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[notscience]

Discredits ahoy!

Seriously, anyone who hasn't realized he's scum should probably check to make sure they're wearing their pants over their underpants.

[Drake Crusader]

I'll respond when you stop being vague and unclear.

Thanks.

I feel that your being rather unclear. You go from giving up -> wanted to be lynched -> wanting to scumhunt -> back to being a shady guy again.
Well NS kinda just charted the stars on Montosh. I have to agree with a few of them. However, his opinion support that Montosh is scum. I still feel my vote is good.

Now on the JacobSavage
One thing I noticed was Jacob's lack of insight. He has only placed one vote in the beginning and has never touched upon it again. Neither has he actually thrown much out in the works except for his post about Montosh being scummy and SecondEngineer being nervous. I doubt he is scum however, he doesnt really seem into looking for them. Other than posting the odd remark now and then.

This would be my list at the moment:
Town (< 85% sure) -
TRG
Tigris
Nominull

Null Town ( 50 % - 84 %) -
SecondEngineer
Spaces

Null Scum (25% - 49%) -
JacobSavage
NotScience

Scum (0%-25%)
Montosh


Still need some help with AtE is anyone is kind enough to shed some light.

[JacobSavage]

Ate is appeal to emotion, it is often used by scum as well it can often stop you getting a clear read on someone, or as town who just doesn't want to be lynched.

Personal in this case it seems more townie than otherwise just because of well the wording really.

It more focuses on his personal opinions rather than just a general cloudyness.

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 1.5

Montosh (3):

notscience, Nominull, Drake Crusader

notscience (2):

Montosh, Spaces

TRG (1):

JacobSavage

JacobSavage (1):

TRG

No Vote (2):

SecondEngineer, Tigris

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

Deadline is Wednesday, October 30, at 3:30 PM CDT, which is in (expired on 2013-10-30 15:30:00).

[Drake Crusader]

So. Jacob ! Why are you voting TRG?
TRG ! Why are you voting Jacob?

I can't seem to draw anything real between your votes. I was curious to know if you got somthing I missed!

[JacobSavage]

Becuse we're scum together and we're trying to screw with VCA later in teh game but ssh don't tell anyone its a big secret.

[Montosh]

Becuse we're scum together and we're trying to screw with VCA later in teh game but ssh don't tell anyone its a big secret.

I don't think drake is accusing you, I think he's just asking you why you voted the way you did.

[notscience]

Why are you always jumping to Drake's aid?

[Montosh]

Why are you always jumping to Drake's aid?

I'm not. I'm pointing out that drake asked for justification of a vote.

Perhaps you should stop jumping to conclusions?

[Tigris]

I don't work or have company this weekend, so will have more time to focus on this game. That said, more than slightly tired, so my post might not make the most sense.

Basically, notscience-montosh doesn't have the feel of mafia-mafia to me. So, have to decide if it's mafia-town or town-town.

There are parts of not science's analysis I like, other parts feel like misdirection and/or exaggeration. It should produce at least a bit more discussion. It definitely does have the overall feel of more experienced and newer, not science is far less self-conscious and more fluid than montosh.

At the same time, what still feels awkward is almost the entire flow of the game right now is connected to not science and montosh. If that doesn't change, then I see little recourse but for one of them to be the lynch, which would be fine in my book, but does seem to limit today's information flow.

Spaces and TRG have both brought up ideas/suspicions of each other, based on associations with others though which inherently weakens their cases.

Jacob hasn't moved his vote since the initial RVS. I haven't re-voted since I'm to the point on this day where there is no need to pressure anyone with a vote, so the only reason I could have to vote is to pursue a lynch, after which point I doubt that I would move it.

Should have more to say tomorrow, tonight might just be babbling.

[Nominull]

Becuse we're scum together and we're trying to screw with VCA later in teh game but ssh don't tell anyone its a big secret.

This is really defensive over a very reasonable request, that you explain your vote. VOTE: JacobSavage

[Nominull]

always lynch the IC day 1, never fails

or is that never succeeds, I forget which

[notscience]

Becuse we're scum together and we're trying to screw with VCA later in teh game but ssh don't tell anyone its a big secret.

This is really defensive over a very reasonable request, that you explain your vote. VOTE: JacobSavage

And you're takig pressure off the obvscum why?

[Nominull]

lol you'll forgive me if I don't trust your judgment as to "obvscum"

[notscience]

lol you'll forgive me if I don't trust your judgment as to "obvscum"

Am I wrong about his buddy? You're looking awful good for it right about now.

[Nominull]

Associational tells on unflipped players are crap, this isn't arguable. You should have learned your lesson about this!

[JacobSavage]

I was simply saying in slightly fanicer words that there was no reason because there is no reason.

[Spaces]

I was simply saying in slightly fanicer words that there was no reason because there is no reason.

Saying it in fancy words would be like if you were speaking Shakespearean. Your words were more defensive and sarcastic than fancy.

[JacobSavage]

replace fancy with sarcastic then.

[Nominull]

So, JacobSavage, if your vote is meaningless, why not place a vote that means something? Scared?

[Tigris]

Question for jacob and nominull.

If today's lynch does not end with either notscience or montosh being lynched, is it in notscience's style to continue this on tomorrow?

Main reason curious is because with activity picking up slightly, reconsidering thoughts I had about voting in the previous post and re-examining older suspicions. Disabled avatars so that can just re-read without bias about the poster and only examine the post (shiny things like avatars can distract me >->

At the same time, if tomorrow would be a repeat of the second half of today, not certain that is desirable (based on the assumption that if lynch someone else, mafia will not night kill one of those two).

[Nominull]

I think it's against the rules for me to frankly discuss my perception of NotScience's playstyle.

[notscience]

I think it's against the rules for me to frankly discuss my perception of NotScience's playstyle.

IMMINENT BASHING

And yes, I will continue this tomorrow if the lynchee flips town

[JacobSavage]

I clearely have not being paying enough attention, but what do you mean "carry on like this tommorrow?"

As far as I see it it just looks like ns and montash

I honestly don't remeber. The last game was Post Restiction and so probably wouldn't have gotten a good idea from that really.

[Tigris]

Okay, charting out my thoughts a bit right now. Won't be a wall, but will be more disorganized.

2 mafia, 7 town, of the 7, one is investigative type (jail keeper, cop, or tracker). Noting the investigative type for potential information tomorrow, unless they are killed tonight or not beneficial to reveal information. Each has their own weaknesses and strengths as well.

Completely random lynch, 2 of 8, so 25% chance mafia, 75% town.

Fairly sure that montosh/notscience isn't mafia-mafia, so lowest chance for rest 1/6, 17% with chance of 2/6 34% if both town

Fairly sure two of the 6 are not mafia (or at least 1 isn't and two others will easily reveal if they are later on, so they count as halves to me), so 1/4 25% and 2/4 and 50% respectively dependent upon montosh/notscience alignment. Which brings back up to completely random lynch numbers or better. Biggest down side to this pursuit would be if not correct, tomorrow will have the resurgence of not science/montosh.

Right now, more inclined to think that montosh is mafia than notscience.

Quick question for notscience-thoughts on spaces? Curious since spaces voted for you and partly defended those you are suspicious of; however, there was limited/no response, which contrasts sharply with responses to nominull (joking?) and drake.

P Edit: basically if notscience would continue to focus on montosh, which he confirmed. Main reason curious is that it provides a better atmosphere for mafia to hide in.