NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[MC Maraca]

Also that town list isn't tiered.

[MC Maraca]

Cephrir double posting like a boss.

[sangres]

I already explained part of it.

As for the rest, wouldn't you like to know?

Your 698?

Also that town list isn't tiered.

Town and Null-Town are tiers.

[MC Maraca]

Basically, i'd rather let Cabd sort this kind of thing out considering he has more experience in being with ffery on hydra as scum.

If ffery has suddenly chosen to cast off every single fucking lesson I've taught her about being scum over our multiple morph scumgames AND our nightly google talk chats, then sure, she can be scum. Not to mention I specifically mentioned her hiding behidn the other head as a scumtell in the thread earlier. You think ffery scum sees that and goes "Well i'll be damned, better do exactly what cabd just said is a scumtell for me" ?

This was the start of the read getting serious, yes.

[sangres]

Town and Null-Town are tiers.

Misread your reads list. Retracting this.

[sangres]

Basically, i'd rather let Cabd sort this kind of thing out considering he has more experience in being with ffery on hydra as scum.

If ffery has suddenly chosen to cast off every single fucking lesson I've taught her about being scum over our multiple morph scumgames AND our nightly google talk chats, then sure, she can be scum. Not to mention I specifically mentioned her hiding behidn the other head as a scumtell in the thread earlier. You think ffery scum sees that and goes "Well i'll be damned, better do exactly what cabd just said is a scumtell for me" ?

This was the start of the read getting serious, yes.

Then you grossly underestimate my capacity for backsliding.

[sangres]

It's still pretty meh compared to the body of evidence in some of your prior town reads. I guess the counter-argument is Paradox Prime, which still confuses me. I have no idea what led to you townreading me fairly early. Or what led to mara scumreading me.

[likeabauss]

Cabd, I did explain my Rank read pretty thoroughly (831). You didn't ask for details, you just straight discredited me immediately after. You then did something self-contradictory when I started to press you. Let me explain this:

You suggested that you knew of me and Rank, having read/stalked some of our games. (Though you and I have never played together.)

In closing a post, I said:
"I can't see another scenario. Especially from you"

Then this:

WRT the bolded I thought you'd never played with the cabd-head. Now all of a sudden you can tell me what you'd expect from it?

You're:
A) implying that I'm not qualified to have expectations of your play because I haven't played a game with you
B) in an argument where you're discrediting my read of somebody I've played a ton of games with
C) after positioning yourself as knowledgeable about Me and Rank because you've READ a few of our games

Do you see why I'm having a really hard time with your position on my Rank slot read? You didn't even ask a question. You went to straight up discredit. The logic of my read on Rank in 831 is not only sound, its spot on. If he were here, I suspect he'd echo the sentiment almost exactly, and I think you know that. And then when I pressed you for a conversation on it, your whole reaction and position became self contradictory.

Your words and behaviors directly contradicted themselves.

[sangres]

Bauss, get on the orcinus wagon with me. We're splitting the two wagons for little reason, but I don't want to come over to the AFB wagon right now because I'm still townreading them. You

know

this slot is scum, so work with me a bit and lynch orcinus first.

[goodmorning]

we're going to get to 50 votecounts today, aren't we?

Votecount 1.39

Angry Frat BROs [L-4] - likeabauss, Toomai, Guyett, Hermy, RadiantCowbells

orcinus_theoriginal [L-6] - Sakura Hana, sangres, TheIrishPope

JacobSavage [L-6] - MC Maraca, Cephrir, yessiree

Guyett [L-8] - PeregrineV

Sakura Hana [L-8] - orcinus_theoriginal

likeabauss [L-8] - Angry Frat BROs

Not Voting [3] - JacobSavage, caledfwitch, MVP

With 17 alive, it takes

9

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-11-20 09:39:00)

[likeabauss]

I'm only 4 votes away from lynching him. If you and TIP come along, a couple others will too and he'll dangle. I get your read on the slot, but its on meta and you and I both know he's a good enough player to manipulate that. His tantrums didn't seem that real to me, (RC mentioned this too.)

There's no glory in stringing up Orcinus on D1 for me. I didn't pyschobabble anything, or flame him into exposing himself, or logically rip him apart to peg him as scum. Its cheap and hollow for me. I'll derive no pleasure from it.

If I didn't have another strong scum read, then yes of course. But I started down this path and I'd like to see it through. If I can't pull it off, then 100% I'll ride that Orcinus train with you.

[sangres]

Town:

17. TheIrishPope

(Meta from both of us. You can take this read to the bank and cash it)

At last synch we both agree with this, but it's mostly a Nacho read.

4. sangres

(Read is solidifying into steady town, subject to change but like it here right now.)

Still troubled by how easy this read seems to be, especially after Newbie 1430.

8. Guyett

(See TIP read, formerly null)

This is meta-based?

2. Cephrir

(His paranoia about me while justified, is wrong this time around. Still town.)

Nacho and I are in strong agreement that he's town.

11. Angry Frat BROs

(That posting by BRO was town as fuck, formerly null)

Directionally, I think Nacho agrees. I'm going to have to reread later because my circuits fried the first couple of times through.

16. yessiree

(His response to our vote was town as fuck IMO, same with the ATE things; formerly null)

Does this mean you're never going to explain that meta case for scum-yessiree?

Bauss

(Wrong does not a scum make.)

aphorisms do not reads make. Strongly agree he's town.

Null:

15. Toomai

(This has slid down from town for the terrible posting recently)

Examples?

Orcinus

(I'll have ffery sort this one, mostly, if I satisfy myself of fferytown. He's fooled me once (xenoblade) and I've fooled him once (NY165) but I don't know for sure yet which is which. His utter righteousness did ring kinda legit.)

He has a dance invitation waiting for when he's back.

6. MVP

(Now that I know your other two heads (i think) I'm not able to give you the same blank town-check as I would have thinking it was notsci and players like him. Interesting group, though, I must say, if my guess is right.)

I don't understand this read. I have MVP as cautiously town. Not going to potentially out Lebron, but I'm pretty sure I know this player and if it's who I think it is, I'm seeing town-play.

7. caledfwitch

(A meta check shows this lurkfuckery is not alignment indicative. Formerly scum.)

She's lurking a lot harder than I recall from the newbie game we played. Her stances don't feel as strong either.

14. RadiantCowbells

(ceph has questions. Answer the evil looking man with the claws. What did your reaction test ACTUALLY do for you?)

Basis for null is that he's not answering Ceph?

Scum:

3. Sakura Hana

(Her lack of engagement except to pop in and get a free post or two is not something I expect from sakura as town, formerly null.)

This read surprises me a little. I need to discuss her with Nacho, I guess.

5. JacobSavage

(he's posting elsewhere and lurking the fuck out of this game. Just like 165. His ISO is shit.)

My read is more based on what's NOT present here compared to the harry potter game, where he also hardcore lurked and was town. Nacho has more experiential meta, but he's mentioned that game as a concern as well.

12. Hermy

(So where's that fucking "serious content" you promised pages ago?)

I'd probably flip Hermy and caled in this list though the lack of followthrough will become troubling in a day or two. Weekend and stuff.

Holy fuck, this player is in this game?!? Since when?!?:

13. PeregrineV

(Still nothing holy shit come on and play, pere)

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[Angry Frat BROs]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT BAUSS AND RC. ARE YOU REALLY THAT INTENT ON GETTING A FUCKING MISLYNCH.

NO, MY RAGE ISN'T FAKE. I'M GOING TO FUCKING VERBALLY EVISCERATE YOU EVERY TIME YOU SAY SOMETHING STUPID, BECAUSE YOU'RE BEING A FUCKING MORON.\

YOU'VE MISREPPED EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN POST I'VE MADE IN THIS GAME.

YOU'VE REFUSED TO ENGAGE ME LIKE A REASONABLE PERSON.

YOU'VE DONE NOTHING BUT SAY SHIT THAT'S FALSE.

THIS IS MY RESPONSE TO EVERYTHING YOU'VE POSTED IN THIS FUCKING GAME:





























HOW THE FUCK IS ANYONE READING THIS SHIT AS TOWN. HE HAS DEMONSTRATED 0 INTEREST IN WORKING OUT ANYTHING.

[sangres]

Still troubled by how easy this read seems to be, especially after Newbie 1430.

And Chef Mafia!

[sangres]

There's no glory in stringing up Orcinus on D1 for me. I didn't pyschobabble anything, or flame him into exposing himself, or logically rip him apart to peg him as scum. Its cheap and hollow for me. I'll derive no pleasure from it.

Fair enough.

[RadiantCowbells]

http://www.areumadbro.ca/~lolsomad.http

[yessiree]

Frat Bros get mad when called dicks

but it's okay for them to call others retards and assholes

#logic

This has nothing at all to do with the game and only serves to piss people off.

The name's Rustle, Jimmy Rustle.

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

[Sakura Hana]

@Cabd: My inactivity is called being on a weekend and having monday off work so preferring to play other games than come here and post.

[yessiree]

AFB, why do you respond to sangres differently than how you respond to bauss and RC

sangres agrees with bauss, but you dont throw a tantrum at him, instead you take a clearly more passive stance

why is that?

[sangres]

We agree with bauss?

[Angry Frat BROs]

^

Unless you're talking about the Orc read. I thought I'd already yelled at Nacho about 831 being a shitty reason to scumread Orc.

Nacho, you got a reason for scumreading Orc beyond Bauss's bullshit that he refuses to substantiate with facts?

[RadiantCowbells]

Frat Bros get mad when called dicks

but it's okay for them to call others retards and assholes

#logic

This has nothing at all to do with the game and only serves to piss people off.

The name's Rustle, Jimmy Rustle.

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

I do bite my thumb, sir.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Because I don't see how you'd agree with that line of reasoning given that he's repeatedly refused to back anything with data, and the fact that Bauss's deathtunneling in a way that betrays a lack of caring about alignments.

[yessiree]

yes we talking about bauss's rank read

[sangres]

^

Unless you're talking about the Orc read. I thought I'd already yelled at Nacho about 831 being a shitty reason to scumread Orc.

Nacho, you got a reason for scumreading Orc beyond Bauss's bullshit that he refuses to substantiate with facts?

Yeah, there's more basis to the read than Bauss' meta. Orcinus hasn't talked at all about the majority of what has gone on in the game. Nacho doesn't like his push on Sakura because it's pretty much baseless. Also, Orcinus is discrediting Bauss' case on him but doesn't really seem perturbed about it. Compare how BRO/you are visibly frustrated and freaked out about bauss tunneling him. Orc is like "show me the evidence, fuck you", but not really showing frustration beyond that.