Shanba]

Player Points Opponent Match Win % Game Win % Opponent Game Win %
1: Charlie S 20 67.33 81.25 65.24
2: Conor Moran 20 59.38 76.47 56.32
3: P. Dalton 19 64.79 66.67 62.42
4: Jason Gray 19 62.5 76.47 57.85
5: Hugh Kramer 19 61.63 70.59 61.22
6: Ben H 19 60.14 80 57.39
7: Justin Beckert 19 57.08 75 55.84
8: Andrzej "Onion" K 19 56.77 72.22 55.37
9: Andrew 17 57.47 68.75 58.96
10: aceracerff 17 57.29 68.75 56.03



P. Dalton (18 pts) vs Charlie S (19 pts)
Jason Gray (18 pts) vs Conor Moran (19 pts)
Hugh Kramer (18 pts) vs Justin Beckert (18 pts)
Andrzej "Onion" K (18 pts) vs Ben H (18 pts)
Andrew (16 pts) vs aceracerff (16 pts)

[Shanba]

blimey that formatting is nasty, sorry

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Yeah this is what I have before Rd 8...

1. Charlie S 19 points (67.62%)
2. Conor Moran 19 points (59.09%)
3. Jason Grey 18 points (62.58%)
4. Hugh Kramer 18 points (61.63%)
5. P. Dalton 18 points (59.93%)
6. Ben H 18 points (59.93%)
7. Justin Beckert 18 points (56.69%)
8. Andrzej 18 points (55.39%)
9. Andrew 16 points (58.28%)
10. aceracerff 16 points (58.12%)

Wonder what I'm screwing up for you because that looks like the big difference. Then again even if I were right ID probably would be the way to go.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

So these are the decent decks (lol Azorious Detention) I've seen playing Standard Pauper the last few days to think about building upon or that you might have to face...

Extort

(what I'm playing and am obviously partial to, Tragic Slip and Murder rolling out hurts since there's not as much cheap targeted removable available but I've still been having success with it)

Boros Aggro

(only faced it in a one game and kept a dumb hand and since have curved my deck lower again but it did what it said on the tin and won that game)

Bant Hexproof

(have only faced it for one game and my deck has been changed up since then but it did exactly what you'd think it'd do; perhaps I was too eager with my early celestial flares and didn't take out enough enchantments by waiting, the 1/1 lifelink enchantment creature that betows for four makes this deck hard to race as well)

Mono Black

(this deck gives my deck fits because it carries enough removal to make it so I can extort nearly as much as I want, I think I sport a 3-1 record against it but each win has been a 2-1 affair, I actually brought in Duress the last match from my sb and it did great work stealing a Read the Bones each time and without that reach the deck was relatively DoA.)

Mono-Green Stompy

(I've seen two different builds for this, one vastly better than the other, the bad one played guildgates just for the Saruuli Gatekeepers but they're totally not worth it, the good one was busy dropping Battering Krasis and evolving it with Advocate of the Beast and Ivy Lane Denizen and while I never saw a Rumbling Baloth they had to be there as well)

Izzet-Clops

(hurt massively by Delver and flashback rotating out which steals away the card advantage this deck needed to be top tier, it simply doesn't have enough threats against a good removal suite in my opinion)

[Shanba]

My pre-testing preliminary conclusions, based on some brewing last night a look at the pretty small card pool are something like this

- card draw is pretty lacking. Divination and read the bones are arguably the best (pilfered plans competes with read the bones which is surely just better). Sources of uncondintional raw card advantage being rare and mana expensive make it hard for the slower kill threats decks to keep up with the fast aggro.

- mono red was barely hurt by rotation and should still be one of, if not the best deck in the format. Brimstone volley becomes minotaur skullcleaver. I don't believe there is a compelling reason to play boros over mono red.

- white has access to pacifism, celestial flare and last breath, which are arguably three of the best removal spells in the format. It's to the point that arrest is likely not needed, and neither is banisher priest.

- green has a nice mix of cards that make it hard to die (centaur healer, saruli gatekeepers, deadly recluse) and efficient (in context) fatties like rumbling baloth. It also has one of two playable one drops in the format in elvish mystic. It also has a fair amount of decent early beaters. I like green in this format.

- blue is not very compelling (especially to me). It's all tempo cards and only a few decent dudes.

I've looked at g/w big stuff using common bond and the two heroic dudes in those colours, plus leafcrown dryad, hopeful eidolon and a couple fatties. Seemed to play ok, and it was doing some powerful stuff. Wasn't as good against the red deck as I was hoping - it tripped over its own mana too much.

The red deck seems truly fearsome. Like, really good. Any deck going in needs at least a plan against it. For that reason, I want to be playing white - either white black or white green, I think.

[xRECKONERx]

Put this Bant Flash list together today, and I'm LOVING it so far:

4 Sylvan Caryatid
3 Centaur Healer
3 Boon Satyr
2 Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
2 Prophet of Kruphix
2 Armada Wurm
2 Prime Speaker Zegana
2 Selesnya Charm
2 Call of the Conclave
2 Detention Sphere
4 Advent of the Wurm
1 Mystic Genesis
3 Sphinx's Revelation
1 Stolen Identity
3 Forest
4 Plains
4 Island
4 Hallowed Fountain
4 Breeding Pool
4 Temple Garden
1 Selesnya Guildgate
1 Temple of Mystery
2 Syncopate
SB: 3 Rapid Hybridization
SB: 2 Mystic Genesis
SB: 3 Supreme Verdict
SB: 2 Sundering Growth
SB: 2 Aerial Predation
SB: 1 Stolen Identity
SB: 1 Centaur Healer
SB: 1 Angelic Skirmisher


Prophet is an absolute beating. I'm unsure about the one-of Stolen Identity, it hasn't done a whole lot for me so far. But seriously, flashing in Armada Wurm with Trostani on the field is amazing... being able to populate your tokens every turn then untap every turn is amazing... flashing in Zegana is amazing. And, usually, with this ramp, I'm able to Mystic Genesis their 5cmc (I've hit Stormbreath Dragon, Kalonian Hydra, and Aurelia with my playtests so far) which is huge on its own. The only deck I had problems with was the super fast white weenie/boros aggro deck, simply because Soldier of the Pantheon protection from multicolored/giving them life every time I cast multicolored is pretty damn good. I'd also imagine I might have issues with Burning Earth, but I think I can get around it with 11 basics + 4 Caryatids.

[InflatablePie]

>Mystic Genesis

ok Frank


I'm also assuming you're only using cards you own because there's no Voices (even in the SB).

don't remember what Predation does but I bet Plummet is better

needs glare of heresy in the board

that's about all I have time to add.

[xRECKONERx]

I considered running Plasm Capture but this deck isn't really trying to ramp any more than it already is, especially since it's flash. I suppose I could just cut genesis for straight up counterspells.

It's partly because I don't have the Voices, and it's partly because I don't really think Voice fits in this deck? The only thing I want to be playing on turn two is a Caryatid to ramp into bigger threats, there's really no room or time to play Voice.

Predation is 2G to destroy target creature with flying and gain two life, so one more mana for two life? Seems okay (might cut that altogether, not like fliers are super prevalent except for Desecration Demon)

[InflatablePie]

eh. still think plummet works. and flashing in voice is funny

Azorious Charm pretty good if you can find room.

Saw a Bant Flash list running Horizon Chimera. It's somewhere on channelfireball's article section, compare and contrast for card ideas

[Fate]

i told you aerial predation is trash

[Shanba]

Spoiler: DECK THAT COMBINES DERPINESS WITH BEING EXPENSIVE

2 Whip of Erebos
3 Corpsejack Menace
4 Elvish mystic
2 Kalonian Hydra
4 Prime Speaker Zegana
4 Sylvan Caryatid
2 polukranos
4 Devour Flesh
2 Abrupt Decay
2 Far//Away
3 Hero's Downfall
4 Read the bones
4 Breeding Pool
4 Overgrown Tomb
4 Watery Grave
4 Temple of Mystery
4 Temple of Deceit
4 Forest

SIDEBOARD:1 abrubt decay 2 doom blade 2 far//away 2 ashiok 2 opportunity 2 putrefy

Obviously a lot of the numbers are wrong or w/e, but zegana draw infinite cards is kinda awesome. And then you whip it back for round 2!

[chamber]

I really like that nearly mono green japanese devotion deck.

[InflatablePie]

so I bought a set of Jace AoT at $8. he's at ~$24 tcg-low. Thassa I impulse-bought 3 at $10 last week, she's at about the same. traded one for a mutavault because she was 16 friday morning. if I sold them on tcgplayer for $20/ea I double my money. buylisting I can still at least get my money back plus a few bucks.

sometimes I actually invest well, other times I'm stuck with 30+ Ratchet Bombs. oh well.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Took 3rd/4th in a 64 person release draft last night on MTGO; went 3-0 in the first part running GreyMerchants.dec and then while MTGO decided to crash during the end of the first round of my second draft I still managed to get back for Pack 2, Pick 3 and salvage an alright Uwb deck that was based around bestowing dudes on Artisan of Forms and/or Agent of Fates that let me win the first match with a 10/9 deathtouching, trampling Artisan of Forms in game 3, then my second match went to game three where I kept a five lander, with a two drop (1/2 Flyer) and three drop (1/4 - extort for 3), ran my opponent down to 3 life on just those two creatures and if I had drawn one more threat in the first seven turns I would've won; instead, of my first seven draws, six of them were lands and eventually he threw the lifelink bestower on a 3/3 and got himself out of the danger zone and I kept mostly drawing lands.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

And went 4-0 in another 64 person release draft only to have the entire tournament freeze; they've said they'll automatically redeem entry fees but I'm going to be pissed if that's all I get sent after grinding and working for five hours to place in at very least the Top 4 again.

[bv310]

So I and an anonymous partner (it's Shanba) are looking for a 3rd to play in a Team Pauper tournament. I can supply from a bunch of decks for said person to use, but if you have your own that's fine too. PM me or hit me up on scumchat if you're interested.

Decks I can supply:

Affinity
GW Slivers
BW Extort/Edge of the Divinity
NivixCombo
(theoretically) RW Wellspring

[Shanba]

I can also loan a few decks:

Stompy,
an old build of Delver (it would be substantially different if I built it today),
A really old pretty bad build of g/w auras,
NivixClops (in case you like me more than bv )
Jace's erasure turbofog (sideboard needs rebuilding though - also not a top tier deck)
r/b or g/b tortex (not tier 1, but I've tuned them pretty hard),
Presence of Gond combo (:D)

[xRECKONERx]

I'll play!

[bv310]

I'll play!

Beautiful! What deck would you like to try out? I need to sign us up now, but we can change decks between now and the 21st.

We also need a team name

[bv310]

Also also, we could use an alternate. You likely won't need to play, but if needed, you could play any of the decks.

[xRECKONERx]

Hmm. I'd like to play a fun deck... don't know much about pauper, though. I want a deck that is very synergistic, IE, isn't just "playing best value things in the best slots and then winning".

[bv310]

What do you play in Standard right now? (Also, get on scumchat. Me and the frog are scheming)