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Post Post #575 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:30 pm

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In post 574, xRECKONERx wrote:Didn't the collusion/ARAM happen at MLG Raleigh last year?

I overslept that day and didn't go :(
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Post Post #576 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:18 pm

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I *hope* they bring MLG back next year.
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Post Post #577 (ISO) » Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:03 pm

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Me too. It happened while I was in town last year, which was Double Bonus Cool.
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Post Post #578 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:50 pm

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BJERGSEN REPLACING REGI ON TSM?!?!?!

But seriously, this is awesome. I can actually support TSM now (second after C9 ofc). And they actually might have a shot in NA.
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Post Post #579 (ISO) » Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:52 pm

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pffft. That feels a lot like trying to buy a good team.
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Post Post #580 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:40 am

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That would be so different from "real" professional sports?
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Post Post #581 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:49 am

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nope, but it's the same reason people dislike Manchester City.
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Post Post #582 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:06 am

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I've never disliked TSM for that reason, I've disliked TSM because they (read: mostly Regi) were assholes.

Minus Regi-as-player, that goes away somewhat. I still proably won't root for them in NA LCS, but I am more likely to root for them as NA reps in international competitions.
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Post Post #583 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:29 am

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In post 581, mykonian wrote:nope, but it's the same reason people dislike Manchester City.
I guess. But literally every team buys and sells players. TSM engaging in that seems to be progress, not regression. Don't try and push esports as a professional venture and then cry about the loss of amateurism.
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Post Post #584 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:04 pm

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In post 583, zoraster wrote:
In post 581, mykonian wrote:nope, but it's the same reason people dislike Manchester City.
I guess. But literally every team buys and sells players. TSM engaging in that seems to be progress, not regression. Don't try and push esports as a professional venture and then cry about the loss of amateurism.
im kind of curious as to how you feel this makes esports less legitimate as a professional venture when one of if not the single greatest rivalries in american sports (red sox/yankees) is based
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on the boston perception of the yankees trying to buy a better team (also known as the exact same argument here) going back to when harry frazee sold babe ruth to the yankees to finance a
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the fact that fans can hold the opinion of "pah, they're just trying to buy a better team" and whatnot shows loyalties to teams/players, which is absolutely crucial in the establishment of esports as a "professional venture" as you put it
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Post Post #585 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:01 pm

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In post 579, mykonian wrote:pffft. That feels a lot like trying to buy a good team.
Get back to when Bjergsen is making Man City money

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Post Post #586 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:02 pm

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I think it's pretty easy to draw a distinction between a team that spends 80 million more than its nearest rivals (though down to just 10 million over the dodgers now!) and a team replacing someone because they're better. That happens in lots of sports, including junior high soccer.

"also known as the exact same argument" sounds nice, but is full of pointless bluster.

that said, I admit I sometimes find myself feeling this way:

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Post Post #587 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:42 pm

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You guys advising zora to play LoL was terrible. Look at all his sunk time now.
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Post Post #588 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:11 am

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What makes you think that getting into petty arguments wasn't my original purpose?
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Post Post #589 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:02 am

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Petty arguments? On a Mafia site? Pfft.
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Post Post #590 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 7:01 am

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so who thinks coast is obv-8th place in NA this split

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Post Post #591 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:14 pm

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Thats pretty obvious unless they get their shit together.

I am actually pretty excited for this split.
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Post Post #592 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:14 pm

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Thats pretty obvious unless they get their shit together.

I am actually pretty excited for this split.
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Post Post #593 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:19 pm

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I am too, should hopefully have some more parity.

I'm interested to see how EG will do, and I'm also curious as to how long XDG goes before dropping Zuna. >_< (As a note, I think that would likely make them a much better team, depending on who they pick up.)
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Post Post #594 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:59 pm

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no way coast gets 8th this split.

miles will literally not allow it and now they actually have an adc thats worth a poop.
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Post Post #595 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 2:47 pm

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RxLee is Vulcun's (yes, I'm still calling it that) sub at ADC. And Lee said he's probably take the spot if offered to him.

That said, I don't think Zuna is on as short a leash as everyone seems to want/think. People are really down on them in general, but if be surprised if they're looking at relegation after this split.

I think the bottom three will be Curse, CLG, and Coast in some order or another.
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Post Post #596 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:51 pm

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Who do you think does get 8th here, PEG?
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Post Post #597 (ISO) » Tue Dec 24, 2013 8:31 pm

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xdg, or curse.
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Post Post #598 (ISO) » Wed Dec 25, 2013 8:13 am

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Ok, I can see XDG coming in 8th, that's fair. Curse I'll go with "I hope not" and leave it at that?
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Post Post #599 (ISO) » Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:11 pm

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In post 590, quadz08 wrote:so who thinks coast is obv-8th place in NA this split

*raises hand*
I'll be controversial.

The worst teams in NA right now, at this very moment, are Dignitas and EG.

There, said it. EG sucks balls. No matter how bad they are though, Dignitas is worse.

This split is gonna be the breaking point for Dig, because they are truly far worse than their record has ever suggested, and they aren't gonna be able to cut it.

But seriously, EG is really bad.
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