Pokemon X/Y Thread

Brandi · Post Post #575 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:02 pm

Take a pokemon with sweet scent and one with a multi-hit move like surf and fight horde encounters, here is a list:
http://www.serebii.net/xy/hordes.shtml

Patrick · Post Post #576 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:10 pm

Tragedy wrote:Also, which pokemons are nice tanks with great Def/Sp.DEF?

Great physical bulk: Hippodown, Skarmory, Gliscor, Slowbro
Great special bulk: Blissey, Latias, Milotic

Many others too. If you were asking more about things that appear on the video game that are useful in those roles then I can't really help.

Cabd · Post Post #577 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:18 pm

In post 571, sirdanilot wrote:
In post 568, Cabd wrote:
In post 567, sirdanilot wrote:Oftentimes, you actually win because you have put yourself in a position that is practically unbeatable at that point
The TCG is like that too, yeah.
Except competitive pokemon battling is nothing like the TCG

I come from the world of VGC, not online play. Pay me no mind.

Brandi · Post Post #578 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:29 pm

oh Im sorry I misred your post cabd I thought you were asking which pokes are good to train for def EVs

Tragedy · Post Post #579 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:33 pm

In post 575, Brandi wrote:Take a pokemon with sweet scent and one with a multi-hit move like surf and fight horde encounters, here is a list:
http://www.serebii.net/xy/hordes.shtml

Well that's going to take a long while to level up from, then.

In post 576, Patrick wrote:
Tragedy wrote:Also, which pokemons are nice tanks with great Def/Sp.DEF?
Great physical bulk: Hippodown, Skarmory, Gliscor, Slowbro
Great special bulk: Blissey, Latias, Milotic

Many others too. If you were asking more about things that appear on the video game that are useful in those roles then I can't really help.

Would Mega Aggron be beneficial? What about Chesnaught?
Which Fairy Pokemons would you recommend that has good Def and/or Sp.Def?
Which Pokemon with nice Def/Sp.Def stats would benefit from Trick Room?

Psyche · Post Post #580 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:37 pm

In post 570, Brandi wrote:the taunter will die to Destiny Bond, and the taunter can't switch out because of shadow tag

Taunt can't stop Destiny Bond?

Brandi · Post Post #581 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:48 pm

In post 580, Psyche wrote:
In post 570, Brandi wrote:the taunter will die to Destiny Bond, and the taunter can't switch out because of shadow tag
Taunt can't stop Destiny Bond?

woops I confused it with torment! :p

animorpherv1 · Post Post #582 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:49 pm

In post 579, Tragedy wrote:Which Pokemon with nice Def/Sp.Def stats would benefit from Trick Room?

Reuniclus. Its defensive stats are kinda mediocre, but its got a pretty good HP stat and can set up Trick Room itself.

In regards to fairies with high defensive stats, my first thought is Togekiss.

Tragedy · Post Post #583 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:50 pm

In post 582, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 579, Tragedy wrote:Which Pokemon with nice Def/Sp.Def stats would benefit from Trick Room?
Reuniclus. Its defensive stats are kinda mediocre, but its got a pretty good HP stat and can set up Trick Room itself.

In regards to fairies with high defensive stats, my first thought is Togekiss.

If only getting a Togepi was easy... X3

Klazam · Post Post #584 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:20 pm

I've been doing decently well with this team in OU beta on pokemon showdown (Klazam):

Spoiler:

I'm sure that there's a few things i could improve- but I'm liking this play style for me.

Talonflame to lead- hits with taunt, then gets a free swords dance, before wrecking at least 1 pokemon.

Chestnaught is surprisingly evil- I've only used sub, seed, and shield. I think i might need a different fourth move, but I'm not sure which.

Greninja is a real nice revenge killer with protean and specs, and Dark pulse (with STAB!) hits everything pretty well already.

Blissey, meh, I don't really like it that much, and i want to change it to something else

Blast- Rapid spinner, and has decent mevo ability/moves

Aegislash is broken

So, suggestions for bliss slot? and any other comments

Espeonage · Post Post #585 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:24 pm

In post 576, Patrick wrote:
Tragedy wrote:Also, which pokemons are nice tanks with great Def/Sp.DEF?
Great physical bulk: Hippodown, Skarmory, Gliscor, Slowbro
Great special bulk: Blissey, Latias, Milotic

Many others too. If you were asking more about things that appear on the video game that are useful in those roles then I can't really help.

On this note: Hippowdon is better as a mixed wall with 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD with either defensive nature depending on what you want it to check.
Skarm can also go for a mixed tanking route to better make use of it's good typing.
Milotic should also be going physically defensive as it's ability really boosts it's potential.

Shuckle is actually very decent now with a set of Knock Off / Toxic / Infestation / Sticky Web and has immense defenses.
Mega Scizor is a brilliant physically defensive pivot.
Mega Venusaur is pretty good too.

EDIT: @ Klazam. an Impish Hippowdon with the above spread would be great for you. It gives you a hard counter to Aegislash and allows you to pivot around things and rack up passive damage. Also lets you come in on many Electrics, now with their weaker HP Ice, they have difficulty breaking hippo.

Klazam · Post Post #586 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:29 pm

I have a physical wall in Chestnaught already. Wouldn't that be rendunant?

DERP. LRN2READ

Ok, Im gonna try the hippo, then

Espeonage · Post Post #587 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:31 pm

Hippo is a mixed wall, and stacking is in no way a bad thing. Run +SpD/-SpA if you'd rather. It means that it can take stray mixed sets better.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #588 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:02 pm

Somebody needs to help me with my team because all I've done is lose since I won against Nati.

Spoiler: OU Beta Team

Mega Absol is the one thing that I want to keep.

Klazam · Post Post #589 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:08 pm

Taunt Talonflame is surprisingly good as a lead.

Klazam · Post Post #590 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:09 pm

Ani- I don't really know how to help- not enough personal experience

Natirasha · Post Post #591 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:11 pm

Seems really weak to Talonflame.

Bowser · Post Post #592 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:13 pm

Added Klazam, Esp, and MME. Add my friend code too, guys.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #593 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:14 pm

I should probably edit in what they do... Derp.

Cabd · Post Post #594 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:14 pm

Added everyone that's in the OP

Bowser · Post Post #595 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:41 pm

whoops forgot cabd. fixing in a minute.

Bowser · Post Post #596 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:02 pm

Cabd's safari contains Pumpkaboo and Shuppet. Third option still invisible.

Cabd · Post Post #597 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:09 pm

In post 596, Bowser wrote:Cabd's safari contains Pumpkaboo and Shuppet. Third option still invisible.

It shouldn't be? I have completed the game and then some.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #598 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:23 pm

In post 597, Cabd wrote:
In post 596, Bowser wrote:Cabd's safari contains Pumpkaboo and Shuppet. Third option still invisible.
It shouldn't be? I have completed the game and then some.

You have to be online when he is.

Brandi · Post Post #599 (ISO) » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:24 pm

Ani, I would suggest changing the nature of your Aegislash to Brave, Relaxed or Sassy. The point of the 0 speed investment is to have as little speed as possible, therefore if you are going for more power Brave is the best as it reduces your speed further. Relaxed and Sassy are if you want to have more staying power.
An Adamant Aegislash is fine if you aren't going the 0 speed route.

This is what I've been told is currently the most used/successful set, posted by a user on smogon, here is the description for it, since I can't put it into my own words as eloquently-

Brave Fencer Aegislash

Item: Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
Shadow Sneak
Sacred Sword/Iron Head
King's Shield
Swords Dance

Aegislash's unique typing and amazing bulk allows it to switch into many situations. From there it can threaten physical attackers with King's Shield. If their Attack is dropped, Aegislash is able to use Swords Dance without repercussion. Due to his bulk, he is able to set up on many Pokemon who lack strong moves to threaten him. With +2 attack, Aegislash is able 2HKO many pokemon with a combination of Sacred Sword followed by Shadow Sneak. Due to his low speed, Aegislash will first take damage in his bulky shield forme, before transforming into blade forme to deal out incredibly strong Sacred Swords. In Blade Forme, Aegislash is incredibly frail. King's Shield can be used change back into shield forme, however this can be incredibly predictable and can allow you opponent to set up something, such as a substitute. Aegislash is not a typical sweeper. To utilize Aegislash you must often revert back to Shield forme to absorb hits and retaliate, unlike typical sweepers which usually kill or are killed. In essence, Aegislash fights like a fencer, hence the set's name.
Iron Head is stronger on neutral Pokemon, but you lose out on having perfect coverage, which may end with Aegislash being countered by pokemon such as Pyroar, Heliolisk and Bisharp.

Also Aegislash is possibly going to be Uber soon. <_<