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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:37 am

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Vote Count 4.2


8 alive, 5 to lynch

Hiraki (3): JacobSavage, Sakura Hana, DoctorEagle
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DoctorEagle (1): InflatablePie

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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:53 am

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In post 679, InflatablePie wrote:there's also probably a scum in [Aldusk/Hiraki/DE] given that all of those votes had... not much or any reasons really, just piled on after the tracker claim.

this supports Sakura's logic, even if that's on the basis of her assuming Ank is scum first. not sure if that means I'm on the right track or terribly off-base again.
I thought Brian's claim was bad, but it did clear you however. And maybe Ank if there's a kill tonight.
In post 705, Alduskkel wrote:How about we just lynch NS?

Vote: notscience
Hm? Why? I'm getting town vibes from him.
In post 714, Alduskkel wrote:I think this is "scum NS who has given up and is just fucking around."
Given up after one vote? I think it's one vote.
In post 741, InflatablePie wrote:Yeah, we keep Ank alive at least for one day. If there's another no kill, we maybe lynch him tomorrow. If there is a kill, we have at least two confirmed town.

Currently I'm thinking Ank scum and Jacob traitor, but I'd like to go after the most likely scum besides them.
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In post 665, Hiraki wrote:Oh right, just going to ignore yesterday, eh?

Vote: InflatablePie
VOTE: Hiraki

Sure, lets go kill the conf town roleblocker. Logic.

If we aren't lynching Ank for the horrendous "scum did a no kill gambit" statement today, then we must do it tomorrow.

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In post 744, Alduskkel wrote:I don't like how/that JS and DE are on the Hiraki wagon.
Why?

Hiraki is scum and I think it's either Ank/Ald. Depends on what happens tonight.

If Hiraki flips town, which I doubt this will happen, then I think it's JS and Ank/Ald. Obviously, scum could have pulled the "well there was a strongman" gambit.
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:31 am

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And when I admitted that I made a mistake, did that have an effect on your vote or did you casually ignore it the second time?
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:40 am

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I'm not sold on DE or Hiraki scum.
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:33 pm

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@DE: Why? Well, JS's vote is OBVIOUSLY terrible. Yours is also terrible because your reason is shit. (And it's on you to prove that it isn't shit.)

Also, I want to hear why you think Hiraki-scum bussed ETL like that.

I don't want to say I'm townreading Hiraki but man are the players going after him scummy (except Sakura).
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:01 pm

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Ald why is my vote "OBVIOUSLY terrible?".
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:19 pm

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Wait, were you saying you didn't want to commit to any wagons, or were you mock-quoting Hiraki? I read it as the former.
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:22 pm

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It was the former.

Thats why my vote was terrible.

Opps. Although having done a little reading I like my vote anyway.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:11 am

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Prodding InflatablePie.
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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:15 am

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In post 748, Alduskkel wrote:Why should I be? Also thanks. :)
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 5:07 am

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Prod response.

I need to look at votecounts when I get home. I think I might be wrong on Eagle but I need to double check something.
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Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:26 pm

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hmm. Eagle and ETL were voting Sakura a lot together, and staying fairly close to each other on the wagon. I'd think scum would want to distance themselves more from their buddy.

So Eagle and Hiraki probably aren't scum due to interactions with ETL, neither is Sakura (one of ETL's pushes, also the selfvote thing), neither am I. Leaving Ank/Jacob/Aldusk/notsci. I'd think scum-notsci would have backtracked more after I pwned him in our little spat regarding my claim, not just basically said "...goddammit.". And I kinda think Aldusk is town, but that's mostly gut.

It's kind of hard to decide who to lynch when I have townreads on everyone except the two people who, strategically, it's a bad idea to lynch. Hrm.
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Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:28 pm

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I'm going to guess one of those is me.

Who is the other one?
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Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:39 pm

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8 alive, let's say we lynch... Aldusk or someone, go to 7. Scum miss a kill again tonight. This means they either want to frame Ank, or Ank is scum. This is LYLO as well, since if we ML and I block wrong, it's game over. They won't even kill Ank tonight since that confirms him as town, it'd be easier to no-kill and have only one confirmed town in probably-LYLO. So this plan only works if Ank is scum, if he's town it's kinda useless.

... I kind of think lynching Ank is the right move now actually.

... Also, I'd like to bring up, again, that since scum probably lack a rolecop/BP/did not recruit traitor (evidenced by no-kill + ETL slipping by saying "scum 'partner' "), Jacob is only town if scum decided to pick daytalk. Which with two people seems like a not great upgrade. And the correct play after ETL was lynched would be to take out the 'confirmed' Bodyguard, which apparently scum hit traitor...

k, I'm really really leaning towards this crazy scumteam idea.

vote Ankamius


fuck it, if he's town we can just figure this out tomorrow.

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Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:40 pm

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dead thread, if one exists, is probably yelling at me for either being completely off-base, or for going back and forth between correct and incorrect plays and playing with their emotions.
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Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:42 pm

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I think your DE and NS townreads suck.
Also the scumteam is well aware that JS is a huge mislynch target (if he's town obv) if we ever get over the fact that he's claimed bodyguard.
I fail to see how 7p is lylo.
Fair point about ETL's slip. Not sure they don't have a role cop, though, that seems like a great one to take.
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Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:43 pm

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Don't worry IP, I can yell at you now. You don't need the dead thread.
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Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:49 pm

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I mean seriously, DE isn't scum because he's TOO closely associated with ETL? That's basically "too scummy to be scum" right there. And NS isn't stupid, he's not going to blow up just because he made a mistake.
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Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:58 pm

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In post 767, Alduskkel wrote:I mean seriously, DE isn't scum because he's TOO closely associated with ETL? That's basically "too scummy to be scum" right there. And NS isn't stupid, he's not going to blow up just because he made a mistake.
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Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:38 pm

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I'm an idiot and did my math wrong.

If they took rolecop they would have left Venrob's slot alive since he was thought to be scummy but they insta-killed him instead.
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Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:50 pm

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NS's self-meta tires me.

IP, they might have also recruited the Traitor, which would have given them grounds to immediately kill Bert.
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Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:28 pm

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In post 752, Hiraki wrote:And when I admitted that I made a mistake, did that have an effect on your vote or did you casually ignore it the second time?
In post 754, Alduskkel wrote:@DE: Why? Well, JS's vote is OBVIOUSLY terrible. Yours is also terrible because your reason is shit. (And it's on you to prove that it isn't shit.)

Also, I want to hear why you think Hiraki-scum bussed ETL like that.

I don't want to say I'm townreading Hiraki but man are the players going after him scummy (except Sakura).
Hiraki has been going with the flow this whole game, and there's really no push from his votes. He's just coasting.


In post 763, InflatablePie wrote:I mean, we
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lynch Ank, I just think that in case I'm wrong again we take a lot less damage from lynching through other people.

8 alive, let's say we lynch... Aldusk or someone, go to 7. Scum miss a kill again tonight. This means they either want to frame Ank, or Ank is scum. This is LYLO as well, since if we ML and I block wrong, it's game over. They won't even kill Ank tonight since that confirms him as town, it'd be easier to no-kill and have only one confirmed town in probably-LYLO. So this plan only works if Ank is scum, if he's town it's kinda useless.

... I kind of think lynching Ank is the right move now actually.

... Also, I'd like to bring up, again, that since scum probably lack a rolecop/BP/did not recruit traitor (evidenced by no-kill + ETL slipping by saying "scum 'partner' "), Jacob is only town if scum decided to pick daytalk. Which with two people seems like a not great upgrade. And the correct play after ETL was lynched would be to take out the 'confirmed' Bodyguard, which apparently scum hit traitor...

k, I'm really really leaning towards this crazy scumteam idea.

vote Ankamius


fuck it, if he's town we can just figure this out tomorrow.

[pedit] see vote.
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Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:29 pm

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In post 752, Hiraki wrote:And when I admitted that I made a mistake, did that have an effect on your vote or did you casually ignore it the second time?
Whoops forgot to respond to this comment in my last post.

What mistake? It appears you are gonna need to quote it for me.
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Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:43 pm

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In post 770, Alduskkel wrote:IP, they might have also recruited the Traitor, which would have given them grounds to immediately kill Bert.
So they randomly no-killed N2 after ETL was lynched?

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Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun Oct 27, 2013 4:53 pm

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Well if they picked something more than just JOAT then they KNEW there was roleblocker, right?
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